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Juestomaemo is similarly to chrome os06:05
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siceloit's your conclusion, or a question? never having used chromeos, i doubt that maemo is remotely similar07:47
Juestoexperience-wise sort of07:48
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Gameraso what's happening with that motherboard for the n90008:51
Gamerait started like 5 years ago or something08:51
Gameraneo900, it's looking extremely familiar08:54
Gamerawhat's the hardware version of "vapourware"08:56
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sixwheeledbeast^see freenode #neo900 and
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Wizzupbencoh: ordered a droid4 as well for porting fun later10:39
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bencohWizzup: huhu :)10:59
bencohtempting me ... so mean! :)10:59
Wizzupthey're like 40 bucks on ebay, for refurbished and unlocked ones10:59
bencoh(I have a friend at work that has been asking me about it as well for quite some time ... he stopped only recently)10:59
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Juestowouldn't any android phone be enough Wizzup ?11:01
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Juestoi mean why droid 411:02
Wizzup(1) mainline kernel (2) most of the driver works seems to be doen or under active dev (3) keyboard (4) hdmi out11:03
Juestoi bet it's mostly the hardware keyboard more than anything else11:06
bencoh(5) usb modem11:06
Wizzupwhat good is a phone with no driver support and no mainline kernel11:07
Wizzupbencoh: ah yeah11:07
Juestoi have a nexus 5x11:07
Juestosuper newer11:08
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Juestobut i guess Google devices have no hardware keyboard nor modem11:08
Juestobencoh: otg is more than enough to use an Ethernet accessory11:09
Juestobut nothing like a modem afaik11:09
Juestohow do you configure it11:09
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Wizzupjskarvad: you're glancing over all the real issues11:19
WizzupI meant Juesto11:19
WizzupJuesto: you can't just take an android kernel and call it a day11:20
Wizzupyou want maintainable solutions that are present in the normal linux kernel11:20
Wizzupmost android phones are not supposed at all, or only one some old kernel branch11:20
Wizzupit's not about 'being new' or 'specs'11:21
Wizzupit's about being able to use the bloody device11:21
Wizzupcomparison: what good is a wifi 2.4 and 5ghz dongle if I can only use their driver on a linux kernel older than 3.1811:21
JuestoDepends, usually being new means good support. :/11:21
Wizzupyou serious?11:22
WizzupThe opposite is true with Linux11:22
Juestoand that's why linux is still on the long way of yet-to-beat Windows11:23
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DocScrutinizer05good he's gone15:39
Wizzup*shrug* it would be nice to have additional people help packaging15:41
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DocScrutinizer05was just wondering how much trolling the last post been16:03
WizzupI think you're mistaking ignorance for trolling16:03
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DocScrutinizer05the droid 4 has a USB modem?16:16
DocScrutinizer05that would be pretty strange since you don't do that if you got _any_ chance to go for HSI or similar16:16
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DocScrutinizer05ok, HSI in OMAP4 is terribly SiErr infested, so that would possible be a valid reason too for USB16:18
WizzupIt has two usb modems16:24
Wizzupthe 2g/3g one and the 4g one16:24
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DocScrutinizer05ta! didn't even know there were LTE-only modems16:30
Wizzupthe 4g modem is useless in europe though16:30
Wizzups/4g/lte/ gdi16:30
DocScrutinizer05yeah. 700MHz only, eh?16:32
DocScrutinizer05well, prolly they use chip2chip USB (without PHY), that would be a  reasonable alternative to HSI even when you got zhe choice. Particularly when you avoid ENUM. On a software level they would not be distinguishable (except maybe from not showing ENUM activity in syslog)16:35
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DocScrutinizer05WAAH!  >>This directory contains a driver for the Qualcomm Gobi 2000 CDMA/GSM modem. The device speaks a protocol called QMI with its host; this driver's responsibility is to multiplex transactions over QMI connections. Note that the relatively simple encoding defined in qmi.h and qmi.c is only the encapsulating protocol; the device speaks a more complex set of protocols embodied in the closed-source Gobi SDK which are necessary to use16:49
DocScrutinizer05advanced features of the device.<<16:49
DocScrutinizer05this sounds terribly like ISI without the public docs16:50
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DocScrutinizer05aaah >>The mainline kernel also has a driver for QMI, which is located in drivers/net/usb/qmi_wwan.c and supported by ofono!<< well I wonder how those guys managed to get support from all the manufacturers. I have weird nasty phantasies what they did to get that16:51
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Juestorip bot22:10
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