IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2017-05-06

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DocScrutinizer05userrrr: please try:00:05
DocScrutinizer05~lazyflashing00:06
infobotsomebody said lazyflashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach00:06
DocScrutinizer05[2017-05-05 Fri 23:03:17] <userrrr> hi, i tried to flash n900 using vanilla but after two messages that everything was flashed successfully and a reboot i wan't able to get through nokia screen. flasher also reports this: Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2101 NOLO version 1.4.14 Version of 'sw-release': <no version>00:06
userrrrDocScrutinizer05: can you tell please why that happened?00:07
DocScrutinizer05unclear. Some flashing sometimes resets software-version but that's not a big deal yet, should still work and prolly even recover eventually00:08
DocScrutinizer05iirc software version is stored in CAL (a partition of NAND storage that holds config data)00:08
DocScrutinizer05anyway I guess sw-release:<none> is unrelated to device not booting00:10
userrrrso, NAND has bad blocks or what?00:10
DocScrutinizer05so please try lazyflashing, it's supposed to work. Flash all00:10
DocScrutinizer05no, some flashing - when aborted, I guess - leaves a void sw-version in CAL00:11
DocScrutinizer05not sure00:11
DocScrutinizer05'sw-release': <no version>  is known from early days of maemo, but never shown up as a cause of severe problems since years00:12
DocScrutinizer05and I don't think it was a source of severe problems back when it occurred00:12
DocScrutinizer05possibly a symptom, but never a cause00:13
userrrrDocScrutinizer05: thanks, getting the script...00:13
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L29Ahcan i see a history of ussd requests?06:49
L29Ahthey don't show up in the call history :(06:49
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siceloL29Ah: i don't believe you can (on any mobile for that matter)09:33
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L29Ahi believe you can on sailfish09:37
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Enrico_MenottiHello. I'd like to try Hildon on Devuan (N900). I know it is not quite ready for that. I also know others are working on that. Now, I found https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-desktop. Is this the right place to start from? Should it work on Debian already? Are there any instructions to build it?11:00
raveloEnrico_Menotti, yay11:01
Enrico_Menottiravelo What do you mean?11:02
raveloEnrico_Menotti, sorry, just wanted to encourage you ...11:03
ravelo:)11:03
Enrico_Menotti:)11:04
ravelootherwise I cannot help yet ;)11:04
Enrico_Menottiravelo Did you see my document on Devuan installation?11:04
Enrico_Menottihttps://oasis.sandstorm.io/grain/nnsxfmhxk2NAGYYcfCovrF/11:04
ravelosry, did not have time for it yet11:04
Enrico_Menotti(Or rather Devuan test.)11:04
Enrico_MenottiNo worries, thanks.11:05
ravelothanks for reminding11:05
Enrico_MenottiWell, I'll wait some time until I get a few feedbacks, if possible, then publish on the wiki. That's my plan.11:05
ravelogreat11:06
ravelobbl11:06
Enrico_MenottiOk.11:06
siceloi looked at it very briefly yesterday. it's good :)11:07
siceloi'd say wiki it right away ... any issues can still be ironed out on wiki11:07
Enrico_Menottisicelo Thanks. I'll do that in a few days. What's the best way? Upload it somewhere as a separate document, or copy and paste on a wiki page?11:08
sicelocopy paste should be good. of course you might need to play a bit with wiki syntax for the code parts11:09
Enrico_MenottiOk, I'll follow that way. Thanks.11:10
Enrico_Menottifreemangordon Ping.11:26
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Enrico_MenottiI received two positive feedbacks on my document, and I have some free time now. So I'm thinking about creating a wiki page with that. Is it ok if I go for talk.maemo.org -> OS/platform -> Alternatives (i.e. http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36), and create a new thread? Is it maybe worth creating a sub-forum for Devuan?15:13
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siceloEnrico_Menotti: http://wiki.maemo.org . . . that's too long for tmo15:52
siceloif you want a tmo thread, you can link to your wiki entry15:53
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siceloi don't believe you can create a sub-forum on tmo ... although you could ask admins to create it foryou15:54
parazydwiki is prefered15:55
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DocScrutinizer05wiki!17:26
DocScrutinizer05talk.maemo.org -> OS/platform -> Alternatives is ok for tmo threads about devuan, but not the right place for documentation17:27
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_on_Debian17:29
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Enrico_MenottiDocScrutinizer05 Should I post on that wiki page? "Maemo_on_Debian"? Wouldn't be better a "Devuan_on_N900"?17:50
DocScrutinizer05yes, the latter17:50
DocScrutinizer05maemo_on_devuan17:51
DocScrutinizer05wait, that's not maemo, so yours is more to the point17:51
Enrico_MenottiSo is it possible for me to create such a page? (Sorry for asking - it's the first time I do such things.)17:52
DocScrutinizer05but what I linked is the right 'namespace'17:52
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Devuan_on_N90017:53
Enrico_MenottiDid you create it right now?17:53
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Devuan_on_N900&action=edit  only when logged in17:53
DocScrutinizer05hope it works for you. If not let me know17:54
Enrico_MenottiI will try immediately.17:54
DocScrutinizer05and?17:54
DocScrutinizer05ooh, login takes some time17:54
DocScrutinizer05anyway should work, the page isn't protected from what I can tell17:55
DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2017/05/06/plasma-desktopm22054.png17:56
Enrico_MenottiOk, I'm in the edit form. I'm trying to understand whether I may upload my doc or better copy and paste.17:58
DocScrutinizer05c&p17:58
DocScrutinizer05no way to upload files and make them visible in a reasonable manner17:58
Enrico_MenottiOk.17:58
DocScrutinizer05you can embed files but that's strongly discouraged for plain text info meant to be editable by others17:59
DocScrutinizer05re "sub forum" the fptf sub might fit as well18:01
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=5818:03
DocScrutinizer05but not really, I think http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36 fits fine. Once admins decide to make a Devuan subforum under http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36, they will move threads accordingly18:04
Enrico_MenottiOk, I will first create the wiki. Then we'll see, ok?18:05
DocScrutinizer05I created a thread for you ;-)18:07
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1527744#post152774418:07
Enrico_MenottiThank you!18:08
DocScrutinizer05yw, thanks for doing the howto18:09
DocScrutinizer05a hint: save frequently when editing wiki pages. You'll frown when 'save' fails and nukes all your edits done since last save18:11
DocScrutinizer05sometimes browser back-button can recover the edits in such case, but not always18:12
DocScrutinizer05Enrico_Menotti: ^^^18:13
Enrico_MenottiOk.18:14
DocScrutinizer05non-obvious trick: to make evvective linebreaks, add a few space to end of line, before CR18:21
DocScrutinizer05effective*18:22
DocScrutinizer05iirc18:22
* DocScrutinizer05 hopes that wasn't another wiki markup language18:22
DocScrutinizer05damn, no, doesn't work on wmo18:24
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Help:Editing and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting18:26
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DocScrutinizer05MediaWiki ignores single line breaks. To start a new paragraph, leave an empty line. You can force a line break within a paragraph with the HTML tag <br />.18:29
Enrico_MenottiDocScrutinizer05 Did it. Thank you!19:06
DocScrutinizer05yw19:06
Enrico_Menottiparazyd sicelo ^^^19:06
DocScrutinizer05great page!19:06
Enrico_Menotti(And anyone else.)19:06
Enrico_MenottiThank you!19:07
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