IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2017-03-17

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Sicelonot exactly big deal, but why would powertop crash on my N900?17:42
Sicelohttp://paste.debian.net/922301/17:42
KotCzarnytrying to access some inexistent resource?17:42
Sicelothat's strace powertop .. zzztop works fine however17:42
Siceloand powertop worked before17:42
KotCzarnyyou've got a virus?17:43
KotCzarny;)17:43
Siceloof course not17:43
KotCzarnyusually segv is a programmer error17:43
KotCzarnyassuming too much about input and failing when it's out of assumptions17:43
KotCzarnyhard to guess what is the cause in this case17:44
KotCzarnyyou can also try to run it under gdb17:44
Siceloi don't have it on N900. i guess i'll wait for next power down event. 27 days uptime atm17:45
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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: segv usually means "pointer to <invalid addr>" (often zero). Anyway it seems to not happen in a system function, and since we have no source for powertop, it's pretty hard to tell what goes haywire18:54
* DocScrutinizer05 doesn't use maemo powertop since ages, zzztop is so many magnitudes better18:57
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Sicelothanks for the info DocScrutinizer05 & KotCzarny20:09
Vajbhmm is it safe to kill mafw dbus wrapper?20:17
Vajbi think it is doing something stupid since i can't recall it using 15% cpu constantly20:18
freemangordonVajb: yes, it will be restarted when needed again20:18
Vajbbefore i mean20:18
Vajbok20:18
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DocScrutinizer05"using 15% CPU" is pretty much bogus values on a device with dynamic CPU clock freq scaling, and even zeroclock20:29
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DocScrutinizer05"using 5% CPU" might be much worse (when it's with 1000MHz CPU clock, and 100% C1 state) than "using 100% CPU" with CPU at 250MHz for a 20ms per second, and sleping for the rest of the time20:32
DocScrutinizer05nevertheless mafw wrapper shouldn't use any percentage ( >0%) of CPU, unless you have some media content active20:32
DocScrutinizer05the 'problem" with %-CPU is that it's a relative value in relation to the total CPU cycles done20:34
DocScrutinizer05afaik20:34
DocScrutinizer05definitely it's not taking CPU freq into account20:35
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DocScrutinizer05and CPU freq = 0Hz is completely throwing over all the numbers20:37
Vajb load average: 0.22, 0.43, 0.3920:38
Vajbbefore i killed mafw it was around 2,620:38
Vajbi know it doesn't make sense with 15 percent cpu usage, but it seemed to fix that anyways.20:39
DocScrutinizer05oh, it makes perfect sense. Load can be >1 even on single core, since load also counts in wait-for-IO20:59
DocScrutinizer05during which CPU is (or can be) idle21:00
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sixwheeledbeastI know I didn't write it but I'm glad I had time to package zzztop for maemo, it's only a perl script but very handy to pull a useful diag tool from Extras.23:02
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