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| ceene | hi | 15:55 |
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| Sicelo | hi ceene | 16:04 |
| ceene | today is the day i post about the death of yappari :/ | 16:05 |
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| Sicelo | okay | 16:06 |
| Sicelo | so it really looks bad? | 16:06 |
| ceene | yep | 16:06 |
| ceene | i don't know what else to do | 16:06 |
| ceene | i register | 16:06 |
| ceene | don't use it | 16:06 |
| ceene | one week later | 16:06 |
| ceene | i'm banned | 16:06 |
| ceene | same thing is happening to people using yowsup | 16:07 |
| ceene | i'll still be looking at yowsup development, in case they are able to find the cause of it | 16:07 |
| ceene | but i haven't advanced at all in several weeks now, i've got banned 5 or 6 different numbers, i've lost the count of it | 16:07 |
| Sicelo | it is understandable :) | 16:09 |
| Sicelo | i've also been following yowsup, and noticed lots of tickets going on the last few days | 16:09 |
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| bencoh | ceene: :'( | 16:26 |
| ceene | sorry :( | 16:26 |
| ceene | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1507013#post1507013 | 16:28 |
| bencoh | ceene: you dont have to say sorry (and I'm not a yappari user anyway) but still it's sad that it eventually came to that end | 16:30 |
| bencoh | that'll probably make a lot of people move to android phones ... | 16:31 |
| ceene | yep | 16:32 |
| bencoh | I hope that the yowsup devs will eventually find something, but ... | 16:34 |
| ceene | i thought they were at a better position than me, as they implemented WA16 while I was stuck with WA15 | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | I don't see many people moving to android solely for whatsapp. | 16:34 |
| ceene | yet their latest bugs reported are exactly the same problems as i have | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | I know quite some people using a n900, and none of them use whatsapp | 16:34 |
| Wizzup | me included | 16:35 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: me included as well | 16:35 |
| ceene | not only am I getting banned, i still couldn't talk to anyone with encryption enabled, wich as of today is almost 100% | 16:35 |
| ceene | i won't stop using my n900, but i'll probably be buying an android phone | 16:35 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: staying away from whatsapp *does* make social networking harder | 16:36 |
| bencoh | I dont like that either, and still dont use it, but I can see it clearly | 16:36 |
| bencoh | "I'll send that to you via whatsapp" "err, I dont have it" "oh, you dont? ..." | 16:37 |
| ceene | it's also very country specific | 16:37 |
| bencoh | and you basically miss all the group messaging | 16:37 |
| ceene | here in spain, nobody uses anything else | 16:37 |
| bencoh | ceene: indeed | 16:37 |
| bencoh | it was (a bit) less visible in france | 16:37 |
| bencoh | add to that the fact that I/we dont use facebook either, and ... | 16:39 |
| ceene | yep | 16:40 |
| ceene | we're the antisocial ones :) | 16:40 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: most people in my social network have sms/phone/email/irc | 16:40 |
| Wizzup | It's at least one of those | 16:40 |
| Wizzup | good enough for me | 16:40 |
| bencoh | yeah they can sms as well | 16:40 |
| Wizzup | unrelated note: | 16:40 |
| Wizzup | also managed to make ofono work on this USB HSO modem I have | 16:41 |
| bencoh | there *is* at least one communication channel, it's just not the one people use, especially for group stuff | 16:41 |
| bencoh | woohoo | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | now I need to figure out how to use the n900 modem over usb again | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | the usb hso modem was already supposed by ofono, and it's not n900 specific | 16:41 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: does your n900 modem work? | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | just happy it's pretty much the same as the n900 modem at this point | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | data, yes | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | voice, perhaps | 16:41 |
| bencoh | because the usb tethering part is pretty simple | 16:41 |
| bencoh | iptables -t nat and there you go | 16:41 |
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| Wizzup | I didn't mean with iptables | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | I meant actually forwarding the modem | 16:41 |
| Wizzup | so I'd run ofono on my laptop | 16:42 |
| bencoh | ah | 16:42 |
| bencoh | didn't know ofono actually had support for that | 16:42 |
| Wizzup | I'm going to see if I can make a blog post on the n900/gentoo setup I have atm | 16:42 |
| Wizzup | someone asked, l29ah or so | 16:42 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: I think it does | 16:42 |
| Wizzup | https://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Ofono | 16:42 |
| Wizzup | https://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Ofono#Using_oFono_in_Pass_thru_mode | 16:42 |
| bencoh | hmmm | 16:48 |
| ceene | https://www.bq.com/es/aquaris-a4-5 | 16:48 |
| ceene | i'm thinking about this thing | 16:48 |
| ceene | it's an Android One, so at least it should keep getting updates from google | 16:49 |
| ceene | don't know if i'll be able to use a thing without a keyboard | 16:50 |
| * Wizzup doesn't care about android | 16:51 | |
| ceene | i'm quite clumsy with my fat thumbs :D | 16:51 |
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| bencoh | ceene: I have thin fingers, and yet... | 16:56 |
| ceene | http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/20pcs-bluetooth-keyboard-case-for-samsung/198734766.html | 16:57 |
| ceene | i believe this thing could be usable | 16:57 |
| ceene | the back side gets attached permanently to the phone | 16:58 |
| ceene | and the keyboard is fixed with magnets | 16:58 |
| ceene | similar to the jolla | 16:58 |
| ceene | so maybe a strip magnet attached to the back of any other phone can get it fixed | 16:58 |
| ceene | and be made compatible with other phones, not only samsung's | 16:59 |
| joga | seemed to me the jolla keyb got detached pretty easily | 16:59 |
| joga | resulting in repeated keystrokes etc | 16:59 |
| ceene | well, this is bluetooth | 16:59 |
| ceene | so attachment is just needed to keep it geometrically useful, so you can keep the keyboard and the phone on the hand at once | 17:00 |
| joga | I guess | 17:00 |
| joga | just the hassle of recharging the keyboard separately | 17:00 |
| ceene | http://simpledevices.blogspot.com.es/2015/06/turning-samsung-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910f.html | 17:00 |
| ceene | yes, though they're supposed to last several weeks (!) | 17:00 |
| ceene | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XJw-9lWo-Nw/VYai5vkN_HI/AAAAAAAAAUs/GwlWjrqpfDE/s1600/01102009035.jpg | 17:01 |
| ceene | lol | 17:01 |
| ceene | the n900 is tiny | 17:01 |
| joga | heh | 17:01 |
| joga | it's snug! | 17:01 |
| ceene | or the samsung thingy is like a din a4 | 17:01 |
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| Sicelo | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35639549 | 17:25 |
| Sicelo | :p | 17:25 |
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| ceene | that's scary | 19:23 |
| Sicelo | yep. very much | 19:25 |
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| ceene | i was thinking about buying unoe phone of the Android One programm | 19:30 |
| ceene | i think it shall be as vanilla as it gets | 19:30 |
| ceene | so probably drivers are easily available so cyanogen, replicant etc are easier to port and probably work outside the box | 19:30 |
| Sicelo | how much does that cost? | 19:49 |
| ceene | 160 euros | 19:50 |
| Sicelo | okay | 19:52 |
| ceene | it only sells on spain and portugal, though | 19:52 |
| ceene | i don't think you could buy one of this directly | 19:53 |
| Sicelo | no money for it either :p | 19:54 |
| Sicelo | but the price sounds good | 19:55 |
| ceene | yeah, bq has rightfully cheap phones with a decent quality | 19:55 |
| ceene | it's a company that originated at my university, so for me that's a sentimental plus also :D | 19:56 |
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| Sicelo | let me take a shower for now | 20:09 |
| ceene | you don't need to ask me permission for that :P | 20:10 |
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| ceene | good, telegram-qt is actively maintained | 20:43 |
| ceene | and it's still compiling on scratchbox, with my patches | 20:44 |
| ceene | this task is also quite big | 20:46 |
| ceene | adapting all yappari interface to this new one | 20:46 |
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| ceene | KotCzarny: you've still got to upload oscp source code somewhere... | 20:54 |
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| KotCzarny | yup | 20:55 |
| ceene | now that i've released myself from the burden of whatsapp i can spend all my free time pestering you | 20:56 |
| KotCzarny | i just came back from the weekend time near the lake | 20:56 |
| ceene | cool! | 20:56 |
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| KotCzarny | and i will have time for it this week | 20:58 |
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| KotCzarny | so dont hold back, plan is that ill try to fix song ending algo, then i will put it somewhere | 20:58 |
| ceene | great :) | 20:59 |
| ceene | it's been a while since i lasted used oscp, to be honest | 20:59 |
| ceene | i got it installed in a x86 little machine | 20:59 |
| ceene | to stream through wireless headpones, while controlling it from the n900 | 20:59 |
| KotCzarny | get yourself some allwinner box for the audio server task | 21:00 |
| KotCzarny | (1-2W power envelope) | 21:00 |
| ceene | no need to, this box i have is always on | 21:01 |
| ceene | it's my torrenting machine | 21:01 |
| ceene | connected directly to the tv | 21:01 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:01 |
| KotCzarny | a20 boards have real sata too | 21:01 |
| KotCzarny | and hdmi out | 21:01 |
| ceene | bluetooth and wifi? | 21:02 |
| * KotCzarny is trying to infect ceene with little boxes wirii | 21:02 | |
| ceene | :) | 21:02 |
| ceene | i don't want any more boxes | 21:02 |
| KotCzarny | wifi yes (though crappy usyally), and you can always put usb dongle | 21:03 |
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| ceene | i don't want to tinker with anything at this moment, to be honest | 21:03 |
| ceene | i'm tired of knowing how everything works | 21:03 |
| ceene | i for once want to just use the damn things as normal people do | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | also, you can compile n900's binaries in chroot without qemu | 21:03 |
| ceene | work doesn't help either, as in the end all i do at work is tinkering with random shit | 21:03 |
| ceene | sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's frustrating | 21:04 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:04 |
| ceene | i've got quite a week ahead of me | 21:04 |
| ceene | i've got to retake a vhdl firmware i wrote a year ago and make it work on a new fpga and platform | 21:04 |
| ceene | i hate it all right now | 21:04 |
| ceene | i need a long vacation | 21:04 |
| KotCzarny | i bet you wouldnt last a week without the toys | 21:05 |
| ceene | i do, on august | 21:05 |
| ceene | i spend the whole month at the beach | 21:06 |
| KotCzarny | no phone? | 21:06 |
| ceene | and i don't give a shit about these things | 21:06 |
| ceene | :D | 21:06 |
| ceene | not much, to be honest | 21:06 |
| ceene | well, second fortnight of august i depend on whatsapp, sadly, to easily interact with people and make plans | 21:06 |
| ceene | :( | 21:06 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 21:07 |
| ceene | but i wouldn't give a damn if it were smoke signals instead of high technology | 21:07 |
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| KotCzarny | my only social communication channel is irc | 21:11 |
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| KotCzarny | other than that i just use real life talk and gsm | 21:12 |
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| bencoh | ceene: I'd probably prefere smoke signals :p | 21:27 |
| bencoh | people would keep it simple | 21:28 |
| bencoh | out of laziness | 21:28 |
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| ceene | bad thing about this phone i'm thinking on buying (bq a4.5) is that it seems to be the one less sold | 22:09 |
| ceene | so that can be a source of problems, i guess | 22:09 |
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| vectis3 | KotCzarny: Can you compile binaries for N8*0 on that a20 board? | 22:35 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 22:35 |
| KotCzarny | in fact last n8x0 package is built with it | 22:36 |
| vectis3 | cool, I might just get one. I seem to spend forever compiling on my tablet instead of playing with it. | 22:36 |
| KotCzarny | i think you can even use distcc, and still compile on the tablet if you really want, but having more faster storage is nice | 22:37 |
| vectis3 | Did you resolve the new compiler issues you were having? | 22:37 |
| KotCzarny | not yet | 22:38 |
| vectis3 | hmm, what version have you compiled? | 22:38 |
| vectis3 | compiler, that is. | 22:39 |
| KotCzarny | i had some sidetracking, ie. building my sunxi farm | 22:47 |
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| Vajb | ceene: now that u gave up whatsup, let me point u to new direction. That is Facebook chat ;) | 23:34 |
| ceene | that's not gonna happen, sorry :P | 23:34 |
| ceene | if something happens, it'll be telegram | 23:34 |
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