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| Vajb | just for the hint. I've been wondering why my device has become sluggish and now i realised that I had logging enabled in pidgin and it had gathered around 200mb of logs. Deleted those and it seems to be solved. | 10:21 |
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| KotCzarny | you talk a lot | 10:22 |
| sicelo | :D | 10:26 |
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| Vajb | it's been awhile :p | 10:48 |
| Vajb | also i have few "noisy" groups | 10:49 |
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| sicelo | you log in html or txt? | 11:27 |
| Vajb | must be also that. Html | 11:47 |
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| sicelo | i wonder if meego 1.3 ce images for N900 are still available somewhere | 15:05 |
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| bencoh | I kinda remember trying it, probably download from nemomobie | 15:22 |
| bencoh | or from some mirror | 15:22 |
| bencoh | downloaded* nemomobile* | 15:23 |
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| sicelo | found them, | 15:32 |
| sicelo | repository.maemo.org in fact :) | 15:33 |
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| bencoh | hm, indeed | 15:45 |
| bencoh | although I couldn't find 1.3 there | 15:45 |
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| Kabouik_ | Seems proxy.sh IPs are getting banned by TMO. Is that final? I'm not a spambot. | 21:56 |
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| KotCzarny | but others using them are | 21:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik_: it's a RBL thing that sucks BIG TIME in tmo, like "WHY THE HECK do you böock *READING*???" | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any spambot can't do shit to tmo unless going rhrough registration/login page which should be the ONLy ONE page with RBL control | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I might discuss if "search" should get protected to, for the computational overhead it triggers | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | too* | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | you are wrong | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | registeration can be done from random ip | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | but reading should be allowed | 22:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but as skilled and savvy as our sysops and admins usually are, they seem to fail epically on this particular topic | 22:46 |
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| sicelo | does the forum software have features for that? | 22:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | prrof for failure in administration: similar shite not seen anywhere else | 22:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: nfc, I'd bet it has, since it's nothing particularly special, it's a off-the-shelf BB software | 22:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | when a bazillion other fora can do it, why can't we? | 22:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: please come again, you arived totally garbled | 22:51 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I get the feeling from conversations I have had there is concern due to the old and mostly unknown software. So higher risk IP's are just blocked as there are limited resources for monitoring it regularly. | 22:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what is it? phpBB? | 22:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I think we should get an update | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8<< | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.vbulletin.com/ version5 now | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | around 250 bucks which maemo should be able to afford | 23:02 |
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| Kabouik_ | Thanks for the answers. Well it's sad, proxy.sh is a good VPN service and all VPN users are not spambots. I do understand that there is no better solution, but it's a bit like throwing the baby with the bathwater. | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the "OHNOES 10 bucks??? but we have devels that could do something better in less than 6 months" is a red herring | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | Kabouik_: btw.: | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | ~unbanip | 23:03 |
| infobot | methinks unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it | 23:03 |
| Kabouik_ | But it's a VPN, my IP will change every day, I suppose the whole block would need to be unbanned, which would defeat the point if spambots are on the same block | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal unbanip | 23:05 |
| infobot | "#maemo unbanip" is "please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it" | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | grab some paid vpn/proxy? | 23:05 |
| Kabouik_ | It's paid | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | public ones are prone to abuse | 23:05 |
| Kabouik_ | Which is why I'm a bit sad about this massive ban. | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it's still too cheap for some spammers | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo unbanip is also tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam | 23:05 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 23:05 |
| Kabouik_ | Yeah probably but then I'm not going to go for the expensive ones just because they are not attractive | 23:06 |
| KotCzarny | why not just connect direct/ | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why not fix this bullshit? | 23:06 |
| Kabouik_ | I'm living abroad and use IPs in my home country to watch georestricted stuff | 23:07 |
| KotCzarny | maemo sites shouldnt be georestricted | 23:08 |
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| Kabouik_ | No Maemo isn't but I have only one IP at a time | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo sites are doing evil, relying on RBL for blocking *reading* | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no sane rationale for that | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | using a VPN is recommended best practice for privacy | 23:09 |
| Kabouik_ | Reading would be an improvement DocScrutinizer05, but in fact I would be frustrated too if I couldn't post. But again, I'm not complaining, I did witness these spambots on TMO and that was bad. But it's really frustrating that there's no more selective solution in place. Wouldn't it be possible to have a recaptcha at registration? Is recaptcha already outdated? | 23:09 |
| KotCzarny | Kabouik_: still, if the ips are still in some tight range, it might be worth a try to try and unban them | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Kabouik_: no idea | 23:10 |
| Kabouik_ | I have no idea, I'll send my IP to chem|st just in case | 23:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | even IFF you encounter "DoS" from massive reading via VPN, you handle that by a time limited fail2ban entry | 23:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | again, I don't see similar complaints about similar practices on any other arbitrary fora | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hell, PrivateInternetAccess sponsors Neo900, yet PIA IPs are blocked on tmo | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which makes me ponmder that I can't keep Neo900 affiliation to maemo | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how does that smell, to recommend using PIA on tmo, and when you do you can't use tmo anymore | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >:-( | 23:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but alas chem|st doesn't see *any* problem in all this, and doesn't even want to consider how to solve the issue | 23:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvlues tmo rbl | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues tmo rbl | 23:20 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'tmo rbl' by value returned no results. | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues tmo*rbl | 23:21 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'tmo*rbl' by value (1): #maemo unbanip. | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~unbanip | 23:21 |
| infobot | rumour has it, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it, or tags: RBL, tmo IP blocked, spam | 23:21 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 already pondered to set up an open proxy that forwards to tmo exclusively, on neo900.org | 23:23 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but then... WAAAAAAHGRRRRRR! | 23:24 |
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