IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2018-09-10

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WikiwideHow do I set up laptop to connect to my N900's Qt Mobile Hotspot?02:37
WikiwideIs it inet dhcp or inet static?02:37
WikiwideBecause with dhcp, I get "No DHCPOFFERS received".02:37
WikiwideAnd with static, I get "RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address"02:38
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Wikiwide~wifi hotspot05:05
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WikiwideWhen I start Qt Mobile Hotspot, I see under wlan0 in ifconfig. However, "ping" on Nokia N900 doesn't see it, 100% packet loss.05:35
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WikiwideMicroB gives 403, and Fennec is so slow that I don't know yet whether it works or not. And I haven't got laptop to connect to N900 hotspot yet.07:05
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WikiwideExcuse me... MicroB, I have asked you repeatedly to get out of full screen. What has got you so busy that you do not respond?07:37
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WikiwideJust why did HAM get a brilliant idea to offer "upgrades" for 5 packages from version X to version X?07:55
WikiwideHAM slows everything down. So, closed.07:57
KotCzarnyyou know your poor n900 has only 256M of ram?07:57
KotCzarnyof which usually you have 5-20MB free tops?07:57
KotCzarnywhich means having multiple programs open isnt recommended?07:58
WikiwideOi, only 5-20MB free usually? It must be swapping like mad then.07:58
KotCzarnyopen terminal and check with iostat -k 107:58
KotCzarnyor just: free07:58
WikiwideBecause el-v1.db is huge here. And tracker has thousands of files to track.07:58
KotCzarnydont use tracker and switch to directory based player?07:59
WikiwideWhy? On the opposite, I want a ebook reader which uses tracker to display a bookshelf with epub/pdf/djvu files.08:00
KotCzarny(i should make my oscv more touch friendly and compile for n900 one day)08:00
KotCzarnyfor now just check with 'top' and shift-m what are biggest memory eaters right now08:01
WikiwideI should also figure out a way for emails to be stored on MyDocs, instead of /home. Or find out a way to cull useless emails from my 3GB GMail.08:01
WikiwideBrowserd for browser, Xorg, browserd for Conversations, browser, modest take up 50% of memory usage altogether.08:03
WikiwideWhere do I find "debian" packages older than wheezy? Backports or something? Glabels, for example?08:04
KotCzarnythere is or something08:04
WikiwideThank you for shift+m, didn't know that about top :-)08:04
KotCzarnyjust google for: mc lenny08:04
KotCzarnyit should find where old repos are08:05
KotCzarnyyeah, and shift-p for cpu usage08:05
KotCzarnyand on multi-cpu systems pressing '1' will show cpu usage per core08:06
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WikiwideArm architecture is not accepted by dpkg, see ; and the versions with armel architecture require libc6 2.6 or 2.7, whereas maemo 5 fremantle has libc6 2.5.08:30
buZzyou could run devuan or debian08:34
buZzjust ignore all the maemo stuff :)08:34
WikiwideRun devuan or debian on Nokia N900?08:35
buZzor postmarketos08:35
buZzi guess i'm preaching blasphemy here ;)08:35
WikiwideAbout as likely as me running Maemo Leste on my N900. It's my everyday device.08:35
buZzah yeah, i dont need phonecalls or a sim for everyday devices08:36
buZzbut i guess that could get hard08:36
buZzpostmarketos might have something for it though08:37
buZzseems none do calls , from
buZzbut 2G works :)08:38
WikiwideI like Maemo 5 Fremantle, thank you very much. Just wish it was upgraded - I guess that's what Leste is about.08:38
Wikiwide2G is non-existent in Australia, literally.08:38
buZzah sad08:38
buZzyou could perhaps softmodem over a voice line? :)08:38
KotCzarnyWikiwide: you need armel08:40
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KotCzarnyand etch/lenny08:42
KotCzarnyotherwise you need to rebuild08:43
KotCzarnywhich might work08:43
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WikiwideGlabels depends on dpkg? Sounds like badly managed dependencies.08:56
KotCzarnysafer is to run it from de*an chroot08:57
WikiwideLibebook-1.2-13, version 3.4.3, sounds like a strange approach t9 versioning.09:02
WikiwideLibgdk-pixbuf is not in Maemo repositories.09:02
WikiwideAnd, it's going to be painful: glabels depends on Gtk309:02
KotCzarnywhat about chroot way?09:03
WikiwideOther than that, I would like something more plug-in oriented. Not everybody using glabels needs qrcode.09:03
WikiwideKotCzarny : how does chroot work? Never used it before.09:04
KotCzarnyusing debian chroot means you arent messing the original system09:04
WikiwideThat's good, but... How do I install chroot?09:04
WikiwideHow much space does it require?09:05
KotCzarnydont know if it still works09:05
KotCzarnyor if there is something newer09:05
KotCzarnyalso it seems to be for n8x009:05
KotCzarnythere was one for fremantle too i think09:05
KotCzarnymaybe it's for both, hmm, later in the text fremantle is also mentioned09:06
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KotCzarnyjust read whole page then09:06
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WikiwideList of dependencies is insane
KotCzarnythat's what you get for using gnome09:18
brolin_empeyI used Easy Debian on fremantle.  I never used any earlier version of Maemo because I wanted integrated cellular telephony + SMS capability.09:18
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