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| kerio | yo is there a way to turn the backlight off | 10:21 |
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| kerio | without locking the screen | 10:21 |
| kerio | aw yea echo 0 > whatever | 10:24 |
| kerio | ok i cant see shit help | 10:30 |
| mp107 | Wait a bit more. On IRC you can have a response time similarly to the forum. Maybe after one minute, one hour, one day, one week... | 10:32 |
| mp107 | *forums | 10:34 |
| bencoh | kerio: if you cant see anymore, just let it turn the screen off/on again :) | 10:38 |
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| kerio | ye | 10:45 |
| KotCzarny | i think brightness applet has an option to enable 0 brightness setting | 10:53 |
| KotCzarny | for seeing shit, get a lamp/sun | 10:53 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: that's what i'm doing | 10:55 |
| bencoh | kerio: are you trying to save battery? | 10:55 |
| kerio | as i'm at the beach | 10:55 |
| bencoh | on a trip with no charger? | 10:55 |
| kerio | bencoh: yes | 10:55 |
| kerio | because i'm at the beach | 10:56 |
| bencoh | I wouldn't bring it at the beach anyway | 10:56 |
| bencoh | (as a matter of fact I dont) | 10:56 |
| kerio | y not | 10:57 |
| bencoh | mechanical stuff | 10:57 |
| kerio | how are you supposed to irc then | 10:57 |
| bencoh | on the beach? I just dont | 11:01 |
| bencoh | (it's not like I often go to the beach anyway) | 11:02 |
| ShadowJK | You should be able to see something on N810 and N900 in the sun with no backlight | 11:09 |
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| bencoh | yeah it works pretty well | 11:11 |
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| kerio | 272mA | 11:22 |
| kerio | jesus christ | 11:22 |
| kerio | fuck 3g | 11:23 |
| CatButts | lol | 11:23 |
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| bencoh | kerio: 2G is usually fine for IRC you know ;) | 11:25 |
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| kerio | i have no 2g internets | 11:25 |
| kerio | my operator is 3g only | 11:25 |
| bencoh | mine said the same but it eventually works | 11:26 |
| kerio | national roaming for 2g with the big ex-national operator | 11:26 |
| CatButts | does the N900 have option to limit to 2g? | 11:26 |
| bencoh | CatButts: of course :) | 11:26 |
| kerio | but it doesn't let you use data except by paying a lot | 11:26 |
| bencoh | ah, too bad. | 11:26 |
| bencoh | here 2g data works but with high latency | 11:27 |
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| mp107 | 2g works quite well event to browse some smaller pages on Opera Mobile | 11:46 |
| mp107 | But the browser needs a few tweaks for the best experience in such conditions | 11:46 |
| mp107 | f.e. increasing cache and setting expiring images to never | 11:48 |
| mp107 | that way it would not load images almost avery time we visit site | 11:49 |
| mp107 | and we can refresh them if we know (or are not sure if) they were updated | 11:49 |
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| drathir | sad no ucbrowser for n900... | 12:07 |
| CatButts | hmmmmmm | 12:08 |
| CatButts | what about, a j2me emu AND ucbrowser | 12:08 |
| Sicelo | it works .. N900 has both microemulator and phoneme .. i belive UCBrowser works on phoneme | 12:09 |
| CatButts | microemu is sucky, last I remember | 12:10 |
| CatButts | on pC | 12:10 |
| CatButts | *PC | 12:10 |
| Sicelo | it is on N900 too ... but if you really must run a j2me application ... | 12:12 |
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| drathir | CatButts: its little overkill to emulating java... | 12:17 |
| * CatButts tries to remember name of one decent j2me emu | 12:19 | |
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| CatButts | yeah, phoneme is probably the one I keep thinking of | 12:21 |
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| KotCzarny | 2g has a big latency as a feature of requesting/freeing connecxtion slots | 12:45 |
| KotCzarny | running ping usually helps | 12:45 |
| KotCzarny | but of course consumes more power | 12:45 |
| ShadowJK | There's similar phenomenon on 3G too | 13:14 |
| kerio | 3G has very aggressive powersaving | 13:15 |
| kerio | you notice the status icon changing from 3G to 3.5G | 13:15 |
| kerio | and back | 13:16 |
| ShadowJK | The threshold for when to switch from 3g to 3.5g, the threshold for when to switch back, and the time intervals at which it can do a switch.. those are all operator defined | 13:17 |
| ShadowJK | iirc my operator had something like 5 or 10 second windows, so that means that a single line on IRC is about as "expensive" in terms of power, as data transfer at 10Mbit/s for 5 seconds | 13:17 |
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| kerio | lmao | 14:45 |
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| jonwil | hi | 15:29 |
| Sicelo | hi jonwil :) | 15:29 |
| jonwil | Seems to have gotten very quiet in the N900 community as of late... | 15:31 |
| jonwil | Other than the certificate update I made the other day, there hasn't been any commits to the CSSU repo in months | 15:35 |
| Sicelo | KotCzarny: oscp .. since you bundle libs, etc. it will uninstall very cleanly, i hope? | 15:46 |
| bencoh | jonwil: indeed ... | 15:47 |
| jonwil | I just haven't been able to get inspired to work on anything as of late | 15:48 |
| jonwil | All the good stuff is too hard :( | 15:52 |
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| Sicelo | jonwil: maybe with fmg look at the camera stuff? | 15:56 |
| jonwil | what camera stuff exactly? | 15:56 |
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| Sicelo | fmg got the camera working with new kernel, but something is still missing .. or did it get done now? forgot | 16:00 |
| jonwil | I dont know a thing about kernel-level code | 16:01 |
| jonwil | or about the N900 cameras | 16:01 |
| jonwil | or about v4l/gstreamer/whatever other libs the cameras might be using | 16:01 |
| jonwil | plus I dont want to do any work that requires replacing the kernel (since my N900 is my daily driver and I use it all the time) | 16:03 |
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| Sicelo | KotCzarny: asking because i've been also asked to consider voting for oscp ... so i might install it after all :) | 16:06 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo: it's a .deb | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | and it doesnt do anything unusual | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | the only things left would be some ~/.oscp/ files | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | konfigs etc | 16:41 |
| KotCzarny | and i dont bundle libs,i compile them statically into binary, so nothing will get in a way in the system | 16:42 |
| KotCzarny | and because of that, you wont have usual debian residue in unneeded libs on app uninstall | 16:44 |
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| Sicelo | okay. cool. will install maybe this evening | 16:46 |
| KotCzarny | keep in mind it works a bit different than system media player, which has its + and - | 16:46 |
| KotCzarny | but shouldnt remove your data ;) | 16:47 |
| Sicelo | no problem, heh. i was just concerned about rootfs space more than anything else | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | nope. its in/opt | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | /opt | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | and symlinked to /usr | 16:48 |
| Sicelo | oh my! just did a `df -h /` ... 92% use, 18.4M available | 16:49 |
| KotCzarny | normal situation in n900's land ;) | 16:49 |
| KotCzarny | check your /opt tho | 16:50 |
| Sicelo | i have a large /opt because i repartitioned | 16:50 |
| KotCzarny | also, temporary files are kept in ~/.oscp/ on n900, in case you pack your mp3 in zips or something | 16:50 |
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| Sicelo | recovered 4M from /var/log ... funny thing is i deleted 8M of files, yet df only shows me gaining 4M | 17:00 |
| KotCzarny | some might be in use? | 17:00 |
| Sicelo | no .. they were successfully deleted. i stopped syslog, and the other logs were from fsck. anyway, i'm not worried atm :) | 17:03 |
| KotCzarny | might be 'reserved for root' space | 17:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: (funny thing) pretty normal with ubifs | 17:49 |
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| KotCzarny | foxx, try setting 100M on gbit switch and see if it works | 18:08 |
| KotCzarny | um, wrong chan | 18:08 |
| bencoh | it wont work on SFP ports, btw ;) | 18:12 |
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| Sicelo | KotCzarny: with a video, oscp doesn't display? | 19:34 |
| Sicelo | i've managed to freeze it somehow :-/ | 19:37 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo: oscp is mainly audio player, if you want vids, enable with 'v' or v button | 21:04 |
| KotCzarny | as for freezing, its a bug i still have to hunt down | 21:04 |
| KotCzarny | also,its from extras-devel? | 21:05 |
| Sicelo | 0.9.7-63 | 21:05 |
| Sicelo | it does play well though :) | 21:05 |
| KotCzarny | vid play when enabled is done via gst-launch | 21:06 |
| KotCzarny | i mean, by gst123 (which is similar to gst-launch) | 21:06 |
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| KotCzarny | but if you have a bunch of youtube downloaded video clips you only want to listen without using cpu to decode vis, its a feature | 21:11 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:11 |
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| Sicelo | ;) | 21:13 |
| Sicelo | by the way .. that's 0.9.7-63 is only in -devel? | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | also, ishould write proper docs/manual for all the features | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, yeah, i release often | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | on diablo i've promoted it to extras | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | but on fremantle i haven't reached full stable quality yet | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | s/on fremantle// | 21:17 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: but i haven't reached full stable quality yet | 21:17 |
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