| pkill9 | ergh so annoying why must the modern web not cater to lower powered devices, i.e. provide text-only option | 00:07 |
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| pkill9 | this is what gopherspace is for :D | 00:10 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | web designers don't care about performance only design. Gone are the days of divitis and flash, welcome to the age of the script | 00:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well a broad stereotypical few there but ... :P | 01:00 |
| * Maxdamantus still feels that browsers could generally do a better job at supporting lower-powered devices. | 01:03 | |
| Maxdamantus | Haven't looked particularly closely at Servo though (which I suspect is the basis of Firefox Quantum) | 01:04 |
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| Vajb | is it possible to disable "continous view" from default pdf reader on n900? It is broken imo. It skips pages frequently. | 07:32 |
| Vajb | i mean that it starts with that option disabled | 07:32 |
| Vajb | is it possible to set "continous view" disabled by default. I think this is the thing i tried to ask in the first place. | 07:34 |
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| sicelo | not that i found. once looked in gconf but didn't pick anything up | 07:47 |
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| Vajb | yeah i looked from gconf too | 07:56 |
| Vajb | is it even open source? | 07:56 |
| Vajb | also would be neat if it could handle multiple files opened at once. Now im using evince for second pdf | 07:57 |
| * Maxdamantus uses mupdf. | 07:57 | |
| Vajb | but if there ever rises a need for three pdf's at once... | 07:58 |
| Vajb | ah maybe i install mupdf for that :p | 07:58 |
| Maxdamantus | Well, mupdf handles multiple because you can just run mupdf multiple times. | 07:59 |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno about evince, but I'd've imagined it would do similar. | 07:59 |
| Vajb | hmm lemm tryä | 07:59 |
| Vajb | -ä* | 07:59 |
| Maxdamantus | mupdf also doesn't waste screen space with a bunch of buttons like this osso_pdfviewer seems to (unless it's put into fullscreen mode) | 07:59 |
| Maxdamantus | I think you'll probably need to do the WM hints fix to mupdf though. | 08:00 |
| Vajb | evince goes to previous one, if i try to open another instance | 08:01 |
| Oksana | What is the best ebook reader on N900? Something not Qt, not Python... | 08:01 |
| Oksana | It would also be neat if tracker recognised ebooks as a format separate from Documents or Text. | 08:02 |
| Oksana | Granted, for ebooks to be recognised as a different format, they would probably need to be: 1) not pdf or doc (Documents); 2) not rtf or txt (Text); 3) not html (that one format is used for just about everything, from Applications to Documents and Other). | 08:06 |
| Maxdamantus | Well, the standard ebook format is HTML, isn't it? | 08:07 |
| Maxdamantus | (epub) | 08:07 |
| Oksana | Epub is the most interesting one, yes. As in, open and well-known? | 08:08 |
| Maxdamantus | Widely used. | 08:09 |
| Maxdamantus | I haven't really used many ebooks, but I remember buying one of my university course's books from Barnes and Noble in epub format. | 08:09 |
| sicelo | for epub, i use Dorian. seemed better than the others for me. and i use epubs consistently | 08:10 |
| Maxdamantus | Though it was encrypted somehow .. had to do something involving some Adobe software in a Windows VM to convert it into a regular epub that I could load in fbreader. | 08:10 |
| sicelo | Maxdamantus: how to zoom in using mupdf? | 08:10 |
| Maxdamantus | sicelo: + | 08:10 |
| sicelo | nice. thanks. | 08:11 |
| sicelo | and how to go to a page? | 08:11 |
| Maxdamantus | 123G | 08:12 |
| Maxdamantus | to go to page 123 | 08:12 |
| sicelo | :-) | 08:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Can also do things like 5<right> to move forward 5 pages | 08:12 |
| sicelo | thatś what i never learned. but this is rreally great. | 08:13 |
| Maxdamantus | The man page should have the keys. | 08:13 |
| Oksana | There is a variety of formats. epub, mobi, cbr-cbz, fb2, djvu, chm... Mobi is not widely used, cbr is niche (comics), fb2 is interesting alternative to epub, djvu is Documents (or very old scanned paper books), chm is mostly Software-Documentation. | 08:13 |
| KotCzarny | comics are NOT niche! | 08:13 |
| Oksana | Okay, so dorian and fbreader... | 08:14 |
| * Maxdamantus has been using mupdf for everything on his desktop for years too. | 08:14 | |
| Oksana | KotCzarny : I have yet to find a good source of comics, but that's because I don't go looking for them. I do have appropriate reader installed on my N900 though, just in case. | 08:14 |
| KotCzarny | torrents or if you look for translated ones you have to find your local translating group | 08:15 |
| KotCzarny | look for neil gaiman for starters | 08:16 |
| KotCzarny | good stuff | 08:16 |
| Oksana | Huh... What is a good comic-creating software? Because that's my problem with typical ebook-readers: they don't exactly have an edit mode. | 08:16 |
| KotCzarny | because they are bnch of images with text file for meta data | 08:16 |
| KotCzarny | and often crafted manually | 08:17 |
| KotCzarny | don't go overboard with 'i need an app for..' | 08:17 |
| Oksana | Granted, "Gallery" doesn't exactly help with creating images, either, but at least it allows some tiny edits (crop, brightness+contrast, et cetera). Somehow getting Photos to interact with Sketch (just like Camera interacts with Photos) would be nice. | 08:17 |
| KotCzarny | frontview does nicely for cropping etc | 08:18 |
| Oksana | Ideally, a ebook app would allow for plugins to interact with websites. Such as, browse ebooks published online (and download them to local shelf for offline reading), write ebooks on device and publish them online... | 08:18 |
| Oksana | Plugin for ArchiveOfOurOwn, for example. | 08:19 |
| * Oksana is currently thinking that Photos and Media Player could be integrated, since gif is something inbetween an image and a video | 08:20 | |
| Oksana | As in, made one app. But GUI would be a hell to design | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | different uses | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | different modes/functions | 08:21 |
| Oksana | How so? Cropping a video, or changing its brightness-contrast, is not impossible. Just troublesome. | 08:21 |
| KotCzarny | photos should becom gallery | 08:21 |
| KotCzarny | ie. photos+moving images (but not exactly full size blueray releases) | 08:21 |
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| Oksana | Gallery for all photos+videos? Fun, especially taking music (with album covers) into account. | 08:23 |
| KotCzarny | not all videos, but those in dcim folder | 08:24 |
| * Oksana still thinks that Image's Creator, Music's Artist and such should be integrated with Contacts aka address book. | 08:24 | |
| KotCzarny | that way when you browse your summer memories you would see them all without need for getting out for missing moving images | 08:24 |
| sicelo | buy android for that :-) | 08:25 |
| Oksana | KotCzarny : Agree. I still wonder when I see how Gwenview can display not only images, but videos as well | 08:26 |
| * Oksana still thinks that Sketch is very SVG-ish. If it wasn't for eraser tool, at least. | 08:27 | |
| sicelo | Maxdamantus: + doesnt zoom on n900 .. or i´ missing something? | 08:41 |
| Maxdamantus | sicelo: do any keys work? If not, it's probably the WM hints issue. | 08:44 |
| Maxdamantus | (so the input will be going to the previous window you had focused) | 08:44 |
| sicelo | yes, makes sense. how to fix? :) | 08:45 |
| Maxdamantus | Have to modify the source code. | 08:45 |
| Maxdamantus | I could probably post the deb I made. | 08:45 |
| Maxdamantus | https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/daf0a165e1aeccc62d24d580d965bd89/raw/dc77efb37ecb042ba5b22979f91ac6bab1ed1872/mupdf_1.4-1_armel.deb | 08:50 |
| Maxdamantus | I think that's the package I'm using. | 08:50 |
| Maxdamantus | Should probably figure out how to upload it to the repository or something. | 08:51 |
| sicelo | let me test | 08:57 |
| sicelo | thanks. working. | 08:59 |
| Maxdamantus | np | 08:59 |
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| Wikiwide | Epubreader is a fascinating application. At the very least, it integrates with tracker? | 13:23 |
| Wikiwide | Though I wish it would help tracker to generate thumbnails for epubs | 13:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | integrates in what way? | 13:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have epubreader installed seems to do the job, not that I read books or ebooks a lot. | 13:28 |
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