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| brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: Can the Openmoko GTA02 be powered from the USB port without a battery installed? I do not remember and do not care enough to try with one of the GTA02 I still have (but stopped using years ago). | 05:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 05:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc not | 05:57 |
| brolin_empey | OK, that is what I thought but, as I said, I do not remember. | 05:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well wait. with depleted battery for sure not. Without any battery, jury still out | 06:00 |
| brolin_empey | My work is now internetworked via FTTP using a Nokia box to convert from the optical fibre to Ethernet using copper wire. So now I use a Nokia product other than a USB power supply again. ;-) | 06:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea if PCF50633 needs to see a battery at VB and/or BATSNS to start up | 06:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also no idea if VSYS might get powered by that chip without battery, for sure it can't power the modem running directly from VB | 06:06 |
| brolin_empey | Does metropolitan Ethernet, as used in at least part of Russia (Moscow), use Ethernet over optical fibre? I keep forgetting that Ethernet can use optical fibre in addition to copper wire because I only ever knowingly use Ethernet over copper wire. | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea | 06:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway re GTA02 see http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | p.4 | 06:11 |
| brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: I still have at least four GTA02 collecting dust on my shelf at home, I can quickly try it instead of speculating. I know, I contradict myself but it seems like it should be quick to try. | 06:11 |
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| brolin_empey | Why did the GTA02 use a miniUSB connector instead of a microUSB connector? So that the USB connector can be through-hole mounted instead of only surface-mounted? I do not know how the USB connector on the GTA02 is mounted but the microUSB connector on at least the N900 is only surface-mounted. | 06:16 |
| brolin_empey | Or because microUSB was less popular/common in 2008 than it is now, assuming that it already existed in 2008? | 06:19 |
| brolin_empey | Anyway, the first GTA02 I tried seems to not power on when connected to a USB power supply but without a battery installed. | 06:22 |
| brolin_empey | Remember the Bad Old Days when a digital “cellular telephone” prevented the user from using the video console without a SIM installed? I think Nokia still did that as late as 2005 at least for Series 40. | 06:28 |
| brolin_empey | Apparently I do not have a GTA02 battery at home even though I have at least four GTA02 at home. I guess my friend has some GTA02 batteries, if he still has the Openmoko GTA02 stuff I gave him years ago. | 07:15 |
| brolin_empey | Why did Nokia make both the BL-5J and BL-4J batteries when they have close to the same capacity? | 07:23 |
| brolin_empey | I still have some Nokia BL-5J and maybe at least one BL-4J batteries but I do not remember if these batteries can be used for the GTA02? | 07:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | because microUSB was less popular/common in 2008 | 08:52 |
| KotCzarny | it's a pity they've abandoned miniusb | 08:53 |
| KotCzarny | it feels much sturdier than micro | 08:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~batteryfaq | 08:53 |
| infobot | i guess batteryfaq is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery_Questions_and_Answers | 08:53 |
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| pkill9_ | I too some photos and they show up in the photos app, but i can't find them in file manager or using `ls` in terminal, or when mounted on my pC, even after a restart | 12:47 |
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| sicelo | pkill9_: /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM ? | 12:52 |
| sicelo | or, cat /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs in case somehow yours is set for different paths | 12:54 |
| pkill9_ | ah found them, it saved them to my sd card | 12:55 |
| pkill9_ | specifically, the boot partition of my SD card, lol | 12:55 |
| sicelo | :P | 12:56 |
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| jon_y | ~emmc | 13:10 |
| infobot | emmc is, like, is http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2010/5/--FID--A0A22YHFSICNA/--LID--FiRe1275051276916/AE98ED9D_RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.CENTRAL-EUROPE_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin or see ~emmc2 | 13:10 |
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| mike727 | Putting the N900 back together, after successfully unblocking the slider-mechanism. Before putting the last 4 phillip screws on, it seems the screen part wants to pring back out. Is this strange? | 13:30 |
| mike727 | *spring | 13:31 |
| mike727 | ha, that lip goes under the keyboard (I had dissasembled it a few months back) | 13:41 |
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| mike727 | I used lots of "CO contact cleaner". There is now white blotches all around the edge of the screen (wonder if this is permanent) | 13:47 |
| mike727 | https://imghost.io/images/2018/02/21/21022018077.jpg | 13:58 |
| mike727 | could I have damaged the connector/ribbon? | 13:58 |
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| KotCzarny | more like something got between screen layers | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | you probably overdid the cleaning | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | use it as it is and look for new screen ;) | 14:13 |
| mike727 | live & learn :) | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | i've never cleaned my n900's screen since 2009 | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | and only changed screen protector once | 14:14 |
| Wizzup | I need to change my protector too... | 14:20 |
| Wizzup | it's in a pretty sorry state | 14:20 |
| Wizzup | did you just order one from ebay? | 14:21 |
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| KotCzarny | nah, i had some generic that i just cut down to approximate shape | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | ack | 14:21 |
| KotCzarny | hard part was keeping screen dustless during the procedure | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | even few tiny specks of dust look bad | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | winter is nice because there is less dust in the air overall | 14:22 |
| sy | top tip: do it in the bathroom and run a super hot shower so stream drags all the dust particles to the floor | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | or that | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | but humidity can have adverse effects on the procedure too | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | those glue-less protectors rely on clean contact between surfaces | 14:24 |
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| sy | yeah | 14:27 |
| sy | positive pressure works too | 14:27 |
| sy | put a brick on a bunch of air dusters and line up with the screen | 14:28 |
| sy | expensive though | 14:28 |
| sy | or pay to get it done in a vacuum | 14:28 |
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| sicelo | 14:21 < KotCzarny> nah, i had some generic that i just cut down to approximate shape | 18:41 |
| sicelo | ^ do you find that protectors for capacitive screns tends to be thicker than the ones for old resistives? | 18:42 |
| sicelo | my daily N900 is badly in need of a protector, but most shops i've been to have thick protectors | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | my protector is breaking down badly :) | 18:44 |
| Wizzup | the screen is hard to read at this point ;) | 18:44 |
| sicelo | same here :p | 18:46 |
| sicelo | well i can still read mine, but in the sun i have to find a nice angle | 18:46 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo: i've used the both i think. didnt notice any difference for n900 | 19:02 |
| KotCzarny | other than quality and longevity | 19:02 |
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| sicelo | mm, ok. interesting. i always though the thick oones would perhaps need more pressure to press on, thus reducing accuracy, or stressing the TS | 19:33 |
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| sicelo | my 3G is so bad .. so many typos :( | 19:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | what sy said: bathroom, shower. Humidity isn't a big problem I guess, you even use soap water to attach large sticky patches to windows | 20:24 |
| sy | my phone's waterproof anyway so *shrug* | 20:25 |
| sy | although I havent ever been able to apply one properly | 20:25 |
| sy | nor have i ever scratched a screen | 20:25 |
| sy | well, my nokia came secondhand but it's not a very prized posession, and my actual phone had gorilla 3 glass | 20:25 |
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