IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2018-08-27

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brolin_empeyHurrian_: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-G41MT-S2PT-rev-11#sp Any chance of having more than 8 GiB total main memory with this model of Socket T motherboard?  It uses G41 with two DDR3 DIMM sockets instead of Q35 with four DDR2 DIMM sockets like on the Asus motherboard I currently use.  I found this Gigabyte motherboard for sale on eBay while seeking a Socket T motherboard with all solid capacitors that I can still buy because at my office we now02:04
brolin_empeyhave Yet Another Asus P5E-VM DO motherboard that has partially failed due to at least one bulging electrolytic capacitor.02:04
brolin_empeyHurrian_: I should check if I can still buy an LGA1366 motherboard with all solid capacitors.02:06
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Hurrian_brolin_empey: you need to find memory that uses at most 128Mbit x 8 chips, DDR3 was really finicky on those old chipsets02:19
Hurrian_also, most single-socket LGA1366 boards did come with all-solid caps - it's an overclocking focused socket, and companies loved advertising that you paid a premium for it on the box02:21
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brolin_empeyHurrian_: OK.02:30
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Hurrian_If you can get your hands on a dual socket LGA1366 with all-solid caps, or at least have brown (Nichicon) electrolytics, you can load them up with a ridiculous amount of DDR3 ECC RAM and use them for a loooooooooong time.02:32
Hurrian_I've got 18x 16GB DDR3 ECC since I got it cheap about a year ago on ebay - looks like companies were dumping old servers en masse02:34
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brolin_empeyHurrian_: I have already been using Socket T motherboards for close to a decade by now but the Asus motherboards keep having electrolytic capacitors fail.  My Dell Socket T motherboard is still reliable after almost a decade, though.08:35
brolin_empeyHurrian_: I do not know if the answer was implied by your previous answer but is there any chance of using more than 8 GiB of main memory with that Gigabyte Socket T motherboard I found?  I guess I should finally upgrade to LGA1366 or later + DDR3 or later if the cost is low by now.  I have not recently checked offers.08:39
brolin_empeyOn a smartphone with an FM radio receiver that uses the headphones cord as an antenna, can a cord with 3.5-mm TRS plugs on both ends used to connect the smartphone to loudspeakers be used instead of corded headphones for the antenna?08:48
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brolin_empeyI would test it myself but I think the N900 is the only handheld computer with an integrated FM radio receiver that I have;  trying to use the N900 is an exercise in frustration and patience.08:50
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sparreI think it could.09:37
sparreI may have such a cord (and some loose loudspeakers) at home.  I'll take a look and give it a try, if I can find the bits.09:38
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brolin_empeysparre: OK, thank you.  I do not need to know but I was curious.09:58
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Hurrian_brolin_empey: if you have an 8GB DIMM made of 128Mx8 modules, it may be possible12:10
Hurrian_they are typically large unlike the small packages used for later DIMMs12:10
Hurrian_but I'm not sure if 8GB DIMMs were ever made with those old 128x8 dram modules12:11
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brolin_empeyHurrian_: OK.  I guess that I should finally upgrade to LGA1366 or later if I will finally upgrade to DDR3 or later.12:53
brolin_empeyHurrian_: Where are you geographically?  In Europe?12:54
Hurrian_brolin_empey: I'm in the Philippines. I get my ebay crap shipped to a relative in the USA and pick it up when I drop by there12:55
brolin_empeyHurrian_: OK, so you are close to Taiwan, where most of the x86 motherboard companies are.12:58
Hurrian_yeah, but hardware prices are amazingly expensive in Taiwan, went there December last year12:59
Hurrian_it's utterly ridiculous, I can get the average board shipped from the US to my house in the Philippines using DHL cheaper than if I walk into a store in Taipei12:59
brolin_empeyAt one point Nokia had some of their customer service agents in the Philippines, in 2010 I think.13:02
Hurrian_yep, it's a business process outsourcing (esp. contact center) hotbed right now, lots of foreign investment coming in that way, but that industry will be utterly brutalized if Google Duplex-style AI really takes off13:04
brolin_empeyHurrian_: Are you from the Philippines?13:12
Hurrian_Yep.13:12
* brolin_empey has to look up Google Duplex.13:13
brolin_empeyApparently I cannot use Google Assistant thanks to Samsung disabling the in-place upgrade function of my Android OS 4.4 installation because I have “modified” my Galaxy Note 3, so I am stuck with Android OS 4.4 .  I never really used these virtual assistants on my own computer, though, because they seem like a gimmick that I do not need.13:24
Hurrian_brolin_empey: assuming you're willing to modify your device, and you have a Snapdragon model Note 3, it's pretty well supported by LineageOS13:26
Hurrian_you can update to the very newest version of Android, performance will probably be about the same or faster than Samsung's garbage flavor of Android13:26
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brolin_empeyHurrian_: I used to use CyanogenMod 11, based on Android OS 4.4, but my CyanogenMod installation broke by itself when it tried installing months of application updates at once so I reverted to my backup of the Android OS 4.4 installation from Samsung from before I installed CyanogenMod.  Almost everything I have wanted to use on Android still works with 4.4 .  termux is one of the few exceptions but I wanted it so I could run CPython on Android.  I found a13:31
brolin_empeydifferent application to run CPython on Android OS 4.4 but this application broke on its own too.13:31
brolin_empeyThat does not matter, though, because I wanted CPython to use as a calculator but I can use Mathdroid for that purpose.13:33
brolin_empeyIt is 03:33 here, I should be asleep but my sleep-wake pattern is broken Yet Again, sigh.13:34
brolin_empeyAnyway, yes, I have a Snapdragon-based Galaxy Note 3.  I disagree that the Android OS from Samsung is garbage although I do dislike some practices of Samsung involving the Android OS.13:36
brolin_empeyI want something like the Galaxy Note 3 but with the integrated hardware keyboard of the Nokia C6-00.13:38
Hurrian_yeah, Samsung's theming of Android back in those versions was ridiculous13:40
Hurrian_it was some sort of blue-green everywhere13:40
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KotCzarnyoh fun, elinux.org wiki is broken16:38
KotCzarny MediaWiki 1.31 requires at least PHP version 7.0.0 or HHVM version 3.18.5, you are using PHP 5.6.37.16:38
KotCzarny;)16:38
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bencoh:(17:34
bencohI wonder who maintains it :/17:35
Wizzuppresumably they updated to a newer mediawiki, so they will also update php17:35
bencohah :)17:35
bencohright, I thought it was the other way around17:35
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sicelocutenews (rss reader doesn't do https feed). anyone still has osso-rss-reader? does it do https?17:44
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bencohsicelo: I'd rather try fixing cutenews tbh18:04
bencohdo you get any error?18:04
siceloyou know, i've complained about https for ages on cutenews, but just now, i was able to add gitlab issues18:13
sicelo*shrug*18:13
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siceloi guess i should try other https feeds and do proper testing18:15
bencohsicelo: is it specific to cutenews, or a generic qt/ssl issue?18:17
DocScrutinizer05>>On a smartphone with an FM radio receiver that uses the headphones cord as an antenna, can a cord with 3.5-mm TRS plugs on both ends used to connect the smartphone to loudspeakers be used instead of corded headphones for the antenna?<< yes18:26
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sicelobencoh: i havd tried (in the past) a number of https feeds and all of them failed. in fact, i only have http feeds on my N900 as a result. but i never investigated further and just thought cutenews didn't support https by design. but now i see that perhaps there was something not right, either malformed feeds and/or TLS versions our qt doesn't support. so not a cutenews problem directly18:52
bencohI'd suppose so, yeah19:07
bencohHmm, I see you already asked about that 10months ago :/19:07
bencohI wonder if marxian still works on his apps19:08
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bencohhmm, wtf is there a "qhttpserver" in cutenews code19:09
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sixwheeledbeastTested if running on a desktop has same problems?19:59
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