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| Linkandzelda | whats the easiest way to check i was able to move swap to sd successfully other than pulling the back cover and see if it messes up? | 03:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | iotop | 04:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /proc/swaps | 04:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: ^^^ | 04:05 |
| Linkandzelda | hmm | 04:05 |
| Linkandzelda | its showing /dev/mmcblk1p1 with priority -1 and /dev/mmcblk0p3 with priority 0 | 04:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that looks pretty good | 04:06 |
| Linkandzelda | seems like they are both in use, though 80mb used on the emmc and 3.6mb used on microsd | 04:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | swapoff /dev/mmcblk0p3 | 04:08 |
| Linkandzelda | that did it, guess i should run that on startup | 04:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas the standard messybox swapon doesn't know priorities | 04:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise swapon -p5 /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 04:12 |
| Linkandzelda | i added the swapoff to a startup script, rebooting now to see the result | 04:12 |
| Linkandzelda | for w/e reason that didnt run as expected | 04:14 |
| Linkandzelda | ok it works with a sleep, thanks DocScrutinizer05 | 04:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: less +'/swaps=`blkid' /etc/event.d/rcS-late | 04:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | less /etc/fstab : | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | # This file was generated by script /etc/event.d/rcS-late | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | # !!! Do not edit this file. It will be overwritten in next device startup !!! | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | # If you want static /etc/fstab add genfstab="0" to file /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't see the last line in your fstab, you should update to CSSU | 04:28 |
| Linkandzelda | i see the swaps in fstab | 04:29 |
| Linkandzelda | dont quite understand how to best edit this file at /etc/event.d/rcS-late | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should do as suggested: echo genfstab="0" >>/etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then edit the swap line in fstab | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or first have a look at /etc/default/mount-opts | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | # When generating fstab add also swap partitions from SD card (if exists) | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | swap_sd="0" | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | echo swap_sd="1" >>/etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite | 04:34 |
| Linkandzelda | ok swap_sd was already 1 in /etc/default/mount-opts-overwrite | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hint: I didn't grow this in the palm of my hand, I started with a `grep -R swap /etc` | 04:36 |
| Linkandzelda | just not sure on the effects of disabling the fstab gen | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you disable fsgen, you could edit your fstab | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly don't want to do this when sd card swap is already in generated fstab, as swap_sd=1 suggests | 04:37 |
| Linkandzelda | i can live with the startup script to do swapoff | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please paste all lines with "swap" in your fstab | 04:38 |
| Linkandzelda | http://pastebin.com/kqxNfNLY | 04:38 |
| Linkandzelda | if i disabled fstab gen i would delete the 2nd line simply | 04:39 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 grunts | 04:39 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 04:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see an option to add sd to fstab swaps, but I don't see how to assign priorities (which prolly is useless anyway, thanks messybox), or how to remove the eMMC swapo from fstab | 04:40 |
| Linkandzelda | then i'll make sure to keep it updated with any SD card partition layout changes which i expect the genfstab script handled | 04:40 |
| Linkandzelda | presumably by altering the rcS-late script to not search on mmcblk0 | 04:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd prolly suggest you keep your current config with swapoff script, just improve it by inspecting /proc/swaps to see if a swap on SD got added, since otherwise you'd end up without any swap when you have removed your uSD | 04:42 |
| Linkandzelda | is priority done based on the order of swapon commands? | 04:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sth like `grep -q mmxcblk1p1 /proc/swaps && swapoff /dev/mmcblk0p3` | 04:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess yes, though tbh I have no clue and wondered myself already | 04:44 |
| Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: i commented out the emmc swap in fstab and disabled gen, removed my swapoff script, then restarted | 04:46 |
| Linkandzelda | somehow both swaps are on, fstab line still uncommented | 04:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and? | 04:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wow that's sad | 04:46 |
| Linkandzelda | so im gonna revert to how it was and just go with swapoff becuase it seems something else is doing it | 04:46 |
| Linkandzelda | maybe a swap app i installed or something, i dont know | 04:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a swapon -a in rcs-late iirc | 04:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but there's also a swapon $swap somewhere | 04:47 |
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| Linkandzelda | in rc-late: /sbin/swapon -a || echo "Failed to enable paging partition." | 04:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly a real bug in initscripts | 04:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | swapon -a enables all swaps in fstab | 04:48 |
| Linkandzelda | i see | 04:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so this would be OK | 04:48 |
| Linkandzelda | im doing a grep for swapon | 04:49 |
| Linkandzelda | in /etc | 04:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but somewhere I found a swapon $dev or swapon §swap or sth | 04:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grep swap /etc/init.d/rcS | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's the bugger | 04:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, just keep your initscript | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as mentioned I'd first test if a swap on uSD exists by grepping /proc/swaps before I swapoff the eMMC swap | 04:54 |
| Linkandzelda | i see it | 04:56 |
| Linkandzelda | and will do that | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually rcS isn't the culprit aiui, since the swapon $swap is called in a mount_mmc() function and that function never gets called since the line where it would get called is commented out | 05:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I massively edited /etc/init.d/rcS so dunno maybe in yours that line isn't commented out | 05:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway rcS is worth a read | 05:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's lots of interesting stuff in there | 05:12 |
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| * Oksanaa is typing from Firefox OS phone; virtual keyboard is painful | 16:30 | |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:30 |
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| Juest | DocScrutinizer05: perhaps i could copy and edit the start_xephyr.sh and change the X server perhaps? | 17:20 |
| Juest | i am not sure if it will work properly | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know | 17:35 |
| Juest | :( | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | varaha-space/www/people.internal/neo/daily-build/history/april-update/ipk/armv4t/xserver-kdrive-xephyr_1.3.0.0-r25_armv4t.ipk and similar files is all I can locate on my machine | 17:38 |
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| Juest | I tried, nothing to be found really | 17:40 |
| Juest | but the binary itself | 17:40 |
| Juest | :| | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, people.internal.openmoko.org isn't related to maemo at all | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also deceased | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as I said: sorry but I didn't touch xephyr since half a dozen years | 17:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the concept is pretty cute but not nearly as convenient as a real hw platform aka N900 for testing | 17:49 |
| Juest | And for worse it has glitches! | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | shoot the glitches till they are dead | 17:53 |
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| bencoh | err ... | 18:54 |
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| bencoh | L29Ah: ? | 18:54 |
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| bencoh | gah. | 18:54 |
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| KotCzarny | i think his connection is flaky (or tunnel) | 18:57 |
| KotCzarny | either way he should do something about it | 18:57 |
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| Juest | definitely | 19:08 |
| Juest | yes | 19:08 |
| Juest | and oksana is on her sister phone | 19:08 |
| Juest | which is that slow firefox os | 19:08 |
| Juest | geeksphone nemo i think | 19:08 |
| Juest | keon* | 19:08 |
| Juest | KotCzarny: how to kill the glitches? i am clueless :D | 19:09 |
| Juest | Apparently hes using ejabberd | 19:10 |
| Juest | perhaps its a bug | 19:10 |
| KotCzarny | juest: with the gun? | 19:15 |
| Juest | .... | 19:15 |
| Juest | should debug it but i am completely clueless | 19:16 |
| KotCzarny | http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Glitch_%28enemy%29 | 19:16 |
| Juest | Anyone used the fremantle sdk recently? | 19:16 |
| KotCzarny | i just use gcc from sdk in chroot | 19:17 |
| bencoh | I use sb | 19:21 |
| bencoh | so do a few people around here | 19:21 |
| bencoh | Juest: why? | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please holler when that part/join flood continues. I don't see it here since I got all those events on ignore | 19:34 |
| Juest | comference mode | 19:35 |
| Juest | bencoh: i am on the official nokia prepared lucid fremantle sdk vm | 19:36 |
| Juest | and xephyr maemo is 99% ok | 19:36 |
| Juest | i am looking forward getting the emulator work more properly | 19:42 |
| Juest | i cant do maemo shortcuts thanks to xephyr's grab/ungrab input combo | 19:42 |
| Juest | perhaps i could make the start script not use xephyr but xorg | 19:43 |
| bencoh | huh ? | 19:43 |
| Juest | the sdk comes with a xephyr "emulator" where you can use maemo itself bencoh | 19:44 |
| bencoh | yeah I know xephyr | 19:44 |
| Juest | it doesnt work very well | 19:44 |
| bencoh | but what is it about "using xorg instead of xephyr"? | 19:44 |
| bencoh | well I dont really think it was meant to be a perfect reproduction of the n900 | 19:45 |
| Juest | bencoh: making it use a different X server instead of xephyr because i cant use maemo shortcuts because control+shift is used to ungrab/gab mouse/keyboard | 19:45 |
| Juest | And it does have some bugs | 19:45 |
| Juest | not a full maemo and out of nowhere suddenly i cant install packages anymore | 19:45 |
| Juest | i dont know why | 19:45 |
| bencoh | cant you configure xephyr to use a different shortcut? | 19:46 |
| Juest | and theres a serious glitch where applying a theme causes the gui to work erratically and i cant change the theme again, that personalization ui stops working somewhat | 19:46 |
| Juest | bencoh: i dont know how if there any way | 19:46 |
| Juest | has no config(?) | 19:47 |
| Juest | nothing in man, nothing in docs | 19:47 |
| bencoh | dunno, I usually check the source when I dont know | 19:47 |
| bencoh | (and end up patching if I cant find what I'm looking for ;) | 19:47 |
| * Juest ha programming basics but doesnt know to write in any language | 19:48 | |
| Juest | but at least i can progress with instructions :) | 19:48 |
| * Juest is basically a tester and compiler | 19:48 | |
| bencoh | hmm ... then what are you using xephyr for? | 19:48 |
| Juest | Because the script uses Xephyr to display maemo? | 19:49 |
| KotCzarny | do you have n900? | 19:49 |
| Juest | Fremantle SDK desktop shortcut in that lucid vm | 19:49 |
| Juest | No | 19:49 |
| KotCzarny | grab 2 n900 | 19:49 |
| KotCzarny | done | 19:49 |
| Juest | im only into maemo because of oksana | 19:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:49 |
| Juest | lol? | 19:49 |
| Juest | ... | 19:50 |
| Juest | bencoh: /usr/local/bin/start_xephyr.sh installed by fremantle sdk | 19:50 |
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| Sicelo | oh bummer | 22:15 |
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| Sicelo | so X40 has an SSD with 44-pin connector. i have taken out the HDD to debootstrap debian on it via a PATA-USB adapter. the 'problem' is that the SSD has no numbering or keying for the 44pins. Any idea how to tell the correct pinout? | 22:17 |
| Sicelo | it's the 41W0737 | 22:17 |
| KotCzarny | compare with hdd | 22:17 |
| KotCzarny | its not symmetrical | 22:17 |
| KotCzarny | ie. more to one side | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | it is .. it fits both ways in my adapter :/ | 22:18 |
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| KotCzarny | also, remember x40's controller/drive is powered from 3.3V | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | i do have an old 2.5" HDD . .that one was keyed | 22:18 |
| KotCzarny | as for the pinout, there should be square marker on one of the pins | 22:19 |
| KotCzarny | http://pc-level.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2.5ide-hard-drive.jpg | 22:19 |
| Sicelo | the jumper block isn't there, and pin 20 exists on this SSD :) | 22:20 |
| KotCzarny | http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1IPs8IFXXXXcZXXXXq6xXFXXXq/l-Kingspec-1-8-inch-44PIN-PATA-IDE-SSD-Solid-State-Disk-ssd-64GB-Hard-Drive.jpg | 22:20 |
| KotCzarny | as i said, its the positioning nuance | 22:20 |
| KotCzarny | more to one side | 22:20 |
| KotCzarny | http://eshop.sintech.cn/images/ST4060-logo.jpg | 22:21 |
| KotCzarny | see square pin hole here? | 22:21 |
| Sicelo | don't see it .. but i think i get the idea now :) | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | the 3.3V thing might be an issue then :-/ | 22:23 |
| Sicelo | guess i must look at TFTP instead then .. oh well | 22:23 |
| KotCzarny | there are special adapters for x40, with voltage adjusted | 22:24 |
| KotCzarny | that's why you can see 'x40' in ebay auctions | 22:24 |
| KotCzarny | http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-PCI-E-mSATA-SSD-5cm-3-3V-to-1-8-IDE-3-3V-44pin-SSD-for-IBM-X40-HDD-Adapter-/121303461664 | 22:25 |
| KotCzarny | for example | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | alright. at least i didn't force anything .. now to setup TFTP .. wondering if dnsmasq can do it (i'm already using it for my wifi network) | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | ah cool .. supported | 22:25 |
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| Sicelo | awesome. bbb successfully booted the lappie :) | 23:55 |
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