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vahe | hi #maemo happy new year | 08:43 |
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vahe | CatButts: how to use screen off? :D (devuan) | 08:58 |
vahe | can not seem to turn off the screen (button side ) :D | 08:59 |
CatButts | I dunno either | 09:56 |
CatButts | I lost enthusiasm when I tried to dd backup devuan partition directly on the phone | 09:56 |
CatButts | half a day for 3 gb | 09:56 |
CatButts | (device is 4gb wide) | 09:57 |
CatButts | @ vahe | 09:57 |
CatButts | I installed xorg and started it at one point | 09:57 |
CatButts | the mouse input was uncallibrated and upside down | 09:58 |
CatButts | there some config to be done there | 09:58 |
CatButts | then I decided xorg is a bloated piece of doo doo | 09:59 |
CatButts | so I formatted and started over | 09:59 |
CatButts | I am now at the stage before installing any x-server | 10:00 |
vahe | I did not understand everything, my English is not the curve allows you to understand a lot | 10:03 |
CatButts | whoops | 10:04 |
vahe | why are you re-installed the OS ? | 10:04 |
CatButts | I feel x-org is too bulky | 10:04 |
CatButts | bloated | 10:04 |
KotCzarny | because he is lazy and likes to do more work | 10:04 |
KotCzarny | also, because some people have to learn on their mistakes | 10:05 |
CatButts | and that there should be something more lightweight out there | 10:05 |
KotCzarny | which is sometimes progressing things, but most often time waste | 10:05 |
* CatButts rolls on his wasted cat butt | 10:05 | |
CatButts | I left my devuan initiative unfinished | 10:06 |
vahe | for example, there is a chroot install from apt Manager Debian , it also works fine why should there be a problem with xorg | 10:06 |
vahe | CatButts: you mean that xorg is too large for that and have a 4GB drive at least? | 10:07 |
CatButts | I am pretentious, I guess :P | 10:08 |
vahe | or CPU can't ? | 10:08 |
CatButts | it's only a few hundred mb or space | 10:09 |
CatButts | should fit fine | 10:09 |
CatButts | but I think it could be less that hundreds of mb of space used :P | 10:09 |
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vahe | 3gb | 10:11 |
vahe | :D | 10:11 |
vahe | I'm thinking of installing gentoo | 10:12 |
vahe | still don't know how but I think about it | 10:12 |
vahe | gentoo more easy | 10:12 |
vahe | devuan it's Debian | 10:14 |
vahe | or just buy a SD card 4GB ) | 10:14 |
vahe | CatButts: now what process are you ? | 10:15 |
CatButts | before any X server install | 10:15 |
vahe | you have a sdcard 2gb ? | 10:15 |
CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/devuan_steps.txt | 10:16 |
CatButts | 4gb | 10:16 |
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vahe | CatButts: `wpa_passphrase name_ssid passwd` | 10:19 |
CatButts | does that output to file or just stdout? | 10:20 |
CatButts | I think it does the latter | 10:20 |
vahe | anyway, I do not agree with the settings wpa_supplicant, it's too personal | 10:20 |
CatButts | I can't find < and > on my keyboard | 10:21 |
vahe | lol | 10:21 |
bencoh | maybe there are none | 10:21 |
Wizzup | it's bluearrow + arrow | 10:22 |
Wizzup | left/right | 10:22 |
CatButts | even in devuan? | 10:22 |
CatButts | oh | 10:22 |
CatButts | derp | 10:22 |
CatButts | wpa_passphrase must be piped to a certain file | 10:23 |
CatButts | then connection manually started | 10:23 |
Wizzup | pipe is bluearrow+z | 10:23 |
vahe | and how will the <tab> ? | 10:23 |
Wizzup | ctri+i is tab | 10:23 |
vahe | thanks | 10:23 |
Wizzup | afk | 10:23 |
vahe | CatButts: think about the backup is also not necessary | 10:26 |
CatButts | it is not | 10:26 |
vahe | flwm? :) lest go gnome :D | 10:26 |
vahe | let's* | 10:27 |
CatButts | but if I want to redo from before installing x-server, I think I am going to want that backup | 10:27 |
vahe | then write in the article is optional | 10:29 |
vahe | :) | 10:29 |
CatButts | >At this stage, you may want to | 10:30 |
CatButts | >may | 10:30 |
CatButts | I did | 10:30 |
CatButts | but not in very explicit English | 10:30 |
CatButts | it's not an article yet, it's writing on a napkin, vahe :P | 10:30 |
vahe | things you can write while recommendations on optional :D | 10:31 |
CatButts | dd if=/dev/mmcblk1 of=./mybackup.img | 10:32 |
vahe | ahaha lol http://cat.butt.care:3434/ | 10:32 |
vahe | nice | 10:32 |
CatButts | I think it may be worth limiting that to the original image's size | 10:32 |
vahe | this is a home server? | 10:33 |
CatButts | yes | 10:33 |
CatButts | it is a fast response image sharing solution | 10:33 |
CatButts | if I can remember a filename, I can show the file to the world | 10:33 |
CatButts | like for the word butt | 10:34 |
CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/table-cat-4-are-you-putting-me-on-a-diet-does-my-butt-look-big.jpg | 10:35 |
vahe | my identity is many servers at home, only use was local, my ISP sells real very expensive | 10:35 |
CatButts | if you can forward ports, you can host | 10:36 |
CatButts | do you use windows? | 10:36 |
CatButts | >30 kb/s | 10:37 |
CatButts | hmm, dissapointing upload speed | 10:37 |
vahe | my ip owns 1000 houses , they hand out ip as a proxy :D | 10:37 |
CatButts | that sucks | 10:37 |
vahe | it's a long story | 10:38 |
vahe | good kitty ) | 10:38 |
CatButts | get in trouble somewhere with ban-by-ip, others suffer for you | 10:38 |
vahe | no im no use windows 10 years | 10:38 |
CatButts | ah | 10:38 |
vahe | im gentoo user :) | 10:38 |
vahe | funtoo OS | 10:38 |
CatButts | I am stubborn winXP user | 10:39 |
CatButts | I have a puppy linux handy | 10:39 |
CatButts | but I only use it once a month or two to back up all my partitions | 10:40 |
CatButts | and of course, the n900 | 10:40 |
vahe | :) | 10:40 |
CatButts | I am under the suspicion that ext2 and ext3 are slow to write large files to | 10:41 |
CatButts | I tried above partition backup with dd on an ext3, bad idea | 10:41 |
CatButts | I reformatted to ext4 and dd images into it | 10:42 |
CatButts | massive speed improvement | 10:42 |
CatButts | this slowness seems to reflect on the n900 as well | 10:42 |
CatButts | I formatted MyDocs to ext2 | 10:42 |
CatButts | and tried to dd into it | 10:42 |
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CatButts | max cpu usage, half a day to write circa 3gb | 10:43 |
CatButts | so, is this the case with ext2 and ext3 and my suspicions are correct? | 10:43 |
KotCzarny | ext3 doubles the writes in worst case | 10:44 |
vahe | hn? you formatted the MyDocs Maemo? | 10:44 |
KotCzarny | as it updates the journal | 10:44 |
vahe | CatButts: that is, you don't have Maemo? | 10:45 |
CatButts | MyDocs is the internal 32 gb partition | 10:45 |
CatButts | yes? | 10:45 |
CatButts | I formated that from fat32 to ext2 | 10:45 |
vahe | yes | 10:46 |
vahe | oh | 10:46 |
vahe | I thought boot lies like that on Maemo | 10:46 |
CatButts | I am starting to regret this decision | 10:46 |
CatButts | boot is in 2gb nand | 10:47 |
CatButts | or something | 10:47 |
vahe | did you try to do, reboot? work ? | 10:47 |
CatButts | the partition is fine, the phone works fine | 10:47 |
CatButts | my regret is with above dd | 10:48 |
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vahe | just for curious, my funtoo OS is on the xfs | 10:48 |
vahe | mkfs.xfs /dev/mm... | 10:48 |
CatButts | unfamiliar | 10:49 |
vahe | for me better than ext4 | 10:49 |
CatButts | I should go ask in linux-centered place to confirm my suspicion about ext2/ext3 slowness | 10:51 |
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CatButts | and why it is so | 10:53 |
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Wizzup | ~. | 11:12 |
infobot | methinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for. | 11:12 |
bencoh | :] | 11:12 |
KotCzarny | hehe | 11:12 |
Wizzup | lol | 11:12 |
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ShadowJK | CatButts, the emmc is very sensitive to the transfer size, if you dd something big, make bs=131702 or even bigger | 14:34 |
ShadowJK | 2^n sizes | 14:34 |
ShadowJK | I think ext4 delays some writes, the delays make it possible to gather bigger chunks before it gets sent to phsical storage | 14:35 |
buZz | afaik its usually best in flashmem to do bs=4M | 14:35 |
KotCzarny | as long you dont add fsync to dd, linux might buffer it anyway | 14:36 |
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citylight2 | hello, I am seeking help using python-brisa for ssdp | 14:54 |
citylight2 | when I try to install this, I get a gobject error, and I wan to know if it is still maintained/used | 14:54 |
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vahe | CatButts: how are you doing ? I can't do anything :D everything I do fails | 15:57 |
vahe | distfiles.gentoo.org/experimental/arm/musl/stage3-armv7a_hardfp-musl-vanilla-20171112.tar.bz2 this manual does not work , a lot of what is written a lot of things need to change | 15:58 |
vahe | sorry https://wiki.maemo.org/Gentoo/N900 | 15:58 |
vahe | this | 15:58 |
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CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/priv/20180101_001.jpg man, I think my N900's camera is bollocks | 20:55 |
CatButts | how do photocells even end up this way? | 20:56 |
CatButts | do they have a shelf-life or something? | 20:56 |
KotCzarny | radioactivity can kill pixels | 20:56 |
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KotCzarny | google for 'camera raid through radioactive chamber' | 20:57 |
CatButts | so it dies from cosmos rays in time :P | 20:57 |
KotCzarny | or was it synchrotron | 20:57 |
* CatButts finds bad 4chan IP cam trolling videos | 20:59 | |
CatButts | clearly I took wrong turn left | 21:00 |
CatButts | *wrong left turn | 21:00 |
KotCzarny | /me is selling old items on steam | 21:00 |
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CatButts | [15:57] <vahe> CatButts: how are you doing ? I can't do anything :D everything I do fails | 21:02 |
CatButts | same | 21:02 |
CatButts | I guess I will go nap instead | 21:03 |
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ShadowJK | Wow that is quite out of focos | 22:05 |
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