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| duncan^ | No need for any of those when we have bitlbee >:) | 00:56 | 
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| sicelo | i've left whatsapp again (and happy) ... samsung phone fell down and screen broke. i won't be repairing it as it already has an IMEI issue as well .. so not worth | 14:59 | 
| KotCzarny | :) | 15:00 | 
| KotCzarny | sell samsung for parts and buy more n900 devices? | 15:00 | 
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| sicelo | yeah, that's'd be great. actually if this side of the world i could find somoene with a working N900, I could buy it from them right away | 15:04 | 
| * sicelo checks himself .. speaking like a fanboy | 15:05 | |
| KotCzarny | want me to deal few for you? | 15:05 | 
| sicelo | sounds tempting, but i still have the two challenges 1) shipping, 2) sending money to EU | 15:08 | 
| KotCzarny | paypal? | 15:08 | 
| sicelo | needs credit card, which needs rich guys here :p | 15:09 | 
| KotCzarny | got any friends travelling to eu soon? | 15:09 | 
| sicelo | not that i know of at the momment, but could check | 15:11 | 
| sicelo | how much are they roughly? | 15:12 | 
| KotCzarny | random | 15:12 | 
| KotCzarny | depending on condition | 15:12 | 
| KotCzarny | could go from 20 to 60usd | 15:12 | 
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| sicelo | 60 would be near mint? | 15:13 | 
| KotCzarny | likely | 15:14 | 
| sicelo | good price | 15:16 | 
| sicelo | i should see if something could work out | 15:16 | 
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| mike727 | wow, only just figured out IM. I created 2 accounts (@xmpp.jp) & my 2 n900 work together well. I'm in awe, just like the 1st time I tried FMTX in my car, haha | 16:05 | 
| mike727 | is group chat possible? Would I need a plugin? | 16:11 | 
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| sicelo | hehe :) | 16:20 | 
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| sicelo | mmm, late news, but this sounds terrible, https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/27/google-confirms-blocking-google-apps-uncertified-android-devices-heres-deal/ | 16:28 | 
| KotCzarny | dont worry | 16:29 | 
| KotCzarny | it's a crack up on cheap chinese phone vendors | 16:29 | 
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| sicelo | and custom ROMs, seemingly | 16:31 | 
| KotCzarny | nope | 16:31 | 
| KotCzarny | users who know how to install custom rom will have a way to go through the activation | 16:32 | 
| KotCzarny | it's mostly hitting cheap unlicensed phones/tablets and their 'i know nothing about computers' userbase | 16:33 | 
| sicelo | we need Neo900 already :) | 16:34 | 
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| sicelo | mike727: N900's IM solution (telepathy) can connect to conference rooms, if that's what you were asking | 16:41 | 
| KotCzarny | can it create those rooms too? | 16:41 | 
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| sicelo | i doubt - never tried | 16:42 | 
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| mike727 | ok. I've been using Jabber (internal client) and now I'm trying Pidgin (app client), both using the @xmpp.jp address. I'm guessing Telepathy is not a client? | 16:52 | 
| sicelo | Conversations ... what you call Jabber (internal client) | 16:54 | 
| bencoh | telepathy is the framework | 16:54 | 
| mike727 | hehe okay, thanks :) | 16:55 | 
| mike727 | I was referring to 'group conversation' with my contacts. The n900 manual says some 'IM services' support group conversation, it seems Jabber is not one of them. | 17:07 | 
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| Vajb | okey two phonecalls two frozes of omp. I guess that might count as an issue. I was listening to music via bluetooth headset. Answered a call and after the call omp played few seconds and wont play i beat unless i restart it. Has anyone else had that? | 18:09 | 
| Vajb | play a beat* | 18:10 | 
| KotCzarny | maybe audio device reconfiguration error? | 18:10 | 
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| Vajb | no idea. About the cause | 18:12 | 
| Vajb | but happened twice in a week and there was atleas one reboot of a device inbetween | 18:12 | 
| Vajb | atleast+ | 18:13 | 
| Vajb | sigh, atleast* | 18:13 | 
| Vajb | in the other notes, I installed bluemaemo again. Gonna impress my schoolmates after easter with n900 and galaxy tab :) | 18:14 | 
| bencoh | duh, mike keeps disconnecting. group conversation on xmpp does work with Conversation | 18:18 | 
| bencoh | you just have to restart conversation after adding a xmpp account | 18:18 | 
| bencoh | adding/enabling | 18:18 | 
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| pkill9 | is there a way to show titles in desktop shortcuts? | 19:24 | 
| pkill9 | s/desktop/homescreen | 19:24 | 
| KotCzarny | edit icons by overlaying them with text? | 19:25 | 
| KotCzarny | imagemagick can automate it | 19:25 | 
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:25 | 
| pkill9 | i mean, show text underneatht hem | 19:25 | 
| pkill9 | i guess that could work also | 19:25 | 
| pkill9 | i'm surprised anyone can still use the n900 for graphical internet stuff | 19:25 | 
| pkill9 | way too slow for me, i;'ve resigned to using it just for phoen stuff + terminal stuff | 19:25 | 
| pkill9 | phone* | 19:26 | 
| KotCzarny | you need to slow down your life | 19:26 | 
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| pkill9 | hehe | 19:26 | 
| KotCzarny | ever used win95 on 386? | 19:26 | 
| pkill9 | actually it's also the gps | 19:27 | 
| pkill9 | mayb mine is just dead | 19:27 | 
| KotCzarny | win95 can run on 386dx, 20mhz | 19:27 | 
| KotCzarny | stop whining! | 19:27 | 
| KotCzarny | ;) | 19:27 | 
| KotCzarny | (4mb min, 8mb reccomended) | 19:28 | 
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| pkill9 | I'm not really talking about the software, but the connectivity hardware like wifi and gps | 19:37 | 
| pkill9 | nor the processing hardware e.g. ram and cpu | 19:38 | 
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| KotCzarny | wifi should work for a few years still | 19:38 | 
| pkill9 | aactually not the wifi, i find that fine, i mean the mobile internet e.g. 3G | 19:38 | 
| pkill9 | so really, just 3G and gps, lol | 19:39 | 
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| KotCzarny | same, still few years before they start obsoleting it | 19:39 | 
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| duncan^ | dillo is fine for reading news | 19:44 | 
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| sicelo | gps should work ... at least wfm - just be sure to have updated cerman packages | 20:13 | 
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| pkill9 | wfm? | 20:16 | 
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| sicelo | works for me :) | 20:42 | 
| pkill9 | ah | 20:46 | 
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| pkill9 | what's cerman? | 20:49 | 
| pkill9 | certificate manager? | 20:49 | 
| sicelo | sorry yes, meant 'certman' - certificate manager | 20:56 | 
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| Vajb | i felt so overwhelmed when i visited strange city and asked for a map :D | 22:49 | 
| Vajb | plus i got one and managed to find my destination | 22:50 | 
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