IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2016-07-30

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OksanaaInstalling libpebble2 on maemo 5 was full of jumping through the hoops. After installing python2.7 and downloading libpebble2 source from github, I had to install python-setuptools and python-pkg-resources from debian repository (to match python2.7), while telling dpkg to ignore "unmet" dependencies (python 2.5.2 vs python2.7 2.7). Then do some symbolic links (two dirs and five files) to tell python2.7 to see the modules.00:47
OksanaaHaving python2.7-setuptools or something in Maemo repositories could be helpful... Anyway, python2.7 install needs root privileges, to install to wherever, run it under sudo gainroot. And TMPDIR=/home/user/MyDocs , since libpebble2 has some dependencies to be downloaded and installed00:50
OksanaaIn short: python has its own hell-ish dependency manager, and that does not make debian packaging any easier00:51
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DocScrutinizer05vectis3_: only when you constantly discharged the battery to deep discharge, and possibly even kept it discharged for days03:26
DocScrutinizer05otherwise a N900 shouldn't be able to wear out a dual cell battery in one year03:26
DocScrutinizer05a N900 simply can't draw sufficient current to create the number of discharge/charge cycles to wear that battery out in one year03:27
DocScrutinizer05do the math for yourself: a standard good quality LiIon battery is usually specified for >500 cycles before it lost a significant fraction of its capacity03:29
infobotfrom memory, batteryfaq is
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DocScrutinizer05 p.3 "10. Cycle life"03:42
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Vajbcan safely say that we (maemo users) can't receive sms from samsung galaxy s610:03
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WizzupVajb: how10:11
jogaVajb, smiley problem?10:14
jogathere was a thing like missing a unicode smiley font or so that had a solution10:15
jogaI also noticed it with a friend I didn't get all texts from, turns out the phone silently dismissed texts with smileys10:15
joga(that was BUMMER, who knows what else I missed...)10:16
jogaseems the original page I glanced is 404 but I suppose that's the same thing10:20
WizzupDoes anyone have a link to the non free parts of maemo again?10:47
Wizzupah - may be this
Wizzupah, and the closed packages page10:47
Wizzup it seems like most essential packages are open10:51
WizzupSeems like it's mostly two alsa related things and then firmware10:52
Wizzupfreemangordon: Where there any extra patches required to run Maemo with Pali's kernel?10:52
freemangordonWizzup: you need apt-get upgrade with cssu-devel enabled11:05
freemangordonand... (just a minute to find my notes)11:05
freemangordonWizzup: also, you need bme replacement11:07
freemangordonWizzup: and there is a script that should live in /etc/event.d, but I can't find it right now11:09
freemangordonWizzup: found it
freemangordonsgx startup script from that post is not needed iirc11:12
freemangordonthat's all, afaik11:12
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Wizzupfreemangordon: Thanks!11:45
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: yo does the neo900 have a spare spi connector12:09
WizzupI think the hackerbus may provide spi, but I am not sure.12:14
* Wizzup checks12:14
Wizzupmaybe not12:16
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kerioman, max backlight and irc over umts kills a battery in half a day12:54
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Wizzupkerio: is that any different on other devices?13:06
Wizzupkerio: why do you have max backlight?13:06
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kerioWizzup: because i was at the beach13:20
Wizzupkerio: use a white background?13:21
kerioi was using black on white13:21
keriothe transreflective screen was still not really enough13:21
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VajbWizzup: i know because my friend sent me an message in facebook asking if it had her sms. joga: yes, probably smiley problem, but earlier they used to come as mms. Now they just got silently ignored. I installed droid fonts package which was supposed to fix the problem, but it did exactly nothing.15:36
Wizzupso you are not getting a sms but an mms15:39
Vajbi was supposed to got sms, but got nothing15:40
Vajbfew android versions back i got mms, if n900 thought that that message is not sms15:41
Maxdamantuskerio: the tansreflection works when the Sun is shining directly onto the screen.15:41
Maxdamantuskerio: at which point the backlight is pointless.15:42
* Maxdamantus can make out his 10 px font on IRC using transreflection even with artificial light (just a normal bulb , a few metres away), if he angles it right.15:46
KotCzarnymaxd: thing is, transflection works with side shine too, usually you just want to see what's on the screen15:46
Maxdamantusshould probably have said "reflection", not "transreflection"15:48
Maxdamantussince the "trans-" bit probably refers to the fact that it can transmit light, which it's not doing in this case.15:48
MaxdamantusKotCzarny: yes, that's probably close enough.15:49
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