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| kerio | oh man | 12:48 |
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| kerio | the two screws that are visible on the back of the screen are like 100% rust | 12:49 |
| kerio | is that a common thing | 12:49 |
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| dkbrz | hi. i've got a stupid question. is it ok to run rescueOS from u-boot? instead of backupmenu. like mkimage and stuff? | 13:49 |
| L29Ah | it is ok | 13:49 |
| KotCzarny | rescueos is standalone | 13:49 |
| KotCzarny | so as long it boots, it runs | 13:49 |
| KotCzarny | and usually ran via usb flashing load | 13:49 |
| dkbrz | yes, i know | 13:50 |
| KotCzarny | *flasher | 13:50 |
| dkbrz | but for backup purposes with dd, i'd like to have it on-device | 13:50 |
| dkbrz | untill it breaks :) | 13:50 |
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| dkbrz | L29Ah: so, just converting both zImage and initrd from rescueOS release with mkimage to uImage format, placing both images to /opt/boot/ and crearing menu entry does the thing? | 13:57 |
| KotCzarny | its just a kernel with initd | 13:59 |
| KotCzarny | nothing magical | 13:59 |
| dkbrz | KotCzarny: these times you never know :) when robots coding robots coding robots, strange things may happen | 14:00 |
| dkbrz | and for initrd, mkinit load address and entry point options should be both 0? | 14:03 |
| dkbrz | s/mkinit/mkimage/ | 14:03 |
| infobot | dkbrz meant: and for initrd, mkimage load address and entry point options should be both 0? | 14:03 |
| KotCzarny | no need to set it specifically, so its either inside zimage or default | 14:04 |
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| dkbrz | hm | 14:32 |
| dkbrz | ** Unable to read file bootmenu.img.d/rescueOS-1.2-initrd.uImage | 14:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: rust? ohmy, no not common | 14:33 |
| dkbrz | ok, /opt/boot/ is not enough, bootmenu.img.d/ is in MyDocs, apparently... | 14:39 |
| dkbrz | but then it works like a charm | 14:40 |
| KotCzarny | dkbrz: do you have some bootmenu with that uboot? | 14:40 |
| dkbrz | yes, i have kernel-power | 14:40 |
| dkbrz | but it's only kernel | 14:41 |
| dkbrz | i did not have any examples with additional initrd images | 14:41 |
| dkbrz | now i did: | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | $ mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 80008000 -e 80008000 -n rescueOS-1.2-kernel -d n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/rescueOS_n900_kernel_1.2.zImage rescueOS-1.2-kernel.uImage | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | $ mkimage -A arm -O linux -T ramdisk -n rescueOS-1.2-initrd -d n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/rescueOS-1.2.img rescueOS-1.2-initrd.uImage | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | and created 99-rescueOS-1.2.item | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | containing: | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | ITEM_NAME="rescueOS-1.2" | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | ITEM_KERNEL="rescueOS-1.2-kernel.uImage" | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | ITEM_INITRD="rescueOS-1.2-initrd.uImage" | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | ITEM_CMDLINE="rootdelay root=/dev/ram0" | 14:42 |
| dkbrz | placed both images in /opt/boot | 14:43 |
| dkbrz | and it did not work | 14:43 |
| dkbrz | then copied both to MyDocs/bootmenu.img.d/ | 14:43 |
| dkbrz | and then it worked | 14:43 |
| Maxdamantus | That bootmenu thing seems unnecessarily complicated. | 14:48 |
| * Maxdamantus just uses this: https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/949e81b445ffaa068449 | 14:49 | |
| dkbrz | huh, python :) | 14:50 |
| Maxdamantus | It suffices, and is fairly portable. | 14:50 |
| Maxdamantus | Can run that boot.scr.py independently anywhere to create the boot.scr file. | 14:51 |
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| Maxdamantus | including from what I normally use as a rescue system: just a 3.14 kernel I've had for a while, and the old ubifs on NAND that I don't use anymore for my main system. | 14:52 |
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| Wizzup | Maxdamantus: I don't find the boot menu complicated at all | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | It's actually really simple | 14:54 |
| Maxdamantus | Compared to the first 14 lines of that Python program? | 14:55 |
| Wizzup | reinventing the wheel that is already round :) | 14:55 |
| dkbrz | hmm.. one more stupid question. i normally don't use n900 as a phone - only as pocket linux terminal. so, I use 3g radio only when I need connectivity. I disable it with dbus-dend com.nokia.phone.SSC.set_radio fo false, and enable it with true on demand. Question: what is the easiest way to boot n900 with 3G radio didsabled? | 15:01 |
| KotCzarny | if you have dbus-send then you can put it in startup scripts | 15:13 |
| KotCzarny | but easiest is installing tablet mode button in powerkey menu | 15:14 |
| dkbrz | does it preserve mode on boot? i think it uses the same dbus send, and how ever early it's in the scripts, modem still register to operator network befor you can use it... | 15:16 |
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| KotCzarny | add it to initrd then? | 15:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe there is much benefit in disabling the radio completely, maybe a small amount of battery if that's important | 15:21 |
| KotCzarny | swb: privacy? | 15:21 |
| dkbrz | sixwheeledbeast: i don't want to flash myself on the operator network every time i accidentially boot :) | 15:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast | i see | 15:22 |
| buZz | dkbrz: wrap it in tinfoil? :D | 15:22 |
| dkbrz | buZz: I'll consider it as an option | 15:23 |
| KotCzarny | buzz, tinfoil is overrated, 2cm wall of solid metal. | 15:23 |
| buZz | ^_^ | 15:23 |
| buZz | i'm misty on the details, is N900 ok if you just kill the modem completely? | 15:23 |
| KotCzarny | he still wants to use it occasionally | 15:23 |
| KotCzarny | so no | 15:23 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 15:23 |
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| buZz | 'i used to be able to use this' <- this falls under occasionally for me | 15:24 |
| dkbrz | KotCzarny: the best option would be setting this "false" variable by default, maybe on filesystem. Or, trace what it actually does, and make these changes default on boot | 15:24 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | So I assume the reason flight mode is not an option is wifi is required? | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | does modem boot/hop on operator even without firmware? | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | and tablet mode disabled cell while leaving wifi working | 15:26 |
| dkbrz | is flight mode still on after reboot if it was enabled? | 15:28 |
| KotCzarny | unlikely | 15:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Yes, but it requests you to disable it | 15:28 |
| KotCzarny | swb, he asks not about flight mode setting but if during reboot modem gets reenabled before flight mode disables it again | 15:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't know on a modem level | 15:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~boot-process | 15:30 |
| infobot | [boot-process] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87959 | 15:30 |
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| dkbrz | damn. dbus is comletely alien thing to me. something between iTunes and windows registery. basic question before i sacrifice my this night to dbus docs - is it generally possible to place some xml file somewhere on the filesystem, so, when dbus starts it sets 'com.nokia.phone.SSC.set_radio' to 'false'? or man I missing the point completely? | 19:11 |
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| dkbrz | od dbus is only the media here, and sscd startup options should be tuned? | 19:23 |
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| dkbrz | hmm... looks like blacklisting phonet module via /etc/modprobe.d/ does not work? | 20:25 |
| KotCzarny | i think phonet is something else | 20:33 |
| KotCzarny | ie. just a bridge to the modem chip | 20:33 |
| dkbrz | so, disabling it will not make modem chip not initialising on boot? | 20:34 |
| dkbrz | my pink phantasy was blacklisting it, and then only insmoding it manually when i need radio :) | 20:37 |
| KotCzarny | phink pantasy | 20:43 |
| dkbrz | ye. like "The Slow Rise Of The PSS 280" by Simon Stålenhag. I own 'Tales from the Loop' hardcover, and was allways thinging he's only in painting. | 20:49 |
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| kerio | dkbrz: you might want to look into the neo900 | 21:04 |
| kerio | it actively treats the modem as hostile | 21:04 |
| dkbrz | kerio: I wish I could :( | 21:09 |
| dkbrz | I am poor working class - do not have spare 1k eur. second market or stealing are the only options ;] | 21:10 |
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| sicelo | what is the reason for the hostility against cellular radio by the way? | 21:33 |
| KotCzarny | it marks your imei position | 21:33 |
| KotCzarny | even without sim | 21:33 |
| sicelo | ? | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | and another thing is firmware backdoor possibility | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | cellular modems are usually selfcontained machines | 21:34 |
| sicelo | i'm asking in connection with dkbrz | 21:35 |
| KotCzarny | then first case most likely | 21:36 |
| dkbrz | sicelo: tracking | 21:41 |
| sicelo | and still happy to be tracked when you decide to enable cellular? | 21:43 |
| dkbrz | sicelo: it's controlled. when i decide. in some countries mobile operators are obliged to create direct hooks frg governments into at least signaling. people working for government are of 2 types - incompetent ones, unable to find their place in serious business, or completely of malicious type, being there for abuse reasons. in any case, you loose as a customer, and i don't know what's worse of these 2. whan | 21:46 |
| dkbrz | you enable it on purpose - you know what you are doing | 21:46 |
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