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buZz | OS on nand or OS on sd? | 00:18 |
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kerio | nand is supposedly way faster than the mmc | 00:25 |
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Vajb | kerio: mine clics too and it happens when i touch the screen and i think it's caused by some loose screw under screen. | 00:33 |
kerio | no mine is constant | 00:34 |
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Wizzup | parazyd: what kernel do you use on your n900 | 01:08 |
Wizzup | the one I compiled, or a more recent one from pali? | 01:08 |
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t4nk303 | on a scale from 0 to 10 how dead is this community? | 01:27 |
kerio | involuntary spasms | 01:43 |
t4nk303 | right, so has there been any success across the years installing linux as the only operating system on a n810? | 01:58 |
Wizzup | n810 came preinstalled with linux | 02:12 |
Wizzup | on the n900 front, I'm running gentoo on my phone at home, on a 4.1.0+ kernel | 02:13 |
t4nk303 | of course, but im not quite fond of maemo. i'd just like a command line interface when I boot it up, sure i can just autostart debian chroot but that's not the same thing | 02:16 |
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AndChat297600 | 很好 | 05:01 |
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AndChat297600 | Li | 05:47 |
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buZz | lol @ li | 06:21 |
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parazyd | Wizzup: tried both pali's latest (v4.6) and mainline linux (v4.8) | 11:08 |
parazyd | still unlucky with booting. maybe it's just my device | 11:08 |
parazyd | i used rx51_defconfig and omap2plus_defconfig (just changed the cmdline to yours) | 11:09 |
Wizzup | uh | 11:10 |
Wizzup | hm | 11:10 |
Wizzup | did you diff the generated configs? | 11:10 |
Wizzup | I'd do make oldconfig from my prev config | 11:10 |
Wizzup | and then diff it | 11:10 |
parazyd | hmm ok, i'll try | 11:11 |
Wizzup | I'm going to do it somewhere today as well | 11:16 |
Wizzup | also, do you create a uImage as well? | 11:16 |
parazyd | yep | 11:17 |
parazyd | i'm setting up your config to build for arm-sdk so i'll see what happens | 11:17 |
Wizzup | I compile on my laptop :p | 11:31 |
Wizzup | I'm also considering getting another chromebook at some point - the one with nvidia tetra k1 | 11:32 |
parazyd | nice | 11:34 |
parazyd | i only tried the acer chromebook | 11:34 |
parazyd | quite decent | 11:34 |
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Wizzup | I think that is the acer one | 11:38 |
parazyd | Wizzup: yes i think so too | 11:46 |
parazyd | it's this one https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices | 11:46 |
parazyd | oh, wrong paste | 11:46 |
parazyd | https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/acer-cb5-311-chromebook-13 | 11:46 |
parazyd | this | 11:46 |
Wizzup | that one, yeah. | 11:47 |
parazyd | it's good but the battery went to hell | 11:47 |
parazyd | now it doesn't last for 5 minutes without being plugged in | 11:47 |
Wizzup | a friend of mine had exactly the same | 11:48 |
Wizzup | he returned it within the warranty | 11:48 |
parazyd | Wizzup: no luck. i've still the same issue. comes to "freeing unused kernel memory" and just turns off after 10 seconds | 12:24 |
parazyd | used your config and accepted defaults for (NEW) | 12:24 |
Wizzup | parazyd: ha! | 12:28 |
Wizzup | parazyd: you need the watchdog module | 12:28 |
Wizzup | at least, that is what it sounds like | 12:28 |
parazyd | they all seem to be set | 12:29 |
Wizzup | right, but have you installed it/them? | 12:29 |
Wizzup | If they are build as module... you need the modules | 12:30 |
Wizzup | And they should be loadable at the start - which may be tricky if you have an encrypted root | 12:30 |
Wizzup | (in which case it should be either not build as module, or modules should be provided in the initramfs) | 12:30 |
Wizzup | actually, hm | 12:30 |
Wizzup | what you describe seems like the kernel not booting properly, and then the watchdog will kick in, so maybe that is not an issue | 12:31 |
Wizzup | ok, give me some time to try a newer kernel today | 12:31 |
Wizzup | p.s. Pali's latest seems to be https://github.com/pali/linux-n900/tree/v4.7-rc4-n900 | 12:31 |
parazyd | http://sprunge.us/UjWO | 12:31 |
parazyd | i was trying mainline 4.8 | 12:31 |
parazyd | will try pali's now | 12:32 |
Wizzup | bbiab | 12:33 |
Pali | do you need CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT? | 12:34 |
Pali | in that case make sure that some watchdog kicker daemon is running | 12:34 |
Pali | otherwise you will get device reboot after 30s | 12:34 |
parazyd | Pali: not sure, using Wizzup's config. i'll try without | 12:37 |
Pali | it depends on your userspace configuration | 12:37 |
Pali | init daemons, etc... | 12:37 |
Pali | e.g. Maemo has dsme which with module for watchdogs autokicking | 12:39 |
Pali | on Debian is package watchdog with watchdog daemon which do same think... | 12:39 |
Wizzup | Pali: I think the problem he is experiencing is not actually related to the watchdog | 12:54 |
Wizzup | parazyd: do you have my kernel still? can you try it with my kernel? | 12:55 |
Wizzup | Pali: That is, I had a feeling that the kernels he compiled didn't get very far booting, so it's not like it fails randomly during agetty being visible | 12:55 |
parazyd | Wizzup: yeah fails very early | 12:56 |
parazyd | i have your 4.5.0rc5 | 12:56 |
parazyd | i'll try | 12:57 |
parazyd | just want to try 4.6 now, as it finished compiling | 12:57 |
Wizzup | If that one fails, then maybe your rootfs is not OK | 12:57 |
Maxdamantus | You can always disable the watchdog by putting the device in R&D mode. | 12:58 |
parazyd | it's tough to debug it | 12:58 |
Maxdamantus | well, and setting the flags that say the watchdogs are disabled in that mode. | 12:58 |
Wizzup | I don't think that the watchdog is the problem. | 13:00 |
Maxdamantus | It might be related. | 13:00 |
Maxdamantus | My root filesystem takes far longer to mount that it would take fo the watchdog to kick in. | 13:01 |
Wizzup | It's very obvious when the watchdog kicks in - I've had it happen during openrc booting. It takes at least 30s. | 13:01 |
Maxdamantus | (on 2.6.28) | 13:01 |
Wizzup | and since my kernel has the watchdog compiled in the kernel, it should be fine | 13:01 |
Wizzup | (I have it working fine, and I don't have extra userspace tools for it afaik) | 13:01 |
Wizzup | but I do have NOWAYOUT=y | 13:02 |
Maxdamantus | I vaguely seem to remember thinking that the kernel didn't ping the watchdog during mounts under some version. | 13:03 |
Maxdamantus | Maybe in 2.6.28 | 13:03 |
Wizzup | We're talking about 4.5 | 13:03 |
Maxdamantus | (unless you ran something in userspace) | 13:03 |
Maxdamantus | I don't know what versions I'm talking about. | 13:04 |
Maxdamantus | It's just something I think I've experienced. Presumably there are reasons for those flags. | 13:04 |
Maxdamantus | afk | 13:05 |
Wizzup | some day I want to load grub for fun, from the u-boot | 13:05 |
Wizzup | luke-jr: I think you asked about the mainline blog post, getting closer now. doing a 'start by flashing n900 to mainline on n900' post now | 13:05 |
Wizzup | Pali: would you recommend using your 4.6-rc4 or your 4.7-rc4? | 13:06 |
Pali | sorry do not know now | 13:06 |
Wizzup | will try 4.7 first | 13:06 |
Wizzup | It would be good to know eventually how much your kernel is still different from the kernel.org mainline one | 13:07 |
parazyd | Wizzup: you have 4.8 from before? | 13:08 |
Wizzup | I haven't tried/compiled 4.8 yet | 13:08 |
parazyd | Wizzup: freemangordon mentioned almost all pali's stuff was upstreamed | 13:08 |
parazyd | Wizzup: i think something's not right with my device. your kernel doesn't manage to boot either. it goes further in the boot process though, then rgb stripes all over the screen and dies | 13:16 |
parazyd | last message is sshd urandom read | 13:17 |
Pali | not everything yet | 13:18 |
Pali | see: http://elinux.org/N900 | 13:19 |
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Wizzup | parazyd: I have a few spare N900 devices, and I have a sd card that works. Easy to verify if your device is messed up. | 13:39 |
parazyd | we can see at TI wednesday i guess | 13:39 |
Wizzup | yeah, I was thinking over going over today to play with openocd and the cortex-m debuggers, but not sure if I have the time | 13:40 |
freemangordon | Pali: is there something missing besides BT, DSP, cameras and SGX? | 13:56 |
freemangordon | Pali: iirc everything else is in 4.8 | 13:56 |
Pali | freemangordon: support for disabling input device (touchscreen) | 13:56 |
freemangordon | well, ok, but devices support is there | 13:57 |
freemangordon | the migt be some glitches, but still | 13:57 |
Pali | fm radio receiver | 13:57 |
freemangordon | *might | 13:57 |
Pali | but that depends on bt | 13:57 |
freemangordon | a prt of BT | 13:57 |
freemangordon | *part | 13:57 |
freemangordon | yes | 13:57 |
freemangordon | I can't remember anything else | 13:57 |
Pali | and maybe some alsa input/switches | 13:57 |
Pali | but do not know now | 13:57 |
freemangordon | ok, but all those are details, which should not matter much in xase of devuan | 13:58 |
freemangordon | the fuck, what's with my fingers today | 13:58 |
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Pali | freemangordon: wifi bt coex mode | 13:59 |
Pali | and wifi permanent mac address | 13:59 |
Pali | musb host mode support | 14:00 |
freemangordon | hmm, yeah. what was the last status for wifi/bt coexist mode? | 14:00 |
freemangordon | do you remember> | 14:00 |
freemangordon | ? | 14:00 |
Pali | maintainers are not happy with sysfs attribute | 14:01 |
Pali | even if exactly same is for wl127x driver | 14:01 |
freemangordon | and they want it implemented how? | 14:01 |
Pali | netlink | 14:01 |
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freemangordon | hmm, this is above my level I guess | 14:01 |
Pali | = totally incompatible with Maemo + totally incompatible with all other drivers | 14:01 |
Pali | every other driver has either sysfs attribute or module parameter | 14:02 |
freemangordon | and they are not happy with module parameter either? | 14:02 |
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Pali | iirc not | 14:02 |
freemangordon | I see | 14:03 |
Pali | and I do not see reason to implement third different method for bt coex | 14:03 |
Pali | which will be used only by one driver | 14:03 |
freemangordon | so we will keep that patch out-of-tree? | 14:03 |
Pali | probably.. | 14:03 |
freemangordon | makes sense | 14:03 |
Pali | maybe we can start discussion again how to solve both those problems (how to set permanent mac address and confiure bt coex from userspace) | 14:04 |
freemangordon | I guess first we need BT driver in some form | 14:05 |
Pali | it does not depend on bt driver | 14:05 |
freemangordon | ok | 14:05 |
Pali | it is feature of wifi firmware | 14:05 |
freemangordon | well, lets start the discussion again then. But please, be polite on the ML :p | 14:06 |
Pali | then maybe you can start it :-) | 14:06 |
freemangordon | BTW, what has happened with your USB friend? how was his name... | 14:06 |
freemangordon | Pali: no, I lack the details for that | 14:06 |
Pali | btcoex is easy, to support both bt & wifi at same time you need to activate btcoex feature of wl1251 | 14:07 |
Pali | and code is already here | 14:07 |
Pali | permanent mac address: it is stored in CAL and currently we have userspace CAL NAND parser which can read it and do something with it | 14:08 |
Pali | which means we need interface to set permanent mac address from userspace for wlan0 | 14:08 |
freemangordon | can't we read CAL from the kernel? | 14:09 |
Pali | and it is stupid to implement proprietary Nokia's CAL format in kernel | 14:09 |
freemangordon | I know, but still | 14:09 |
Pali | and have it in kernel just for one device | 14:09 |
Pali | we have GPLv3 code | 14:09 |
Pali | which is incompatible with kernel's GPLv2 | 14:09 |
Pali | do clean room reimplementation would be needed | 14:10 |
freemangordon | libcal code is mine, I ca relicense it as much as I like | 14:10 |
Pali | plus lot of other stuff... | 14:10 |
freemangordon | *can | 14:10 |
Pali | I doubt that kernel's dev accept such horrible thing in kernel just for one device... | 14:10 |
freemangordon | iirc there was such an idea from the maintainers | 14:11 |
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freemangordon | Pali: but yes, you are right, lets restart the discussion ane what the winds are | 14:11 |
freemangordon | /s/ane/and see/ | 14:12 |
freemangordon | ~ping | 14:12 |
infobot | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss | 14:12 |
Pali | if every one device starts implementing its own format in kernel, then there will be 100 different formats... | 14:12 |
Pali | s/... without leading slash | 14:12 |
freemangordon | Pali: sure, I agree | 14:12 |
freemangordon | yeah, it seems today is my typo day | 14:13 |
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Wizzup | Pali: regarding musb host mode, do you have that working in your kernel? | 14:50 |
Pali | Wizzup: no | 14:51 |
Wizzup | okay | 14:51 |
Pali | but I think it should be already supported | 14:51 |
Wizzup | ok, last time I tried it did not manage to get it to work | 14:51 |
Pali | we just needs to export musb registers via /sys/kernel/debug | 14:52 |
Wizzup | I'll try to do it again in some time in the future | 14:52 |
Wizzup | I see | 14:52 |
Pali | in my tree there is patch for it | 14:52 |
Wizzup | ok, I have a 4.5.0-rc5 kernel from your repo. I can try it again | 14:57 |
Sicelo | ~tabletsdev | 14:58 |
infobot | hmm... tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 14:58 |
Sicelo | ~flasher | 14:58 |
infobot | i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 14:58 |
freemangordon | Wizzup: use newer, 4.5 has a nasty onenand bug | 15:01 |
Wizzup | alright, will go for a newer one | 15:02 |
freemangordon | Wizzup: what distro are you going to use? | 15:03 |
Wizzup | well, I have a phone right now with gentoo on it (for several months), I decided to turn it on again and just let it be on my wifi on a public v4, run some containers on it for fun | 15:04 |
Wizzup | I picked gentoo specifically for easy driver support/testing | 15:04 |
Wizzup | I've given parazyd that setup, and I think he's working on getting devuan to work on that | 15:05 |
freemangordon | I am asking becuse I just build vanilla 4.8 wit rx51_defconfig and booted devuan to login | 15:05 |
Wizzup | That's sweet! | 15:05 |
freemangordon | now I only need for somebody to tell me how to bring wifi up :) | 15:06 |
freemangordon | assuming I can;t enter digits from the kbd | 15:06 |
Wizzup | well, presuming the interface is there and the firmware is loaded | 15:06 |
Wizzup | parazyd: poke | 15:07 |
freemangordon | hmm, no wlan0, I guess modules are not loaded | 15:07 |
freemangordon | lets see for the usb0 | 15:07 |
Wizzup | freemangordon: if you can autocomplete, with ctrl+i you can autocomplete | 15:07 |
freemangordon | lemme try | 15:07 |
Wizzup | that sentence is weird, but I wanted to say that, if you are in a situation where you're typing something from the shell, and it can be autocompleted, then you can use ctrl+i as replacement for tab | 15:08 |
freemangordon | yeah, got it | 15:08 |
parazyd | freemangordon: bastard! :D | 15:09 |
parazyd | could my toolchain be borked in some way? | 15:09 |
freemangordon | could be | 15:09 |
Wizzup | parazyd: if you need some test devices, I can give you a few, would like to get them back at some point though | 15:09 |
Wizzup | I have several spares | 15:09 |
freemangordon | I am using gcc4.7.2 from maemo cssu-thumb scratchbox | 15:09 |
Wizzup | well, if he can't boot my 4.5.x kernel, something else may be up, since that used to work for him, afaik | 15:10 |
parazyd | Wizzup: not necessary, we can only try one or two at TI | 15:10 |
Wizzup | (that was made from a native atm system using gcc 4.7) | 15:10 |
Wizzup | s/atm/arm/ | 15:10 |
infobot | Wizzup meant: (that was made from a native arm system using gcc 4.7) | 15:10 |
parazyd | Wizzup: yes it did use to work, now it doesn't boot | 15:10 |
freemangordon | now, how to bring that wifi up dammit | 15:10 |
parazyd | freemangordon: ifconfig wlan0 up? | 15:11 |
Wizzup | dmesg | grep wl1251 # to see if firmware is loaded? | 15:11 |
parazyd | wpa_supplicant should be installed | 15:11 |
freemangordon | guys, I don't have any special symbol on the kbd | 15:11 |
freemangordon | ;) | 15:11 |
Wizzup | freemangordon: do you have access to the rootfs | 15:12 |
Wizzup | (sd card) | 15:12 |
freemangordon | Wizzup: sure | 15:12 |
Wizzup | what I did was, take it out, touch /123456789|<> | 15:12 |
Wizzup | and then use autocomplete + arrows + backspace to get the right symbols | 15:12 |
Wizzup | *shrug* it's painful | 15:12 |
freemangordon | yep, I'd prefer to load n900 keymap | 15:12 |
Wizzup | well, touch /aaa123456789|<> | 15:12 |
Wizzup | let me see if I already did that somewhere... | 15:12 |
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freemangordon | lemme try to find it in rescueos image | 15:13 |
Wizzup | you can do loadkeys on rx51_us.map | 15:13 |
Wizzup | I have that file here... | 15:13 |
Wizzup | let me know if you can't find it, then I can upload it | 15:13 |
freemangordon | ]I have n900 keymap from rescueos | 15:14 |
parazyd | freemangordon: could you share your kernel and modules for me to try? | 15:14 |
freemangordon | parazyd: sure, just a second | 15:14 |
freemangordon | parazyd: http://46.249.74.23/devuan/kernel-n900/ | 15:16 |
parazyd | thanks! | 15:17 |
freemangordon | np | 15:17 |
freemangordon | parazyd: how to autoload n900 keymap? | 15:18 |
parazyd | /etc/profile ? | 15:18 |
freemangordon | parazyd: ok :) | 15:18 |
freemangordon | parazyd: also, what is the preferred way to contribute to the sdk? | 15:19 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: shall I create a user on git.devuan.org and fork and...? | 15:19 |
parazyd | keymap not included :) | 15:20 |
parazyd | you can if you wish | 15:20 |
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parazyd | there is also on https://github.org/dyne/arm-sdk | 15:20 |
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freemangordon | ah, github | 15:20 |
parazyd | if you prefer | 15:20 |
parazyd | for me it's the same | 15:20 |
freemangordon | yeah, I prefer :) | 15:20 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: could you elaborate on "(15,19,59) parazyd: keymap not included :)"? was that pointed to me? | 15:21 |
Wizzup | (awesome to see the devuan work - going afk for a bit) | 15:21 |
freemangordon | parazyd: you want n900 keymap as well? | 15:22 |
parazyd | freemangordon: yes, and yes | 15:22 |
freemangordon | oh, sorry, ok | 15:22 |
parazyd | freemangordon: and i'm still experiencing the same issue with your kernel :/ | 15:22 |
freemangordon | what is the issue? | 15:23 |
freemangordon | parazyd: http://46.249.74.23/devuan/ | 15:23 |
parazyd | freeing unused kernel memory... 10 seconds ... poweroff | 15:23 |
freemangordon | parazyd: switch the device to RnD mode | 15:23 |
parazyd | thanks for the keymap | 15:23 |
freemangordon | with the flasher, change rd flags for no watchdogs etc | 15:24 |
freemangordon | yay, even reboot seems to work under devuan :) | 15:25 |
parazyd | freemangordon: how do i change the flags? i don't know how to do it with 0xffff | 15:25 |
parazyd | ah | 15:26 |
parazyd | found it :) | 15:26 |
freemangordon | use flasher-3.5 | 15:26 |
freemangordon | no idea about 0xffff | 15:26 |
freemangordon | parazyd: is there a way to change the default keymap during image building? keyboard-configuration or somesuch? | 15:30 |
parazyd | yes it's possible to script it | 15:30 |
parazyd | arm-sdk/boards/nokia-n900.sh | 15:30 |
parazyd | can be added either in prebuild() or postbuild() | 15:31 |
freemangordon | ok, lets first make a fork on github to see if image would build here | 15:32 |
parazyd | query me if you need help using | 15:34 |
freemangordon | ok | 15:34 |
parazyd | disabling RnD on mine doesn't help | 15:36 |
freemangordon | does it boot maemo? | 15:37 |
parazyd | yep | 15:37 |
parazyd | kernel power and vanilla | 15:37 |
freemangordon | also, what is u-boot version you use? | 15:37 |
parazyd | 2013.04 | 15:38 |
freemangordon | parazyd: also, is you battery charged and in good condition? | 15:38 |
parazyd | yeah | 15:39 |
freemangordon | weird | 15:39 |
parazyd | i can charge another and try though | 15:39 |
freemangordon | lemme get the flags on my device to compare with yours | 15:39 |
freemangordon | parazyd: http://pastebin.com/WZX59jvm | 15:41 |
parazyd | nope, with those fails as well | 15:43 |
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freemangordon | doing power off is weird | 15:45 |
freemangordon | do you have anything in mtdlog partition? | 15:45 |
parazyd | i'm starting over | 15:45 |
parazyd | flashing vanilla | 15:45 |
freemangordon | should not matter | 15:46 |
freemangordon | devuan and kernel does not touch onenand | 15:46 |
freemangordon | ooh, I have dmesg log in /var/log/, sweet, now I can check what is loaded | 15:47 |
parazyd | yeah i realize | 15:47 |
parazyd | i got xorg working on devuan even | 15:47 |
parazyd | (before) | 15:47 |
parazyd | was only missing 3d accel though | 15:48 |
parazyd | i'd kill for those blobs :D | 15:48 |
freemangordon | wait, there should be driver from TI | 15:48 |
parazyd | yeah i had no real luck with it | 15:48 |
freemangordon | which is supposed to work | 15:48 |
freemangordon | really? | 15:48 |
parazyd | but perhaps someone more experienced can make it work | 15:48 |
freemangordon | hmm | 15:48 |
freemangordon | well, I'll take a look when we reach that point | 15:49 |
freemangordon | parazyd: what is your device HW revision? | 15:49 |
parazyd | 2204 | 15:49 |
freemangordon | same here, so it MUST work :) | 15:50 |
parazyd | i've really no idea why this is happening | 15:50 |
freemangordon | parazyd: http://pastebin.com/p7kFje8U | 15:51 |
parazyd | :) | 15:52 |
freemangordon | Pali: isn't wl1251 driver supposed to be auto-loaded? | 15:52 |
Pali | it is | 15:52 |
parazyd | not in my devuan image yet | 15:52 |
parazyd | you sould add it to /etc/modules | 15:52 |
parazyd | echo wl1251 >> /etc/modules | 15:53 |
Pali | you need also wl1251_spi | 15:53 |
Pali | IIRC | 15:53 |
Pali | it should have DT modinfo | 15:53 |
Pali | so based on DT alias it is loaded | 15:53 |
freemangordon | hmm, maybe I should do depmod -a? | 15:54 |
freemangordon | from within booted devuan when I change the kernel? | 15:54 |
freemangordon | Pali: ^^^? | 15:54 |
buZz | cant hurt | 15:55 |
Pali | depmod is needed after installation | 15:55 |
Pali | but someting like modules install calls it | 15:55 |
parazyd | there is make modules_install | 15:55 |
parazyd | yes | 15:55 |
freemangordon | when building image yes, but I just copied 4.8 modules on the sdcard :) | 15:56 |
jon_y | whoa linux 4.8 for N900? | 16:06 |
freemangordon | mhm | 16:06 |
buZz | is N900 is mainline? | 16:07 |
buZz | in* | 16:07 |
freemangordon | sure | 16:07 |
buZz | nice | 16:08 |
jon_y | I suppose everything except modem/telephony | 16:08 |
buZz | nobody needs those :P | 16:08 |
freemangordon | well, not exactly - cameras, BT, DSP and SGX are missing, while modem is supported :) | 16:08 |
jon_y | rip phone | 16:08 |
xy2_ | &1& | 16:10 |
freemangordon | parazyd: there is no loadkma in devuan, as it is part of busybox, any idea how to loda that keymap? | 16:10 |
freemangordon | *loadkmap | 16:10 |
parazyd | loadkeys | 16:11 |
freemangordon | not found, I guess I need package installed | 16:11 |
parazyd | /usr/bin/loadkeys | 16:11 |
parazyd | apt-get install kbd | 16:12 |
parazyd | try that | 16:12 |
freemangordon | no way - there is no '-' symbol and network ;) | 16:12 |
freemangordon | I need to include that in the image | 16:12 |
parazyd | add it to the extra_packages array in the script | 16:13 |
freemangordon | ok | 16:13 |
parazyd | also add the wifi modules to custmodules then | 16:13 |
parazyd | space separated | 16:13 |
freemangordon | no need to do it, depmod fixed it | 16:14 |
parazyd | ah ok | 16:14 |
freemangordon | any common place in the sdk for device specific files? | 16:14 |
freemangordon | where to put n900 keymap in | 16:14 |
parazyd | make a n900 dir in extra/ | 16:15 |
parazyd | then call it as $R/extra/n900/n900.kmap from the script | 16:15 |
freemangordon | ok, thanks | 16:15 |
parazyd | oh my! vanilla maemo. haven't seen this in a while | 16:16 |
parazyd | gonna put a fresh uboot and see where it goes | 16:16 |
buZz | what are you guys doing anyway? putting devuan on a N900? | 16:16 |
parazyd | yeah | 16:17 |
buZz | nice | 16:19 |
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buZz | get it ready, i'll have a N900 soonish ;) | 16:20 |
CatButts | same I hope | 16:20 |
CatButts | but I'd rather something tried and tested | 16:21 |
CatButts | I'll stick to Maemo | 16:21 |
buZz | should port as many maemo parts away from maemo and into n900-devuan ;) | 16:21 |
buZz | as possible | 16:21 |
CatButts | also, from what I remember, the N900/maemo don't have proper OpenGL, yes? | 16:22 |
buZz | neither does maemo ;) | 16:22 |
buZz | only OpenGLES , i would assum | 16:22 |
buZz | e | 16:22 |
freemangordon | yep, gles2 | 16:22 |
CatButts | I was thinking of SDL2 | 16:22 |
CatButts | that might be obstacle in porting it, I think | 16:23 |
buZz | libsdl2 is in devuan :) | 16:23 |
CatButts | ok, you have my interest | 16:23 |
CatButts | hahahahaha | 16:23 |
buZz | doubt you can find any linux distro without that really | 16:23 |
buZz | but i guess many maemo parts lack source | 16:24 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: how to add rx51_defconfig to the sdk, besides copying it in kernel-configs dir? | 16:51 |
freemangordon | I can't figure out what is the "sdk" way of copying it to kernel source directory | 16:52 |
freemangordon | oh, got it | 16:57 |
freemangordon | it should be called n900.config | 16:58 |
parazyd | yeah | 17:00 |
parazyd | see lib/helpers | 17:00 |
parazyd | copy-kernel-config | 17:01 |
freemangordon | yeah, saw it | 17:01 |
parazyd | cool | 17:01 |
freemangordon | trying to build it now, for 4.8.1 stable | 17:01 |
freemangordon | oh, I forgot to reload the build script after modifying it :( | 17:02 |
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parazyd | freemangordon: going well? | 17:12 |
freemangordon | still rough on the edges, will needs some more time :) | 17:13 |
freemangordon | it turned out copy-kernel-config needs to be called explicitly :) | 17:14 |
freemangordon | also, console-config wants me to select keyboard :) | 17:15 |
freemangordon | well, keyboard-configuration that is | 17:15 |
parazyd | is it possible for me to connect in a tmux and see? | 17:15 |
parazyd | i can show you what to do exactly | 17:15 |
freemangordon | I already figured it out | 17:16 |
parazyd | ok | 17:16 |
parazyd | add -E to any sudo calls that chroot or do something in the rootfs | 17:17 |
parazyd | it will export necessary env vars | 17:17 |
freemangordon | but now it seems kernel make doesn't like my rx51_defconfig, it seems it is not the .config it expects | 17:17 |
parazyd | you should use a complete config | 17:18 |
parazyd | or | 17:18 |
parazyd | copy n900.config to arch/arm/configs/rx51_defconfig and call it that way | 17:18 |
freemangordon | well, I copied it, did make rx51_defconfig and copied the resulted .config back to kernel-configs directory as n900.config. That should do the job, no? | 17:21 |
parazyd | yep | 17:21 |
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freemangordon | trying it | 17:21 |
freemangordon | parazyd: ok, kompiles compiles | 17:23 |
freemangordon | *kernel compiles | 17:23 |
parazyd | nice | 17:25 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: hmm, I don;t see uImage copied anywhere, weird | 17:36 |
parazyd | it should be either in /root or /boot | 17:36 |
freemangordon | there is "sudo cp $CPVERBOSE uImage $strapdir/root/" | 17:36 |
freemangordon | no, it is not there | 17:36 |
parazyd | if not, i think you're using the master branc | 17:36 |
parazyd | i have 2-3 branches | 17:37 |
freemangordon | yes, which branch shall I use? | 17:37 |
parazyd | wait, letmesee | 17:37 |
parazyd | next | 17:37 |
parazyd | here's my current version on my machine | 17:38 |
parazyd | http://sprunge.us/YDUQ | 17:38 |
freemangordon | hmm, no such branch on github | 17:38 |
parazyd | ok let me commit what i have then i'll push | 17:39 |
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freemangordon | ok, thanks | 17:39 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: where is upstream git repo? | 17:39 |
freemangordon | (I lost the address) | 17:39 |
parazyd | my real upstream is git://git.parazyd.cf/arm-sdk.git | 17:40 |
parazyd | but anyway | 17:40 |
parazyd | branch is now pushed to GH | 17:41 |
freemangordon | ok | 17:41 |
freemangordon | parazyd: hmm, uImage is supposed to be copied in /, not in /root | 17:50 |
freemangordon | unless i am missing something | 17:50 |
parazyd | yes i remember, this was before we talked about it :) | 17:50 |
parazyd | change it to /boot | 17:50 |
freemangordon | ah, ok | 17:50 |
freemangordon | boot is vfat partition? | 17:51 |
parazyd | /boot is the root of mmcblk0p1 | 17:51 |
parazyd | yes | 17:51 |
freemangordon | ok | 17:51 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: it boots :), now I need some help on how to set default keymap | 18:00 |
parazyd | add "loadkeys /path/to/keymap" to /etc/profile | 18:02 |
freemangordon | loadkeys does not like the keymap file :( | 18:02 |
parazyd | hmm why? | 18:02 |
freemangordon | "syntax error" | 18:02 |
freemangordon | parazyd: it is binary keymap :) | 18:03 |
freemangordon | so I guess I need loadkeys -b | 18:04 |
parazyd | probably | 18:04 |
freemangordon | hmm, no, it *kreates* a binary keymap | 18:05 |
freemangordon | *creates | 18:05 |
parazyd | so what about loadkmap? | 18:06 |
freemangordon | it is part of busybox iiuc | 18:06 |
freemangordon | and there is no bb in devuan installed | 18:06 |
parazyd | try installing busybox, loading the keymap and then try to dump it with dumpkeys maybe? | 18:08 |
parazyd | see dumpkeys(1) | 18:09 |
freemangordon | hmm, right | 18:10 |
freemangordon | or I can do it directly from maemo | 18:11 |
freemangordon | no dumpkeys in maemo | 18:12 |
parazyd | freemangordon: sorry was having dinner | 18:37 |
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parazyd | here's dumpkeys from maemo: http://sprunge.us/RICi | 18:38 |
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parazyd | now you can have < > instead of pound and euro sign :) | 18:38 |
parazyd | also add the pipe char somewere | 18:38 |
freemangordon | parazyd: I have that already, sorry for not telling you :) | 18:41 |
freemangordon | I was trying to bring wlan1 up | 18:42 |
parazyd | mmm yeah i need to put in the udev hack | 18:42 |
parazyd | because wlanX will keep ++ | 18:42 |
freemangordon | what is the problem with that ++? | 18:49 |
parazyd | wifi changes mac address on every boot | 18:51 |
parazyd | so udev increments the number because it looks like a new device | 18:51 |
freemangordon | this is problem with the driver, we discussed it with pali ^^^ | 18:52 |
parazyd | echo "#" > /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules | 18:54 |
parazyd | this is the solution | 18:54 |
parazyd | yes the driver generates a new address every boot, as mentioned | 18:55 |
freemangordon | parazyd: where to put keymap file? | 19:00 |
parazyd | in /usr/share/keymaps/dir-of-choice | 19:01 |
freemangordon | no such dir exists, also it is for text keymaps, not binary | 19:01 |
freemangordon | as busybox seems to be installed anyway, I'd better skip kbd package | 19:02 |
parazyd | ok, in any case i can play with it later | 19:02 |
freemangordon | and use "busybox loadkmap < $kmap" from a script in /etc/profile.d | 19:02 |
parazyd | sounds good | 19:03 |
freemangordon | I will do it, the only thing I am missing is where to place that kmap file | 19:03 |
parazyd | maybe simply in /etc | 19:04 |
parazyd | or /root/ | 19:04 |
freemangordon | "/etc" seems better. will place it there | 19:04 |
parazyd | ack | 19:07 |
freemangordon | parazyd: https://github.com/dyne/arm-sdk/pull/1 | 19:26 |
parazyd | freemangordon: fantastic! merged :) big thanks! | 19:31 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: does it refuse to boot on your device still? | 19:32 |
parazyd | i will build yours now and see | 19:33 |
freemangordon | parazyd: also, which packages do I need in order to try to bring X up? | 19:33 |
freemangordon | only lxde working? | 19:33 |
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parazyd | xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-omap xserver-xorg-input-evdev xinit should do the trick | 19:35 |
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parazyd | xserver-xorg-video-fbdev also won't hurt | 19:36 |
freemangordon | ok, lemme first try to connect to my home wifi :) | 19:38 |
freemangordon | parazyd: no wl1251 firmware? | 19:42 |
parazyd | hmm? it's there in the config | 19:43 |
parazyd | the driver. you need separate firmware? | 19:44 |
freemangordon | yep, firmware-ti-connectivity deb it seems :) | 19:44 |
parazyd | that exists only in testing | 19:45 |
parazyd | rather include it manuall | 19:45 |
freemangordon | how? | 19:45 |
freemangordon | put it in extra? | 19:46 |
parazyd | yeah | 19:46 |
parazyd | get it from fremantle | 19:46 |
freemangordon | no such package there iirc | 19:46 |
freemangordon | I can get firmware files though | 19:47 |
freemangordon | Pali: is wl1251 nvs fw device specific? | 19:47 |
parazyd | wl1251-firmware | 19:47 |
Pali | no, device specific | 19:47 |
freemangordon | Pali: hmm? | 19:47 |
Pali | not firmware, but device specific | 19:47 |
parazyd | the meego package should be used if possible | 19:48 |
parazyd | their license permits redist | 19:48 |
freemangordon | Pali: every device has different nvs? | 19:48 |
Pali | yes | 19:48 |
parazyd | OR | 19:48 |
Pali | nvs is stored in CAL | 19:48 |
freemangordon | ah | 19:48 |
parazyd | i'll just include the debian .deb | 19:48 |
Pali | wl1251-fw.bin -> firmware | 19:48 |
Pali | wl1251-nvs.bin -> device calibration data | 19:48 |
Pali | wl1251-fw.bin in linux-firmware repository exists and contains "example" file | 19:49 |
Pali | s/wl1251-fw.bin/wl1251-nvs.bin/ | 19:49 |
infobot | Pali meant: wl1251-nvs.bin in linux-firmware repository exists and contains "example" file | 19:49 |
freemangordon | Pali: are you sure? as what I see on my device is that nvs file has the same date as fw file | 19:49 |
Pali | it is not used | 19:49 |
Pali | wl1251-nvs.bin is "example" file | 19:50 |
freemangordon | aah, I see | 19:50 |
Pali | wl1251_cal reads REAL data from CAL and send it to kernel driver | 19:50 |
freemangordon | ok | 19:50 |
Pali | but... only on maemo kernel | 19:50 |
freemangordon | I guess we'll need to build that for devuan | 19:50 |
freemangordon | yeah | 19:50 |
Pali | upstream kernel does not have support for loading via maemo specific interface | 19:50 |
freemangordon | missing interface in the upstream? | 19:50 |
freemangordon | right | 19:51 |
Pali | but upstream kernel can load wl1251-nvs.bin via firmware_request function | 19:51 |
freemangordon | ok, so we can generate it on-the-fly? | 19:51 |
Pali | and so you can hook up udev to supply own script which provide those data | 19:51 |
Pali | instead reading it from disk | 19:52 |
freemangordon | can;t we just write the file with the data from CAL? | 19:52 |
Pali | it is stupid to oeverwrite files in /lib/.... to something device specific | 19:52 |
freemangordon | I guess we can ln it to a file in /var and create that file if it doesn;t exist | 19:53 |
freemangordon | or just create it in /lib on the very first boot | 19:53 |
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Pali | correct way is to write that udev script | 19:54 |
Pali | which read nvs data from cal and then send them it to kernel | 19:54 |
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freemangordon | ok, ok :) | 19:54 |
Pali | parser is already written: https://github.com/community-ssu/wl1251-cal | 19:55 |
freemangordon | parazyd: what is the "politically correct" way to include device specific packages in devuan? | 19:56 |
parazyd | you mean custom debs? | 19:56 |
freemangordon | parazyd: also, is building packages a part of the sdk? | 19:56 |
freemangordon | parazyd: yes | 19:56 |
freemangordon | see ^^^ | 19:57 |
parazyd | i had it implemented in legacy branch, but not yet in master/next where i'm now using libdevuansdk (which i'm also writing) | 19:57 |
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parazyd | give me a few minues and i'll implement it | 19:57 |
parazyd | package building, not yet | 19:57 |
parazyd | but soom(tm) | 19:57 |
freemangordon | ok, but here it is supposed to be build? | 19:57 |
freemangordon | *where | 19:57 |
freemangordon | on the device itself? | 19:58 |
parazyd | you do it yourself i guess | 19:58 |
freemangordon | hmm, ok | 19:58 |
parazyd | the debian directory is already there | 19:58 |
freemangordon | parazyd: can't parse, could you elaborate on that debian dir? | 19:59 |
parazyd | https://github.com/community-ssu/wl1251-cal | 19:59 |
freemangordon | oh, sure | 19:59 |
parazyd | debian dir is the files needed | 19:59 |
freemangordon | yeah, got it now | 19:59 |
freemangordon | I know I can build that in maemo SDK, but what about devuan SDK? | 19:59 |
parazyd | not yet | 19:59 |
freemangordon | ok | 20:00 |
parazyd | i'm the only one writing the stuff, so time management isn't quite good :D | 20:00 |
freemangordon | I know ;) | 20:00 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: how to install a deb? | 20:08 |
parazyd | dpkg -i package.deb | 20:08 |
freemangordon | I mean - during image creaton :) | 20:08 |
parazyd | i'm implementing it right now | 20:09 |
freemangordon | oh, ok, sorry | 20:09 |
freemangordon | ok, wireless is up :) | 20:16 |
parazyd | nice | 20:17 |
freemangordon | parazyd: also, X seems to work, unfortunately there is no enough free space on /. How to make root bigger? | 20:34 |
parazyd | you should do it from maemo/your computer | 20:35 |
parazyd | unmount the root partition | 20:35 |
parazyd | repartition it with parted/cfdisk, resize2fs on the partition and finally e2fsck on the partition | 20:35 |
freemangordon | parazyd: I was asking about the image | 20:36 |
freemangordon | how to create an image with bigger ext4 partition | 20:36 |
parazyd | ah you want to include it when building? | 20:36 |
freemangordon | sure | 20:36 |
parazyd | just change the size variable | 20:36 |
parazyd | in the script | 20:36 |
parazyd | now is 666 | 20:37 |
parazyd | ;D | 20:37 |
freemangordon | hmm, good number :) | 20:37 |
parazyd | i pushed deb support btw | 20:37 |
freemangordon | great | 20:37 |
parazyd | just drop .deb files in extra/$device_name | 20:37 |
freemangordon | thanks, will do | 20:37 |
parazyd | update libdevuansdk also | 20:38 |
parazyd | git submodule update or whatever it's called | 20:38 |
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parazyd | freemangordon: the new image still doesn't boot for me. i'll see what's up when i meet Wizzup | 20:53 |
freemangordon | :( | 20:53 |
freemangordon | weird | 20:54 |
parazyd | yeah | 20:54 |
parazyd | dumb reason, could the sd card be too big? | 20:54 |
parazyd | it's 32G | 20:54 |
freemangordon | should not matter, though, who knows | 20:54 |
parazyd | yeah... i'll see wednesday and report back | 20:54 |
freemangordon | Wizzup: do you want me to upload devuan image for you to test if it boots on your device? | 20:55 |
xy2_ | hello | 20:55 |
freemangordon | parazyd: hmm, dropping the .deb in extra/n900 kade no change | 20:56 |
freemangordon | *made | 20:56 |
parazyd | did you pull the latest commit? | 20:58 |
freemangordon | yes | 20:58 |
parazyd | you should see install-custom-packages function | 20:58 |
freemangordon | at least I think so | 20:58 |
parazyd | yeah | 20:58 |
parazyd | hmm... | 20:58 |
freemangordon | lemme check | 20:58 |
freemangordon | hmm, no such function | 20:59 |
parazyd | pull again | 20:59 |
parazyd | from github | 20:59 |
parazyd | git pull && git submodule update did the trick for me on my server | 20:59 |
freemangordon | ah, I see, it is not "just drop .deb files in extra/$device_name", it seems I have to list them, right? | 21:00 |
freemangordon | or not | 21:01 |
parazyd | list? no | 21:02 |
parazyd | it's supposed to automagically find them | 21:02 |
parazyd | unless i missed something | 21:02 |
freemangordon | ok, I pulled again, seems it was still not pushed when I pull it early | 21:02 |
parazyd | it works | 21:05 |
parazyd | just tested | 21:05 |
freemangordon | yeah, seems your latest changes were not pulled 10 minutes ago, now everything seems in -place | 21:05 |
parazyd | cool | 21:05 |
freemangordon | will try to make an image with lxde pre-installed | 21:06 |
freemangordon | BTW for some reason TS y axis is inverted :) | 21:06 |
parazyd | freemangordon: here's Wizzup's advice http://sprunge.us/GJRh | 21:10 |
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freemangordon | yeah, makes sense | 21:10 |
parazyd | anything you wish, just drop in extra | 21:11 |
freemangordon | yep | 21:11 |
parazyd | i keep the dist images minimal, but everything can stay commented in the script | 21:11 |
parazyd | for ppl to have :) | 21:11 |
parazyd | sidenote, i tried a class 4 4GB microsd, still the same | 21:12 |
parazyd | it's some hardware issue now | 21:12 |
freemangordon | well, I think a tool to bring wireless up on n900 is a must | 21:12 |
parazyd | has to be | 21:12 |
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parazyd | add this to prebuild() to stop wlanX incrementing on boot btw: print "#" | sudo tee $strapdir/etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules | 21:14 |
freemangordon | ok | 21:14 |
parazyd | do you like this concept of the sdk in general? | 21:16 |
parazyd | i call it "simple distro kit" :) | 21:16 |
freemangordon | yes, the fact it took me less than an hour to build my first image (with upgraded kernel) means it is usefull | 21:17 |
freemangordon | it only lacks custom debs build functionality aiui | 21:17 |
parazyd | that will come | 21:18 |
parazyd | i'm still learning how to make debian packages | 21:18 |
* parazyd is not really a debian user | 21:18 | |
freemangordon | I can try to make devuan based maemo distro | 21:18 |
freemangordon | lxde install takes a while :D | 21:19 |
freemangordon | parazyd: BTW, who provides those funny notes while image is being build? | 21:23 |
parazyd | i got them from mailpile, then just reimplemented in shell :) | 21:24 |
parazyd | sometimes they're called | 21:24 |
parazyd | see bottom of lib/helpers | 21:25 |
freemangordon | ok | 21:25 |
parazyd | actually libdevuansdk/zlibs/helpers | 21:27 |
parazyd | sorry :D | 21:27 |
freemangordon | no problem, it is not important, I was just curious. Actually it is a very good idea to have some fun while waiting | 21:28 |
parazyd | heheh | 21:28 |
Wizzup | freemangordon: sure, I can test that | 21:31 |
Wizzup | lots of backlog to catch up with, too. might not manage to do it tonight | 21:31 |
freemangordon | ok, I will put it on my web server and will query you to test it when you have time | 21:32 |
freemangordon | parazyd: "install-custom-packages:14: command not found: install-custdebs" | 21:32 |
parazyd | you didn't do git submodule update | 21:33 |
freemangordon | I did | 21:34 |
freemangordon | helpers file is updated | 21:34 |
parazyd | O.o | 21:34 |
parazyd | what about libdevuansdk | 21:34 |
parazyd | did it checkout to origin? | 21:34 |
freemangordon | hmm, what? | 21:34 |
freemangordon | git submodule update --recursive --remote | 21:34 |
freemangordon | Skipping unmerged submodule lib/libdevuansdk | 21:34 |
freemangordon | what is that supposed to mean? | 21:34 |
parazyd | the commit should be d28e0a93f4561099adc6c270027ed3331ce44489 | 21:34 |
parazyd | i dunno | 21:35 |
parazyd | --recursive --remote isn't really necessary | 21:35 |
Wizzup | freemangordon: did you figure out how to load keys? | 21:40 |
freemangordon | Wizzup: yeah, through busybox | 21:41 |
freemangordon | though it doesn;t work in X | 21:41 |
freemangordon | parazyd: somehow I managed to update libdevuansdk to latest version | 21:42 |
Wizzup | yes, X is different | 21:42 |
parazyd | that's setxkbmap | 21:42 |
Wizzup | X needs its own mapping | 21:42 |
freemangordon | yeah | 21:42 |
parazyd | freemangordon: what was the reason? | 21:42 |
Wizzup | I didn't do that yet | 21:42 |
parazyd | s/reason/solution/ | 21:42 |
infobot | parazyd meant: freemangordon: what was the solution? | 21:42 |
freemangordon | no idea, some git weirdness | 21:42 |
freemangordon | aah | 21:42 |
freemangordon | git reset --hard on the submodule | 21:43 |
parazyd | /o\ | 21:43 |
freemangordon | git reset HEAD that is | 21:43 |
parazyd | ok :) | 21:43 |
freemangordon | and then git submodule update | 21:43 |
parazyd | anyway, it will do the thing if you `git pull && git submodule update` | 21:43 |
freemangordon | why it was thinking the submodule was modified is beyond my understanding :) | 21:43 |
parazyd | beats me | 21:44 |
parazyd | Wizzup: btw, if you ever feel like baking gentoo images, feel free to try out arm-sdk. should be a lot simpler to do gentoo than devuan actually | 21:44 |
parazyd | there is 12 devices already | 21:45 |
freemangordon | ok, custom .deb seems to be installed now | 21:46 |
parazyd | great | 21:46 |
Wizzup | parazyd: hm - what would I use it for? | 21:47 |
parazyd | don't know really. just a thought since you like to play with ARM boards | 21:48 |
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freemangordon | parazyd: lxde works :) | 22:58 |
parazyd | awesome :) | 22:58 |
parazyd | freemangordon: will you submit the wifi firmware blobs to the repo or should i? | 23:19 |
freemangordon | parazyd: I just installed firmware-ti-connectivity_0.43_all.deb | 23:20 |
parazyd | the one from debian? | 23:20 |
freemangordon | yes | 23:20 |
parazyd | all right. and modules autoloaded? | 23:20 |
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freemangordon | yes | 23:21 |
parazyd | cool :) many thanks for your work today! | 23:21 |
freemangordon | well, modules are auto-loaded without firmware as well, but when you try to connect with wpa_supplicant it complains because of the missing FW | 23:21 |
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