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| Max___ | Hello all, I am thinking about buying a Nokia N900. As Alternative I could buy a Sony Xperia X with Sailfish OS. But I like Maemo UI more. On the other side I read that Easy Debian will stop with Debian 8 in March 2018 and without modern browser I think a smartphone isn't so good. I saw the Meamo Leste project, too, what gives me hope... What would you suggest? Sailfish/Sony or the good old Nokia N900? Thanks, Max | 17:51 |
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| pkill9 | i have faith in Maemo-Leste, since i installed it and it ran, including wifi and browser and hildon | 17:54 |
| pkill9 | i can't recommend either way though | 17:55 |
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| Max___ | @pkill9 thank you very much for your suggestion... | 17:57 |
| pkill9 | well don't need to be passive-aggressive | 17:57 |
| Max___ | Also for me the election is very hard. Sailfish would be the more modern approach | 17:57 |
| pkill9 | well, when i say i don't recommend either way, i mean based only on what's available currently (ignoring that maemo-leste may be good replacmenet in the future), i wouldn't recommend n900, and i don't know anything about the other phone or Sailfish to give you recommendation on that. Also I don't know what you need in a smartphone other than it to have modern browser | 17:59 |
| pkill9 | personally i just avoid smartphones, nokia n900 is last one i got | 18:00 |
| pkill9 | i'll use it again if maemo-leste fulfills it's promises | 18:00 |
| pkill9 | smartphones just get out of date because of needlessly more and more bloated websites | 18:01 |
| pkill9 | and marketing tells you you need to get the new iphone because reasons | 18:01 |
| Max___ | For me the Nokia N900 or the Sailfish Sony phone would be my first smartphone :-) | 18:02 |
| Max___ | I don't think, that I will be a extensive user. But a little bit browsing in the internet and navigation would be cool.. | 18:03 |
| pkill9 | assuming that maemo-leste fulfills it's promises, i would definitely choose n900 | 18:03 |
| pkill9 | it's a phone that's hardware has stood the test of time | 18:04 |
| pkill9 | e.g. no major problems over time, decent battery life | 18:05 |
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| Max___ | yes, this is really right and impressive. | 18:05 |
| sicelo | (discounting modem & USB problems) | 18:05 |
| pkill9 | oh yeah, USB if you aren't careful | 18:05 |
| pkill9 | sicelo: what modem problems are there? | 18:06 |
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| sicelo | many N900 have modems that stopped working. no fix available. in Maemo, the message you get is "All Telephony Functions Disabled" | 18:07 |
| sicelo | at least the USB problem can be fixed/avoided. | 18:07 |
| sicelo | with modem, the only theory is that try no to press too hard on your keyboard, as that is what might be causing the modems to get 'loose' | 18:08 |
| pkill9 | hmm sony Xperia X isn't too expensive | 18:09 |
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| sicelo | but, i'd still choose N900 :) | 18:09 |
| Max___ | Ok, you are a little bit biased ;-) The Sony I could get for 180 € + 50 € for Sailfish. The Nokia would be 100 €. Perhaps I should give the Nokia a try... | 18:15 |
| pkill9 | Sailfish costs 50 euros? | 18:16 |
| sicelo | i'm biased, or pkill9? :) | 18:16 |
| sicelo | the hwkbd is really the best think about N900 (Droid 4 also has hwkbd) | 18:17 |
| sicelo | s/think/thing/ | 18:17 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: the hwkbd is really the best thing about N900 (Droid 4 also has hwkbd) | 18:17 |
| Max___ | I think you could also flash a community port. But the official port from Jolla costs 49,90 €. But I have no problem with it. I want to support communities that support Linux... Yeah, the hardware keyboard is nice ;-) The Droid I havn't noticed untill now. Does Maemo/Linux run there? | 18:20 |
| Max___ | I saw Maemo Leste will have a port... But at the moment? | 18:21 |
| sicelo | Max___: https://wizzup.org/droid4-hd-1.mp4 ... still many rough edges, but it's coming for sure :) | 18:24 |
| sicelo | anyway, use/choose what suits you, as pkill9 already mentioned | 18:27 |
| sicelo | \o | 18:27 |
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| Max___ | @sicelo thanks for your help | 18:32 |
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| TheKit | Max___, Droid 4 also have unofficial SailfishOS port, but hardware is rather outdated... | 19:13 |
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