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| Juesto | so | 06:05 |
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| Juesto | maemo is similarly to chrome os | 06:05 |
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| sicelo | it's your conclusion, or a question? never having used chromeos, i doubt that maemo is remotely similar | 07:47 |
| Juesto | experience-wise sort of | 07:48 |
| Juesto | meh | 07:49 |
| Juesto | anyway | 07:52 |
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| Gamera | so what's happening with that motherboard for the n900 | 08:51 |
| Gamera | it started like 5 years ago or something | 08:51 |
| Gamera | neo900, it's looking extremely familiar | 08:54 |
| Gamera | what's the hardware version of "vapourware" | 08:56 |
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| Juesto | hmm? | 09:57 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | see freenode #neo900 and neo900.org. | 10:32 |
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| Wizzup | bencoh: ordered a droid4 as well for porting fun later | 10:39 |
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| bencoh | Wizzup: huhu :) | 10:59 |
| bencoh | tempting me ... so mean! :) | 10:59 |
| Wizzup | :p | 10:59 |
| Wizzup | they're like 40 bucks on ebay, for refurbished and unlocked ones | 10:59 |
| bencoh | (I have a friend at work that has been asking me about it as well for quite some time ... he stopped only recently) | 10:59 |
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| Juesto | wouldn't any android phone be enough Wizzup ? | 11:01 |
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| Juesto | i mean why droid 4 | 11:02 |
| Wizzup | (1) mainline kernel (2) most of the driver works seems to be doen or under active dev (3) keyboard (4) hdmi out | 11:03 |
| Juesto | i bet it's mostly the hardware keyboard more than anything else | 11:06 |
| bencoh | (5) usb modem | 11:06 |
| Wizzup | what good is a phone with no driver support and no mainline kernel | 11:07 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: ah yeah | 11:07 |
| Juesto | Uh | 11:07 |
| Juesto | i have a nexus 5x | 11:07 |
| Juesto | super newer | 11:08 |
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| Juesto | but i guess Google devices have no hardware keyboard nor modem | 11:08 |
| Juesto | bencoh: otg is more than enough to use an Ethernet accessory | 11:09 |
| Juesto | but nothing like a modem afaik | 11:09 |
| Juesto | how do you configure it | 11:09 |
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| Wizzup | jskarvad: you're glancing over all the real issues | 11:19 |
| Wizzup | er | 11:19 |
| Wizzup | whoops | 11:19 |
| Wizzup | I meant Juesto | 11:19 |
| Wizzup | Juesto: you can't just take an android kernel and call it a day | 11:20 |
| Wizzup | you want maintainable solutions that are present in the normal linux kernel | 11:20 |
| Wizzup | most android phones are not supposed at all, or only one some old kernel branch | 11:20 |
| Wizzup | s/supposed/supported/ | 11:20 |
| Juesto | hmm | 11:21 |
| Wizzup | it's not about 'being new' or 'specs' | 11:21 |
| Wizzup | it's about being able to use the bloody device | 11:21 |
| Wizzup | comparison: what good is a wifi 2.4 and 5ghz dongle if I can only use their driver on a linux kernel older than 3.18 | 11:21 |
| Juesto | Depends, usually being new means good support. :/ | 11:21 |
| Wizzup | you serious? | 11:22 |
| Wizzup | The opposite is true with Linux | 11:22 |
| Juesto | right | 11:22 |
| Juesto | and that's why linux is still on the long way of yet-to-beat Windows | 11:23 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | wut? | 13:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | good he's gone | 15:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | she? | 15:40 |
| Wizzup | *shrug* it would be nice to have additional people help packaging | 15:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | was just wondering how much trolling the last post been | 16:03 |
| Wizzup | I think you're mistaking ignorance for trolling | 16:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | possible | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the droid 4 has a USB modem? | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that would be pretty strange since you don't do that if you got _any_ chance to go for HSI or similar | 16:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, HSI in OMAP4 is terribly SiErr infested, so that would possible be a valid reason too for USB | 16:18 |
| Wizzup | It has two usb modems | 16:24 |
| Wizzup | the 2g/3g one and the 4g one | 16:24 |
| Wizzup | s/4glte/ | 16:24 |
| Wizzup | er | 16:24 |
| Wizzup | s/4g/lte/ | 16:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 16:27 |
| Wizzup | http://elektranox.org/2017/02/0013-droid-4-modem/ | 16:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ta! didn't even know there were LTE-only modems | 16:30 |
| Wizzup | the 4g modem is useless in europe though | 16:30 |
| Wizzup | s/4g/lte/ gdi | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah. 700MHz only, eh? | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, prolly they use chip2chip USB (without PHY), that would be a reasonable alternative to HSI even when you got zhe choice. Particularly when you avoid ENUM. On a software level they would not be distinguishable (except maybe from not showing ENUM activity in syslog) | 16:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | WAAH! >>This directory contains a driver for the Qualcomm Gobi 2000 CDMA/GSM modem. The device speaks a protocol called QMI with its host; this driver's responsibility is to multiplex transactions over QMI connections. Note that the relatively simple encoding defined in qmi.h and qmi.c is only the encapsulating protocol; the device speaks a more complex set of protocols embodied in the closed-source Gobi SDK which are necessary to use | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | advanced features of the device.<< | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this sounds terribly like ISI without the public docs | 16:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah >>The mainline kernel also has a driver for QMI, which is located in drivers/net/usb/qmi_wwan.c and supported by ofono!<< well I wonder how those guys managed to get support from all the manufacturers. I have weird nasty phantasies what they did to get that | 16:51 |
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| jamesl | ~flasher | 21:49 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~ping | 22:09 |
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