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peetah | ~scratchbox | 12:12 |
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infobot | scratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 12:12 |
peetah | ~scratchbox2 | 12:12 |
peetah | is scratchbox still the recommended environment to develop for Maemo ? what about scratchbox2 | 12:14 |
peetah | ? | 12:14 |
KotCzarny | depends what you are going to do | 12:14 |
KotCzarny | for qt apps there was madde | 12:15 |
KotCzarny | for simple 'compile package' one could get away with chroot (especially true on arm systems) | 12:15 |
KotCzarny | ~sb2 | 12:15 |
KotCzarny | ~madde | 12:15 |
infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, madde is http://wiki.maemo.org/MADDE http://sourceforge.net/projects/madde/ https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/madde | 12:15 |
peetah | basically compiling stuff | 12:17 |
KotCzarny | big or small? | 12:17 |
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peetah | I would like to try having tor up to date | 12:17 |
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peetah | maybe adding signal protocol for SMS as well as OMEMO for Conversations | 12:18 |
KotCzarny | you might check sb vm image | 12:18 |
KotCzarny | ~tabletsdev | 12:18 |
infobot | from memory, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 12:18 |
peetah | "try" is the key word here :) | 12:18 |
KotCzarny | see last link | 12:18 |
peetah | ok thanks | 12:19 |
KotCzarny | there are images (~1gig) | 12:19 |
KotCzarny | and there are bootable cd created from it available in some tmo thread | 12:19 |
KotCzarny | do you own any arm machine? | 12:19 |
peetah | yes but my sheevaplug is not powerful enough for development | 12:20 |
KotCzarny | :) | 12:20 |
KotCzarny | if you are really adventurous you could try using my arm chroot directly on n900 | 12:21 |
KotCzarny | (or via ssh) | 12:21 |
KotCzarny | its small ~400MB unpacked | 12:21 |
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KotCzarny | and being chroot it's self contained | 12:21 |
peetah | why not cross compiling ? | 12:21 |
KotCzarny | i have a 4xcortex-A7 machine | 12:22 |
KotCzarny | it's running 24/7 and drawing ~2Watts of power | 12:22 |
peetah | nice | 12:22 |
KotCzarny | so it's that and laziness | 12:22 |
KotCzarny | as i would've had to get my x86 box either booting via network or running all the time and eating lots of power | 12:23 |
KotCzarny | so for a sinmpl 'i want to compile package xyz' it's definitely easier to manage | 12:23 |
KotCzarny | *simple | 12:23 |
KotCzarny | i haven't tried to run it on n900 though, so dont know if it works there without fixing something | 12:24 |
peetah | I had a scratchbox environment back in the day of my functional n900, but I deleted it when it failed to make phone calls. I got a new one recently so I would like to build a dev env up to date | 12:26 |
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KotCzarny | you can still make network-controllable audio player from that broken n900 | 12:55 |
KotCzarny | and use your laptop or other n900 to control it | 12:56 |
KotCzarny | if you are interested, check out my player | 12:56 |
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