IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2016-08-09

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DocScrutinizer05the encryption debate is completely missing the point00:48
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OksanaCute... I contacted the Manufacturer of AMTECH-Advanced SMT Solder Products, they said that: 1) the sticker on the products will say “the product may contain lead” even if it is lead-free; 2) going by lot#, if this was original AMTECH product (and not an imitator), it expired in 2009.02:17
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DocScrutinizer05ouch05:18
DocScrutinizer05though honestly why do you bother about lead05:20
DocScrutinizer05it's not like you're supposed to eat it05:20
DocScrutinizer05in several towns here old houses still have lead water pipes. Until a maybe 10 years ago gas stations sold leaded gasoline. Hunters still shoot their prey with lead bullets, particularly birds with lead shot, then eat that meat (though they rather shouldn't eat the lead particles)05:25
DocScrutinizer05"expired 2009" sounds really nasty though05:26
OksanaCould be copycat, though. A copycat with no idea how to write down "best before" on the package?05:28
DocScrutinizer05in all electronics shops you still have a hard time to find leadfree solder wire. It's simply not necessary for "hobbyists"05:28
DocScrutinizer05nah, just old product, with way too long shelf time, sounds like the more plausible explanation05:29
DocScrutinizer05and I thought the kabel had no 2best before:"?05:30
DocScrutinizer05and I thought the label had no "best before:"?05:30
DocScrutinizer05or was there "best before:" and then no date printed? then it actually might be a ghost shift product05:33
OksanaNay, I just meant that a "skilled" copycat should read up on what lot# actually means, instead of just re-using lot# over and over again, because in this case lot# actually corresponds to "expired in 2009"05:35
DocScrutinizer05nope, that's not like they work05:37
OksanaBut yes, fairly likely that somebody tries to get rid of old product. Does not supply photos of it on EBay, either; photos of flux pens are here, photos of solder are not. Aka, let's shift work of properly disposing of old paste to hapless customers05:37
DocScrutinizer05yep05:37
DocScrutinizer05also you avoid losses this way05:38
DocScrutinizer05since you actually *sell* that crap05:38
DocScrutinizer05so it's not only about disposal05:38
DocScrutinizer05and in the end... there *is no* "nest before:" on the label, so why should they even bother?05:39
DocScrutinizer05it's manuf's fault to not have a best-before05:39
DocScrutinizer05the reseller isn't to blame for not taking care about something he possibly doesn't even know of05:40
OksanaNo "best before" on label, true; no "store it refrigerated", either. But then, all this data is probably on the box (which was containing the syringes with solder paste), or something.05:41
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fishbulbbackupmenu11:02
fishbulbhi where's the link for backupmenu please? with the dependencies?11:03
KotCzarny~bm11:03
infobothmm... backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install11:03
fishbulbso I can click on that and it'll install, right?11:03
fishbulbI think I'm on my last cobbled together handset :/11:04
fishbulband that's ok for cssu ?11:06
fishbulbhas anyone here done the usb fix with a handset that has no traces left on the mainboard?11:09
fishbulbconnecting various things to the gpio pads in the back of it11:09
fishbulbalso I have this last functional handset that is factory reset, how do I get backupmenu onto it?11:11
fishbulbit's got a total wipe/reinstall11:12
fishbulbshould it take longer than 10 minutes to install... ok it seems to be working on my every day phone11:14
fishbulbthe new repos please?11:19
fishbulbworking repos please11:20
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fishbulbcan I get a list of the working repos, please?11:29
KotCzarny~maemo-repos11:30
infoboti heard maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories11:30
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fishbulbdo the muarf ones work11:32
fishbulbor linenoise11:32
fishbulbthere are .install links for both in that wiki but last time I did that it screwed up11:33
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KotCzarnymake a backup then11:33
KotCzarnyof /etc/apt/11:33
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fishbulbusb port is screwed, also application menu is just endlessly loading when I go to the catalogues11:34
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fishbulbafter that backupmenu install11:35
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KotCzarnyyou can try fixing it manually,exit app menu, run terminal and mc, go to /etc/apt/something.d/ and check what's there11:39
fishbulbactually it loaded after 10 minutes, there are quite a few repos there11:39
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fishbulbhow do I delete them all and get the working ones?11:41
KotCzarnypastebin what's there11:42
fishbulbum. how, I'm on a laptop11:43
fishbulbthe usb port is screwed that's why I need to move everything to my last working handset11:43
KotCzarnyyou have ssh installed?11:43
fishbulbthere's no something.d11:43
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fishbulbapt.conf.d sources.list trusted.gpg auth sources.list.d trusted.gpg~ secring.gpg trusteddb.gpg11:44
fishbulbtrustdb.gpg       I mean11:45
KotCzarnycd to sources.list.d11:45
fishbulbcd sources.list.d11:45
fishbulbduh11:45
fishbulbhildon-application-manager.list11:45
KotCzarnypastebin that file11:46
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fishbulbhow I do that11:46
fishbulbusb is toast11:46
KotCzarnyif you have curl installed you may try: curl --upload-file hildon-application-manager.list http://transfer.sh11:46
fishbulbapt-get curl            ?11:47
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KotCzarnydontremmember, maybe11:47
fishbulbapt-get install curl11:47
fishbulbno that didn't work11:48
fishbulband curl doesn't either11:48
KotCzarnyapt-cache search curl11:48
fishbulbhow do I display the contents of the .list11:49
fishbulbI'll just type them out11:49
fishbulbI can't get anything with these obsolete repos11:49
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fishbulbor I can't seem to get curl. I should say.11:50
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