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| DocScrutinizer05 | I wasn't aware of https://wiki.debian.org/pkg-n900 | 13:52 |
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| bencoh | quite old though :) | 14:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL! tesla stocks -3% | 14:35 |
| kerio | D: | 14:38 |
| kerio | what happened | 14:38 |
| Hurrian | Someone drover under a semi truck trailer | 14:39 |
| Hurrian | s/drover/drove/ | 14:39 |
| infobot | Hurrian meant: Someone drove under a semi truck trailer | 14:39 |
| Hurrian | oh cool, that still works | 14:39 |
| kerio | ...how's that related to tesla | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fatal accident | 14:39 |
| kerio | i'm pretty sure i can do that with a regular car | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tesla's autopilot didn't discern whide side of trailer from sky | 14:40 |
| Hurrian | ...while on Autopilot | 14:40 |
| Hurrian | yeah, that's why people are making a huge deal out of it | 14:40 |
| kerio | :| | 14:40 |
| KotCzarny | he he | 14:40 |
| kerio | the highly beta software that you're supposed to be real wary of, that automatically disables itself if you interact with the steering wheel manually? | 14:40 |
| Hurrian | I mean, technically you're supposed to pay very close attention while AP's on, but seeing how many people upload vids of "Autopilot while asleep!!!!1111!!" on YouTube... | 14:41 |
| kerio | is it even called autopilot | 14:41 |
| kerio | i thought it was called autosteering | 14:41 |
| Hurrian | and yeah, they actually called it Autopilot | 14:41 |
| KotCzarny | people are stupid | 14:41 |
| Hurrian | lulls you into a false sense of security... | 14:41 |
| Hurrian | @kerio: Autosteer is the automatic-driving part of Autopilot, Autopilot is the whole suite of auto-features you pay ~$2500 (???) for | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this incident will sufficiently cure that | 14:42 |
| kerio | i'm siding with tesla on this one | 14:42 |
| Hurrian | so uhh, while most of the chassis slid under the trailer, the cockpit didn't, resulting in a decapitation... nasty | 14:43 |
| KotCzarny | must be hell of a ride | 14:44 |
| Hurrian | while yeah, I think the driver's at fault here (and he really is - the car's not Level 4/5 autonomous...), IMO we really shouldn't be calling it Autopilot unless it has a Google-style LIDAR suite | 14:44 |
| KotCzarny | but it's a case which points out a bug in their software/hw anyway | 14:45 |
| Hurrian | it's definitely a corner case of the sw/hw. | 14:45 |
| KotCzarny | so yes, imo its a tesla's fault | 14:46 |
| Hurrian | lane keeping is not too hard to do - heck, freaking Ford has it in my 2015 Everest. | 14:46 |
| Hurrian | ...handling corner cases like that is the _really hard_ part | 14:46 |
| KotCzarny | but you pay premium for those features, right? | 14:46 |
| KotCzarny | not to be a beta tester | 14:46 |
| Hurrian | the whole premise of a Tesla's to put down $LOTS_MONEY$ to be a beta tester | 14:47 |
| KotCzarny | Tesla reiterates that customers are required to agree that the system is in a "public beta phase" | 14:47 |
| Hurrian | kek | 14:47 |
| KotCzarny | and that the system was designed with the expectation that drivers keep their hands on the wheel and that the driver is required to "maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle." | 14:48 |
| KotCzarny | so yeah, driver was at fault too | 14:48 |
| Hurrian | I loved driving in a Model S (and even got to take a P90D for a spin!), but being on the bleeding edge is really Tesla's greatest strength _and_ weakness | 14:49 |
| KotCzarny | did you try ludicrous mode? ;) | 14:49 |
| Hurrian | yes! | 14:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 14:49 |
| Hurrian | (on a closed track of course! didn't want to get pulled over on US 101 ;) ) | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Hurrian: lane keeping? toys do that, with a "computer" made of two phototransistors and two analog amps | 14:51 |
| Hurrian | DocScrutinizer05: heh, I remember my first line-follower robot ;) | 14:52 |
| KotCzarny | i guess tesla did their lane keeping with photodiodes too | 14:52 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 14:52 |
| Hurrian | at the end of the day, I'm a believer in the electric drivetrain as the future for cars, just not too sure that the "smart" car is too | 14:54 |
| KotCzarny | no human as a driver == full control of traffic | 14:55 |
| Hurrian | I want a boring car, that looks as ordinary as a Corolla, but has a battery and motor and I can idle it in the garage without choking the crap out of everyone | 14:55 |
| KotCzarny | and our civilisation is going in the direction of full control (assuming we dont kill ourselves before) | 14:55 |
| Hurrian | Can manufacturers _please_ do this without making an egg-on-wheels (Prius, Leaf) | 14:55 |
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| KotCzarny | you want modular car | 14:56 |
| Hurrian | KotCzarny: at that point, I'd rather take a subway - also electrically driven, and way more efficient than everybody getting their own cars ;) | 14:56 |
| KotCzarny | but subway doesnt go everywhere/everytime | 14:57 |
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| jon_y | I bet your subway doesn't do cross country :) | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | it's called railway ? ;) | 15:24 |
| jon_y | or allow you to get on/off anytime | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | if you are agile enough.. | 15:25 |
| jon_y | public transport is such a joke at some places | 15:25 |
| jon_y | there are no bus/trains | 15:25 |
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| ceene | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3WUJBcf-4 | 15:26 |
| ceene | just jump around :) | 15:26 |
| jon_y | lastly, the train station might be too far away, so you'd drive there anyway | 15:27 |
| jon_y | and compounded by the lack of carparks, you might as well drive all the way | 15:27 |
| KotCzarny | now THAT you would call fuel efficiency ;) | 15:27 |
| KotCzarny | i wonder what they do if they need to do #1.. or #2 ;) | 15:28 |
| ceene | jump into the roof of a moving car, i guess | 15:29 |
| jon_y | Car Surfing | 15:29 |
| jon_y | (along with insurance fraud) | 15:30 |
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| zGrr | moin | 16:14 |
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| KotCzarny | i think charging liion doesnt depend on capacity but on voltage | 19:14 |
| KotCzarny | doh, wrong chan again | 19:14 |
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| Sicelo | ok .. sometimes one can think he knows something, until he meets someone who actually knows something .. gawd! never been in the company of so many geeks in my life (@ debconf). i feel like an ant | 20:49 |
| L29Ah | go bite someone | 20:50 |
| Sicelo | lol | 20:53 |
| Sicelo | it's great. enjoying myself | 20:53 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: Your in cape town? | 21:08 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, ask them about systemd | 21:10 |
| KotCzarny | (and duck quickly) | 21:10 |
| KotCzarny | stryngs: you're | 21:10 |
| L29Ah | KotCzarny: are you | 21:11 |
| Sicelo | stryngs: yes | 21:11 |
| KotCzarny | l29ah: am i? | 21:11 |
| Sicelo | KotCzarny: there's a talk about it :) will attend to hear, haha | 21:12 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: grab fish'n'chips, beer, good seating and enjoy then ;) | 21:12 |
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| Sicelo | so this temp. battery is settling at 920mAh .. am a bit disappointed, but much better than the sub 800mAh I had. getting new batteries in a day or two | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 21:22 |
| KotCzarny | how one can disable osk in terminal ? | 21:22 |
| Sicelo | i dunno if you can disable it selectively? | 21:23 |
| Sicelo | osk -> vkb? | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | if i slide out the kb its disabled, but i wonder if there is a cmdline trick to disable/reenable osk | 21:23 |
| KotCzarny | (related: i've just added mouse support to ncurses interface in oscp) | 21:24 |
| KotCzarny | (which even works over ssh) | 21:28 |
| Sicelo | awesome | 21:29 |
| Sicelo | :) | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | i know | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | amazing what little change could do | 21:29 |
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| KotCzarny | what was the screenshot shortcut? | 21:37 |
| KotCzarny | ctrl-shift-p | 21:40 |
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| Sicelo | yeah | 21:42 |
| KotCzarny | hrm, tmo mangled the screenshot | 21:44 |
| KotCzarny | how do i attach png without resizing? | 21:44 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I never needed to resize for TMO before | 22:29 |
| KotCzarny | swb: maybe its settable in userprofile somewhere.. | 22:31 |
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