IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2017-09-06

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Enrico_MenottiAre the Maemo kernel sources available? There was http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta2/free/k/kernel/, which now is obviously dead. Also, I have found that the complete PR1.3 sources were available as a cdrom image, right? I have seen there is something on DocScrutinizer05 's site, but things are stored in the N9 directory. What for N900?09:43
bencohkernel-power is availabe in extras (including sources)09:47
Enrico_MenottiAnd the stock kernel?09:47
bencohI don't remember ... sdk maybe09:48
Enrico_MenottiInteresting page: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Maemo.09:49
Enrico_MenottiWhere is the sdk? I can't find it on muarf.09:53
bencohthat's because it's hosted on repository.maemo.org09:59
Enrico_MenottiYes, it's on repository.maemo.org. But can't find the kernel. Was it available?09:59
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Enrico_MenottiFound it! It's in the repositories for Maemo SDKs, in the free components.10:02
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Enrico_MenottiUseful info: http://natisbad.org/N900/n900-custom-kernel.html.10:04
Enrico_MenottiOk, time to work now. Back on the game in the evening. bencoh : thanks for pointing me to the sdk.10:06
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DocScrutinizer05/topic13:31
DocScrutinizer05~sb13:32
infobotsomebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB13:32
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DocScrutinizer05off-topic: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/et_al/S60-bulging/22:04
DocScrutinizer05all of a sudden, unnoticed, during 30min while I had a walk with device on my belt22:05
KotCzarnyboom?22:05
DocScrutinizer05nothing22:05
DocScrutinizer05"just" pregnant22:06
DocScrutinizer059 months in 30 min22:06
KotCzarnyit's an oldtimer twist on bending phones fad22:06
KotCzarnyit's an internal short22:06
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: how old is that device?22:06
KotCzarnycrystal pierced insulator, started gassing22:07
DocScrutinizer05<24 months, rather 1422:07
freemangordonomg22:07
freemangordonmy GF has the same22:07
freemangordonit is less than 6 months old22:07
DocScrutinizer05Cat-S60, Do they use same shit like Samsung?22:07
KotCzarnyLOL22:07
KotCzarnyit's that cat phone?22:07
freemangordonyes, cat s6022:08
KotCzarnythe one that were meant to be hardened?22:08
DocScrutinizer05https://www.catphones.com/de-de/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/s60-feature-4.jpg22:08
freemangordonmhm22:08
KotCzarny...22:08
DocScrutinizer05THIS one isn't waterproof anymore ;-P22:08
freemangordondoes it still work?22:08
KotCzarnyLOL22:09
DocScrutinizer05YES! :-D22:09
KotCzarnydischarge it22:09
freemangordonBTW, that "hardened" device lost is backcover paint in less than 2 months22:09
DocScrutinizer05yeah, placed it outdoors, in a plastic sack22:09
DocScrutinizer05left it powered up22:09
DocScrutinizer05no paint here, mere plastic with fake carbon fibre optics22:10
KotCzarnymaybe it was a store refurb22:10
freemangordonyes, this is what I am talking about, it mimics carbon fibre but is paint22:10
DocScrutinizer05nfc22:10
DocScrutinizer05anyway great to receive a reploacement (I *hope* so, since the display already has sufered pressure damage - a thumb fingerprint sized blueish dot in white display22:11
freemangordonKotCzarny: no, brand new22:11
DocScrutinizer05also I heard they are selling a modified cwersion now, with less flimsy covers for the receptacles, with better seals etc22:12
DocScrutinizer05s/cwersion/verison/22:12
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: also I heard they are selling a modified verison now, with less flimsy covers for the receptacles, with better seals etc22:12
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: BTW, have you ever had problems with proximity sensor (or its SW) on that device?22:13
freemangordonas it seems the screen unlocks randomli in a call22:13
freemangordon*randomly22:13
KotCzarnyat this rate i suspect cheapo 'myphone hammer' would fare better22:13
DocScrutinizer05errr, I don't even know if it HAS a proximity sensor. I never used that device as a phone22:13
freemangordonah. what for than, hammer? :D22:13
freemangordon*then22:14
DocScrutinizer05hm?22:14
APicHm.22:14
freemangordonwhat did you use that device for if not as a phone?22:14
DocScrutinizer05I used this device for "MEH android, I know I jate it" and for the awesome FLIR22:14
freemangordonyeah, FLIR22:15
DocScrutinizer05*occasionally* I used offline google maps navigation22:15
freemangordonyeah, it managed to get me almost lost in Greece a couple of times (google navigation)22:16
DocScrutinizer05but honestly the FLIR is the only reason to really use it. It's sooooo awesome. Just yesterday I strked the table with my cigarette and the glowing spot went off and flee *somewhere*. With FLOR it was a matter of seconds to spot it and verify there's no pending doom from it22:17
DocScrutinizer05fell*22:17
freemangordonfor some reason it tells you "turn left" 100 meters before you really have to22:17
DocScrutinizer05yeah sire22:17
DocScrutinizer05sure22:17
DocScrutinizer05I still have a look at the route at laerge before I start driving22:18
freemangordonafter that experience I always have sygic on n900 running in parallel :)22:18
DocScrutinizer05I got a good feeling for not taking a turn into a tiny way when it tells me to turn, when there's a huge street within vicinity. Until I approach my destination and small streets make sense22:19
freemangordonyeah, I know that feeling :)22:20
DocScrutinizer05anyway, this SHIT DAMN battery in S60, THANK YOU for giving me option for warranty replacement, just in time when they *finally* rooted that crappgone-S6022:21
DocScrutinizer05I'm so happy I didn't root it last week already22:21
DocScrutinizer05https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/cat-s60-snapdragon-617-rootable-t3433018/post73310026#post7331002622:21
* DocScrutinizer05 glares at those ridiculous tiny plastic chips. Called uSD and micro-SIM22:23
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DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/et_al/S60-bulging/DSCF2712.JPG22:32
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freemangordonhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1534009#post153400923:37
freemangordonprogress on fremantle porting to devuan23:37
freemangordonWizzup: parazyd: ^^^23:38
parazyd<323:39
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parazydtomorrow Wizzup and i will continue a bit on our side with the packaging stuff23:45
parazydwe got quite far i'd say23:45
freemangordonI am waiting for arm builds to install it on my tablet :)23:49
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parazydyep!23:51
parazydbtw, how does the environment start? is there a login manager of some sort in place?23:52
freemangordonno login manager23:52
freemangordonuser is hardcoded in maemo - "user"23:53
freemangordonstartup process is still to be fixed, I have hard time with upstart23:53
parazydi see23:53
freemangordonhalf of the stuff is started via upstart, the other via Xsession.d23:54
freemangordonbut for sure there is lots of worc for /etc/init23:54
freemangordon*work23:54
parazydyeah... devuan plans for openrc eventually, so keep that in mind23:55
freemangordonalso, I think i am hitting some upstream bug as it seems dbus doesnt get started on bootup23:55
freemangordonI will, but I will need help with that one when it comes to it23:55
parazydopenrc is something i can help with :)23:55
freemangordoncool23:56
parazydprobably more of us here too23:56
freemangordonso far I fixed it to the point - "does it start somehow? YES, cool. leave it that way" :)23:57
parazyd:D23:57
KotCzarnygood enough tech [tm]23:58

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