IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2017-03-13

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peetah~scratchbox12:12
infobotscratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB12:12
peetah~scratchbox212:12
peetahis scratchbox still the recommended environment to develop for Maemo ? what about scratchbox212:14
peetah?12:14
KotCzarnydepends what you are going to do12:14
KotCzarnyfor qt apps there was madde12:15
KotCzarnyfor simple 'compile package' one could get away with chroot (especially true on arm systems)12:15
KotCzarny~sb212:15
KotCzarny~madde12:15
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, madde is http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE http://sourceforge.net/projects/madde/ https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/madde‎12:15
peetahbasically compiling stuff12:17
KotCzarnybig or small?12:17
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peetahI would like to try having tor up to date12:17
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peetahmaybe adding signal protocol for SMS as well as OMEMO for Conversations12:18
KotCzarnyyou might check sb vm image12:18
KotCzarny~tabletsdev12:18
infobotfrom memory, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/  http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev ,  http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/12:18
peetah"try" is the key word here :)12:18
KotCzarnysee last link12:18
peetahok thanks12:19
KotCzarnythere are images (~1gig)12:19
KotCzarnyand there are bootable cd created from it available in some tmo thread12:19
KotCzarnydo you own any arm machine?12:19
peetahyes but my sheevaplug is not powerful enough for development12:20
KotCzarny:)12:20
KotCzarnyif you are really adventurous you could try using my arm chroot directly on n90012:21
KotCzarny(or via ssh)12:21
KotCzarnyits small ~400MB unpacked12:21
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KotCzarnyand being chroot it's self contained12:21
peetahwhy not cross compiling ?12:21
KotCzarnyi have a 4xcortex-A7 machine12:22
KotCzarnyit's running 24/7 and drawing ~2Watts of power12:22
peetahnice12:22
KotCzarnyso it's that and laziness12:22
KotCzarnyas i would've had to get my x86 box either booting via network or running all the time and eating lots of power12:23
KotCzarnyso for a sinmpl 'i want to compile package xyz' it's definitely easier to manage12:23
KotCzarny*simple12:23
KotCzarnyi haven't tried to run it on n900 though, so dont know if it works there without fixing something12:24
peetahI had a scratchbox environment back in the day of my functional n900, but I deleted it when it failed to make phone calls. I got a new one recently so I would like to build a dev env up to date12:26
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KotCzarnyyou can still make network-controllable audio player from that broken n90012:55
KotCzarnyand use your laptop or other n900 to control it12:56
KotCzarnyif you are interested, check out my player12:56
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