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| Oksana | Is it possible to somehow have several el-v1.db databases, separated by time or type or sender/receiver of messages? Like, world map isn't stored in one gigantic image - it's stored in tiles. Then, as user reads messages (or searches through them), RAM usage increases, but the granularity of the | 05:10 |
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| Oksana | "many files database" still prevents the massive slow down. | 05:11 |
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| mike727 | In Melbourne AU, there is a E90 for sale | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pkthis would be possible but is not supported by any of the processes using el-v1 | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: ^^^ | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: you could rename the existing db and a backup db, then kill all the processes that use them and they 'magically' jump to the 'new' db | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | need kill -9 | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated fun, that's how I waste my time when I get silly: http://tinyurl.com/y6v89djd | 08:03 |
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| Sarah2009 | Hello all :) | 20:22 |
| KotCzarny | hi | 20:22 |
| Sarah2009 | i am new to linux i have a small question i want to install a programm called woeusb but somehow it is not accepting my command into the terminal can you help me? | 20:22 |
| Sarah2009 | this is what i type in "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8" | 20:23 |
| KotCzarny | keep in mind maemo's apt is from 2010 | 20:24 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it didnt knew about ppa and friends by then | 20:24 |
| KotCzarny | pastebin the error ? | 20:24 |
| Sarah2009 | i use endless os | 20:24 |
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| KotCzarny | never heard of it | 20:25 |
| Sarah2009 | i did type this code just now "git clone https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB.git" | 20:26 |
| Sarah2009 | and it said done | 20:26 |
| Sarah2009 | how can i open the cloned thing now | 20:26 |
| KotCzarny | cd WoeUSB ? | 20:26 |
| KotCzarny | if you are having troubles with getting areound in command line, try installing mc (midnight commander) | 20:27 |
| KotCzarny | should ease looking what and whre | 20:27 |
| Sarah2009 | i did type in cd WoeUSB | 20:27 |
| Sarah2009 | now it says "WoeUSB$" | 20:28 |
| Sarah2009 | but the programm didnt start yet | 20:28 |
| Sarah2009 | do you know how i open it? | 20:28 |
| KotCzarny | you hjave probably just cloned source | 20:28 |
| KotCzarny | look for readme or install text files | 20:29 |
| warfare | Sarah2009: Instructions are on https://github.com/slacka/WoeUSB (starting at "Build from Source") | 20:30 |
| Sarah2009 | i am new to linux i don't know which command i need to type in to install it | 20:31 |
| Sarah2009 | i do not know if i need debian based | 20:31 |
| Sarah2009 | #fedora | 20:31 |
| Sarah2009 | or fedora | 20:31 |
| Sarah2009 | so confusing | 20:34 |
| KotCzarny | read the install instructions | 20:35 |
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| Sarah2009 | i tried : "sudo dnf install wxGTK3-devel" didnt work | 20:38 |
| Sarah2009 | sudo dnf install wxGTK-devel dh-autoreconf.noarch | 20:39 |
| Sarah2009 | also didnt work | 20:39 |
| Sarah2009 | sudo apt-get install devscripts equivs gdebi-core this one did an error | 20:39 |
| Sarah2009 | cd <WoeUSB source code directory> what is the source code directory? | 20:40 |
| Sarah2009 | so confusing | 20:40 |
| KotCzarny | apt-get install boolstuff ? | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | or not, hmm, dont know which package has dnf | 20:42 |
| Sarah2009 | is there no other way to install it? | 20:45 |
| Sarah2009 | like on windows it is just double click on a setupd file :P | 20:46 |
| Sarah2009 | so nobody knows how to install this on my computer? | 20:49 |
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| KotCzarny | did you do apt-get install and mk-build-deps steps from install instruction? | 20:54 |
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| Sarah2009 | tell me what i need to write in | 20:57 |
| Sarah2009 | so i can copy paste | 20:57 |
| Sarah2009 | i am a real noob sorry | 20:57 |
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| KotCzarny | see the paragraph after: Install WoeUSB's Build Dependencies | 20:58 |
| KotCzarny | dont know what your os is based on, i guess debian | 20:58 |
| KotCzarny | try: sudo apt-get install devscripts equivs gdebi-core | 20:58 |
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| Sarah2009 | my os is endless os | 22:06 |
| Sarah2009 | can you google it? | 22:06 |
| Sarah2009 | it says | 22:06 |
| Sarah2009 | devscripts cannot be found | 22:06 |
| Sarah2009 | equivs cannot be found | 22:06 |
| Sarah2009 | gdebi-core cannot be found | 22:06 |
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| Sarah2009 | https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhVQJzMOZpHN | 22:55 |
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| Sarah2009 | anyone can help? | 23:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sarah2009: maybe #endless ? | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure how this is related to maemo and Nokia NIT devices | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | The operating system that comes with everything your family needs | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | apparently they skipped development | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | ergo: in eyes of endlessos - family doesnt need development | 23:18 |
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| KotCzarny | they dont even provide gcc? | 23:20 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 23:20 |
| KotCzarny | https://support.endlessm.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002546631-How-can-I-add-tools-like-GCC-on-EOS- | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they don't even provide a hint which hw platform they are aiming at | 23:21 |
| KotCzarny | https://support.endlessm.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004795106-Is-Endless-OS-based-on-Debian- | 23:21 |
| KotCzarny | they do | 23:21 |
| KotCzarny | similar answer as 'is maemo based on debian' | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well maybe in the fineprint but evidently not on their friggin frontpage that maxed out my 400Mb link for 10s to download... rubbish not shown on the page | 23:22 |
| KotCzarny | install noscript extension | 23:22 |
| KotCzarny | trims most of the trash away | 23:22 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 googles "noscript for konqueror" | 23:23 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway looks like the umpteenth linux flavor made for users who can't decide which apps and wallpaper to install | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just meh | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe all that stuff helps teach people there's mor than just 2 OS out there, but in the end you want one of the big penguin five, no? | 23:26 |
| KotCzarny | oh wow, they even sell hardware with their os preloaded | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now THAT is what they make money from | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I already wondered | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, since every PIC embedded in a leaf of toilet paper has to come with own OS nowadays, if only the wallpaper and name changed | 23:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | would be too fishy to sell devices with plain mainstram GNU/linux installed | 23:28 |
| KotCzarny | 1.58GHz Intel Celeron N2807, 2GB DDR3L 1,333MHz | 23:29 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see Purism | 23:29 |
| Sarah2009 | so anyone knows how to do it? xD | 23:30 |
| KotCzarny | Sarah2009: yeah, install ubuntu | 23:30 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:30 |
| TheKit | DocScrutinizer05, what about Purism? | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please /join #endless | 23:30 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: you do release they don't just sell hardware? :-) | 23:30 |
| KotCzarny | Sarah2009: another way would be running that ubuntu under windows in virtualbox | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems purism needs to roll their own OS | 23:31 |
| bencoh | they sell a phone, as a complete solution | 23:31 |
| bencoh | meaning they need to ensure proper integration is done | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if only they had a clue | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what they consider integration is just branding in my book | 23:32 |
| TheKit | if you mean laptops, maybe, but pure Debian is pretty useless on phones/mobile devices | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *I* know that | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-D | 23:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:34 |
| bencoh | hahaha :-) | 23:34 |
| bencoh | honestly, as long as they eventually manage to produce/sell a real, working, modern smartphone with full opensource support, I don't mind the branding :) | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just you can get that already, basically they are not much more opensource than arbitrary android devices | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and well, nobody could | 23:36 |
| bencoh | what they're trying to achieve here is really supposed to have full opensource support | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't have OS on radio stack | 23:36 |
| bencoh | ah, right, sorry, except for baseband ;) | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and iirc they fail to provide OS drivers for their WLAN either, also no crime since it's getting hard these days | 23:37 |
| bencoh | tbh they had me worried with the "imx6 or imx8" thing (first because it would add a significant dev/prod delay, second because I've worked with the imx* family and imx6 is getting old, and not exactly power efficient) | 23:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but all this isn't an achievement basically | 23:37 |
| bencoh | but looks like they're doing rather fine thus far | 23:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmm | 23:38 |
| bencoh | platform/dev-wise at least | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not so sure about that | 23:38 |
| bencoh | (I haven't looked much further recently, apart from "working on imx8 integration, things look good") | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | i.MX8 is a monster, you want i,MX8M-mini | 23:39 |
| bencoh | I'm a bit jealous, freescale have been trying to push imx8 to us ($job), but the higher-ups have refused even to try it thus far | 23:39 |
| bencoh | (for roughly a year) | 23:39 |
| bencoh | hmm, it's a monster for tiny embedded devices, not so much for a modern smartphone with 3000~6000mAh | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even then | 23:40 |
| bencoh | imx8m, that is | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | needs heatsink I heard | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and fan | 23:40 |
| bencoh | imx8x (your "mini") isn't out yet, so ... not an option | 23:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I know | 23:41 |
| bencoh | a *fan*? wtf :D | 23:41 |
| bencoh | reminds me of omap5 :] | 23:41 |
| bencoh | (was it omap5 that needed a fan for its dev board?) | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't know | 23:41 |
| KotCzarny | smartphone with a heatsink and a fan. add some blinking leds and neon tubes while you are there | 23:41 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what really freaks me out about purism is their hw switch and how they market that as a huge engineering achievement, comletely ignoring the usability and security(gain) aspects of such simplistic approach | 23:43 |
| bencoh | pretty sure they'll end up with throttling it | 23:43 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: pretty sure it's just a marketing thing | 23:43 |
| bencoh | they're trying to sell the device as a secure, privacy-oriented phone | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while actually it is just a lightswitch to cure issues with hypersensitivity to light. Off and you got no phone, on and you got all the problems that piled up, in one rush | 23:44 |
| bencoh | so to make people acknowledge that, you sell them a kill switch | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I call that cheating | 23:45 |
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| KotCzarny | i call that marketing | 23:45 |
| bencoh | because then, when it's off, it's really off (or so people think), unlike software (where you have no way of checking it) | 23:45 |
| KotCzarny | (might be same thing) | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, purism has excellent marketing | 23:45 |
| bencoh | I would call that cheating, if they really had no way of shutting it down :) | 23:46 |
| bencoh | (be it software or hardware) | 23:46 |
| bencoh | meanwhile, they're just overselling it | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a reansistor and LED would do a better job already, *really* | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | transistor | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | instead of a silly hw switch with no feedback | 23:46 |
| bencoh | I know, but that wouldn't sell as well | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly | 23:47 |
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| bencoh | they probably still have the gpio-driven transistor I guess (or at least I hope) | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway folks I have to run, sorry | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 23:47 |
| bencoh | take care :-) | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ta | 23:47 |
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