IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2018-11-07

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DocScrutinizer05anasko aka wikiwide aka oksana should know to stay in channel to get answers01:53
DocScrutinizer05xchat saves settings on quit. Aborting it e.g. by device shutdown won't do01:53
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WikiwideTest02:12
* Oksana nods, and reads logs; and connects N900 to WiFi, which incidentally requires updating password on N900 - just had to change password yesterday, it cannot stay the same for longer than 6 months02:12
OksanaWhatever was tricky with telepathy-idle, resolved itself by itself. Not sure whether db->sql->db clean up (with attempt at vacuum) helped or not02:13
OksanaAnd X-Chat could be a good front-end (instead of rtcom-messaging-ui) for both telepathy-idle and SMS, since it probably requires less RAM to handle long back-log/back-scroll. But that would require heavy hildon-isation of x-chat.02:15
OksanaWhat is responsible for writing messages/IM/SMS into el-v1.db ? rtcom-messaging-ui depends on librtcom-eventlogger-plugins102:19
OksanaWhich means that to reduce weight of el-v1.db, it may be possible to replace librtcom-eventlogger-plugins with something else. But that would require good understanding of how that is connected with librtcom-eventlogger-ui (doesn't need changing), or what is librtcom-eventlogger-async.02:24
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OksanaAt least, rtcom-eventlogger is free, as in, open-source.02:32
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OksanaWhich doesn't make it any less troublesome to invent a way to: 1) split on-demand large-ancient database in day-to-day databases [time zones and summer-day-time are especially troublesome]; 2) unite sets of messages from different databases into large day-to-day life-log; 3) get logger to log02:36
Oksanaday-by-day; 4) get back-scroll to paginate between different days, instead of getting longer and longer and longer with each scroll.02:38
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Is it technically possible to make an SDIO card with an AM (medium wave inclusive-or short wave) radio receiver that can be used to add an AM radio receiver feature to a smartphone with an internal SD card reader/writer?  Or using a similar technique if not using SDIO?  If yes, can all of the required hardware fit on a microSD card or only on a full-size SD card?  Apparently SD cards with an integrated Wireless LAN controller were already08:45
brolin_empeycommercially available in 2014 or earlier but I do not know if such cards are only full-size, not Mini SD nor smaller.08:45
OksanaFull-size, most likely, but I don't remember. microSDIO cards would have needed an external antenna, at the very least08:52
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brolin_empeyIs the maximum output power of a (household, countertop) microwave oven usually around 300 W less than the input power?  My LG from 2000 at home is 1050 W in, maximum 700 W out;  the Sanyo from 1994 at my office is 900 W in, maximum 600 W out.  We had a 700 W maximum output Sanyo from 1990 but I do not remember what the input power rating was.09:09
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brolin_empeyOn the subject of strange marketing: I am reading https://www.logmein.com/ and wondering what benefit the advertised services provide over simply using SSH or RDP over a Hamachi Virtual LAN.09:22
brolin_empeyMy impression is that the advertised services are redundant because RDP over a virtual LAN already provides the same benefits.09:24
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brolin_empey“We Unlock the Potential of the Modern Workforce”09:28
brolin_empeyDoes the modern workforce need a notebook computer if a handheld computer can run the same software as a notebook computer or remotely control a stationary computer for software that cannot run on a handheld computer?09:28
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brolin_empeyIs the HTC Dream still useful in 2018?  It was released slightly over a decade ago so I guess it is cheap by now.09:45
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brolin_empeyRogers Wireless released the Dream in Canada so I guess the cellular data connectivity on the Dream in Canada is fast enough to be usable, unlike the N900 in Canada.09:51
brolin_empeyApparently the Dream has only 192 MiB of main memory, though, which is even worse than the N900.09:53
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brolin_empeyThe HTC myTouch 4G Slide seems to have better hardware specifications than the HTC Desire Z, which seems to have better hardware specifications than the HTC Dream.10:08
brolin_empeyApparently the myTouch 4G Slide can unofficially run up to Android OS 4.4 (CyanogenMod 11), which usually still suffices in 2018 for my use case.  It has no integrated LTE connectivity but HSPA is probably already fast enough.10:12
brolin_empeyI think I value an integrated hardware keyboard and easily removable battery more than LTE connectivity and an AMOLED display.  I love the AMOLED display on the Galaxy Note 3 but the AMLCD on the LG G5 seems nice too.10:14
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DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: theoretically you could get a AM radio on uSD, with external antenna.  || microwave ovens are labeled by useful outout, input is up to twice that14:09
DocScrutinizer05you lost me on >>advertised services provide over simply using SSH or RDP over a Hamachi Virtual LAN<<14:14
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: You mean using microSDIO?21:50
DocScrutinizer05prolly21:50
DocScrutinizer05it doesn't matter since afaik such thing doesn't exist21:51
DocScrutinizer05I only know of mini or normal size formfactor SD/MMC cards with WLAN21:52
DocScrutinizer05among other stuff. IIRC HDD exist too21:52
DocScrutinizer05with a drive size of a coin21:53
siceloreminds me of the one in Nokia N9121:55
DocScrutinizer05ooh, GPS and 3G MMC cards too, with antenna "limb"22:17
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