IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2016-05-28

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sixwheeledbeastgrrr, mafw-lastfm has gone funny again. I can't recall how I fixed it last time.00:21
infobotpkg is probably
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zZap-Xno more yaparri :(00:53
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VenemoDocScrutinizer05: it still is01:24
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DocScrutinizer51Vajb: (power up immediately) use my, it should fix tgat too01:58
DocScrutinizer51~listvalues flash-it-all01:59
infobotFactoid search of 'flash-it-all' by value (5): no. #maemo lazyflashing #DEL# ;; no. maemo-flashing #DEL# ;; maemo-flashing ;; flashing-cmdline #DEL# ;; #maemo lazyflashing.02:00
infobotit has been said that lazyflashing is 'wget -O - 2>/dev/null &&cd maemo-my-private-workdir&&sudo ./'02:00
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DocScrutinizer05ping timeout on bouncer?04:34
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: ^^^04:35
MaxdamantusThat's a weird command.04:38
MaxdamantusIs it meant to write a .tgz to standard out?04:38
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DocScrutinizer05ugh. damn you infobot05:31
DocScrutinizer05~forget lazyflashing05:31
infoboti didn't have anything called 'lazyflashing' to forget, DocScrutinizer0505:31
DocScrutinizer05~froget lazyflashing05:31
DocScrutinizer05~forget lazyflashing05:32
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i didn't have anything called 'lazyflashing' to forget05:32
DocScrutinizer05~forget #maemo lazyflashing05:32
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot #maemo lazyflashing05:32
infobotrumour has it, flashing-cmdline is
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo lazyflashing is <reply>see flashing-cmdline05:33
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay05:33
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infoboti guess flashing-cmdline is
DocScrutinizer05~lazyflashing is also
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay05:35
infobotmethinks flashing-cmdline is
DocScrutinizer05~forget lazyflashing05:35
infobotDocScrutinizer05: i forgot lazyflashing05:35
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo lazyflashing is also
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0505:36
infobotrumour has it, flashing-cmdline is, or
infobot[flashing-cmdline], or
MaxdamantusThis reminds me of why programming should always be done through text editors.05:38
* DocScrutinizer05 programs an /ignore into his IRC client05:39
infobotrumour has it, maemo-flashing is, or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline05:40
DocScrutinizer05~no, #maemo lazyflashing is
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, #maemo lazyflashing is
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay05:42
infobotrumour has it, maemo-flashing is, or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline05:42
DocScrutinizer05~literal flashing05:45
infobot"flashing" is "<reply>see maemo-flashing"05:45
DocScrutinizer05~literal maemo-flashing05:45
infobot"maemo-flashing" is ", or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline"05:45
DocScrutinizer05~maemo-flashing is also see ~lazyflashing05:46
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0505:46
DocScrutinizer05~literal flashing05:46
infobot"flashing" is "<reply>see maemo-flashing"05:46
infobotfrom memory, maemo-flashing is, or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing05:46
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infobot[backupmenu], or one-click install handling dependency issues:
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infobotfrom memory, maemo-flashing is, or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing06:04
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rhnhi! I just noticed that the default repositories (SSU) for my N900 are dead. are there any replacements10:32
infobotit has been said that mirror is  or - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new10:33
rhnsixwheeledbeast: thanks10:34
sixwheeledbeastprobably, I have not bothered there will only be updates from CSSU going forward10:34
rhnis CSSU a complete replacement?10:35
sixwheeledbeastI imagine the links above are old, no but if you have a working device on PR1.3 you should need them?10:35
rhnsixwheeledbeast: I want to give it out to repair and reflash after I get it back10:36
rhnthe USB port finally gave up on me10:36
sixwheeledbeastCSSU can't provide a full replacement unfortunately10:36
rhntime to check out the mirrors10:36
sixwheeledbeastWell yes in that case to will probably need to use it. I would check on TMO. I am sure there will be somewhere but no idea which factoid it's hiding behind.10:37
rhnfound them here:
rhnhm, I'll try to make my own mirror once I figure out apt-mirror10:40
rhnthanks a lot sixwheeledbeast10:40
sixwheeledbeastthat's probably it, np anytime10:41
infoboti heard maemo-repos is
infoboti guess combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see, or
infoboti heard maemo-flashing is, or - on linux PC - download&extract, cd into it, do sudo ./; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing10:53
KotCzarnyuse the script10:53
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, flashing-cmdline is, or
KotCzarnygrab maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz unpack and run ./flash-it-all.sh10:57
KotCzarnyits all you need10:57
infobotwell, lazyflashing is
rhnI don't like running scripts as root :P10:57
KotCzarnythen read the script before10:58
rhnthat's what I'm doing10:58
KotCzarnyand allow user the usb interface it needs :P10:58
sixwheeledbeast~seen totalizator10:59
infobottotalizator is currently on #maemo, last said: 'see the Resolution'.10:59
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infoboti heard mafw is
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infobotAll conversations are logged to Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily.
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sixwheeledbeastResource Temporarily Unavailable, hmm I wonder if they have killed the 1.2.1 scrobbler protocol14:42
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infobotpkg is probably
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Sicelore: yappari - have just sent a message to my sisters persuading them to try out Telegram :p15:35
zamn900you got the meaning of my "?"15:35
zamn900telepathy works fine too15:35
Siceloi've never used it before, but will use the Pidgin plugin15:35
Sicelohope for WhatsApp to be restored however. thanks for your work thus far ceene :)15:36
zamn900I don't mean the software "telepathy" but our own telepathy skill actually15:36
Sicelozamn900: ? means nothing15:36
zamn900ye ceene go on15:36
zamn900shall we cheer you?15:37
zamn900btw maybe untill yappari gets restored we will use telepathy skill as further way15:38
zamn900pigeons too as game of thrones does... with its ravens...15:39
zamn900? means a lot actually15:40
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Vajbcollective congiousness would be best im protocol16:00
KotCzarnyswb: as for me lastfm went down the commercial drain16:05
KotCzarnyignoring community at large16:05
sixwheeledbeastlastfm is not what it was, it's nice to keep track of all the music i listen to.16:07
KotCzarnyswb: want me to add statistics to oscp? ;)16:08
VajbLMD: 3331. Probably that's the final value. Only 31mah increase from last calibration.16:11
sixwheeledbeastBut I am using OMP16:11
Vajbcan go about 35hours without charging16:13
KotCzarnyvajb: that is dual setup?16:13
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: i like OMP too. It integrates very well to system.16:13
VajbKotCzarny: yes, dual Polarcell16:14
KotCzarnynot bad, 1660 per bat16:14
Vajbyes, im pleased as well.16:14
KotCzarnyi wonder about longevity of such setup16:14
Vajbafter mugen, which claimed to be 2400mah turned out to be 2048mah just after one year of use16:15
Vajbi'll keep ppl in here updated of that ;)16:15
sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: just looked at oscp, your control file could do with reformatting it's unreadable in HAM. I would look at the sources but it's non-free16:17
Vajbso far i have just one strange problem. I have external usb battery which is powered by 18650 cell and it refuses to charge my dual setup. Tho it could be it has become faulty.16:17
KotCzarnyswb: its in nonfree because of few reasons16:22
KotCzarnyone being dependency build heavy (patched libs) and another being unable to pass through autobuilder16:23
Vajbi recall u saying it'll be free when enough users or karma etc :p16:24
KotCzarnyyes, im still planning to solve that16:24
KotCzarnymaybe i'll just prepare oscp-build-libs package or something16:25
KotCzarnythat way i wouldnt have to chug few hundred megs at autobuilder16:25
KotCzarnyevery time i change the sources of oscp16:25
WizzupVajb: got a picture of how you set that up? the dual polarcell?16:26
VajbWizzup: no, but i copied idea from tmo. It is basically two batteries taped together and + and - pins connected by 1,2mm thick wire.16:28
Wizzupha, ok.16:28
Wizzupso you use the mugen casing?16:28
Vajbi had original mugen battery for a year16:28
Vajbbut it turned out to be tad disappointing. Meaning i could get through day without charging it at some point16:29
Vajbi couldn't*16:29
Wizzupmy polarcell batteries last a few days usually16:32
WizzupI don't watch videos on my n900 or anything, though.16:32
Vajbme neither. I just listen to music or audio books while working and sometimes at home too. Also some web browsing, few sms since no-one seems to use jabber and yappari isn't working.16:35
Vajboccasionally few calls16:36
Vajbwell maybe panucci isn't too power savingly optimated16:40
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KotCzarnyvajb: i think panucci uses software decoding16:51
KotCzarnywhich means cpu awake longer16:52
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Vajbcould be. I've noticed it uses about 50% cpu at times, but didn't bother to look at the frequency17:00
KotCzarnya bit high17:00
KotCzarnyit should use ~30% at 250mhz17:00
KotCzarny(and evilaudio should eat another 30%)17:00
freemangordonPali: I wonder, if we can use the current master to apply SGX etc patches on top and then rebase when 4.7-rc1 comes out17:21
freemangordonas most (if not all) of the pending n900 patches are already there, besides irtx driver fixes17:22
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sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: did you say oscp supported lastfm?17:43
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KotCzarnyswb: yeah, i was using api2.0, but when spotify bought lastfm they broke api keys for everyone18:43
KotCzarnyand only legacy api was working somehow18:43
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sixwheeledbeastI found it in the oscp thread, only scrobbles while you have inet? I need caching ideally.18:53
KotCzarnyif it was working still i could add caching18:53
KotCzarnybut for now i cant get it to work, as they broke api/api keys completely18:54
sixwheeledbeastapi2 should work 1.2.1 was deprecated years ago. A fix for mafw-lastfm would be nice then all player linked to mafw would scrobble18:55
KotCzarnyswb: as i said, they broke api keys, because even done according to their docs it returns error on getting token18:56
KotCzarnyand it wasnt only me, because their (now dysfunctional forums) was full of similar reports18:56
KotCzarnyhappened around august '15 i think (or '14)18:57
sixwheeledbeastthat's if it's broken. I have tried several N900's and two accounts this morning and still consumes CPU indefinitely. So you think it could be I have had no trouble for a whole year until this week.18:58
KotCzarnyswb: for cpu 100% the usual fix was cleaning the caches18:58
sixwheeledbeastI believe i have tried that, I had that issue before. .osso/mafw-lastfm.queue19:00
KotCzarnythen they might've broke legacy api now19:00
sixwheeledbeastwell other mediaplayers work so something is weird19:01
KotCzarnyare they associated with spotify in any way?19:01
sixwheeledbeastwell spotify/ and Rhythmbox19:02
KotCzarnyspotify bought lastfm, so its not as it would stop working19:03
KotCzarnyoh, wow19:04
KotCzarnymaybe i should work on this cutie19:04
KotCzarnybecause maybe people just want stats19:05
KotCzarnyThe main reasoning behind the foundation of was to provide a service similar to that respects the privacy of its users and their information. As such, does not log users' IP addresses, allows users to decide if their listening habits are to be made public or not, and does not claim ownership on users' data.[2]19:05
KotCzarnythey also say they are compatible with scrobbler api, so it could be as easy as acquiring api keys and changing scrobbling domain19:06
KotCzarny(added to TODO)19:06 has been around for years, Vagalume was compatible with both19:07
KotCzarnydo you need scrobbling only or also use lastfm stations?19:07
sixwheeledbeastI don't see any information on Spotify/lastfm buyout. I know CBS bought a good while ago19:08
sixwheeledbeastscrobbling only, stations died ages ago19:08
Siceloi've never used .. just looked it up on google/wikipedia - why would i/someone use it?19:12
KotCzarnyhehee 'active discussions' last mesages date august 201519:12
KotCzarnysicelo: just curiosity, stats, also comparing music with friends, finding new SIMILAR artists/tunes19:12
KotCzarnyit was about finding new music at the start19:13
KotCzarnythen they went commercial19:13
Sicelohmm, okay :)19:13
KotCzarnymeh, their api pages are still broken19:14
sixwheeledbeastLastfm was great in it's day. The it's amazing the amount of great music I found through lastfm over the years.19:20
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totalizatorsixwheeledbeast: ++21:29
sixwheeledbeasttotalizator: hey, just wondering if your having trouble with mafw-lastfm?21:30
totalizatorone of the greates features at lastfm - search for neighbours that have 9/10 same "most listened bands", look at the tenth and: mind blown21:32
totalizatorsixwheeledbeast: I haven't used it in a while21:32
totalizatorwhat is the issue?21:33
sixwheeledbeasttotalizator: I have tried several N900's and two accounts this morning and still consumes CPU indefinitely.21:34
sixwheeledbeastI remember having this in the past and clearing the cache but tried all that21:34
KotCzarnytcpdump shows anything?21:34
sixwheeledbeaststrace shows (Resource Temporarily Unavailable), had a break from diagnosing the issue at the moment. I'll have another look in a bit21:36
totalizatoroh, that thing, let me grep some logs :321:36
sixwheeledbeastI checked the logs i can only find the cache at .osso/21:40
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totalizatoryup, removing .osso/mafw-lastfm.queue shout used to fix it21:48
sixwheeledbeasttotalizator: done that, didn't work21:57
totalizatorbut you have restarted the scrobller afterwads, right? ;)21:58
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: see ~jrrepos instead ~mirrors23:29
sixwheeledbeasttotalizator: restarted in what way?23:29
KotCzarnykillall ?23:30
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sixwheeledbeastwell yeah then. I cleared the cache and removed the package, shutdown, then installed again23:32
KotCzarnyno need to reinstall i guess23:32
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DocScrutinizer05does *anybody* know of scope pictures or protocol timing specs of ECI?23:42
DocScrutinizer05aka Multibutton-headset protocol23:42
DocScrutinizer05<DocScrutinizer05> Nov 05 21:24:37 <DocScrutinizer05> somebody welknown here in this channel did some 'scope propes and snapshots and published them23:44
DocScrutinizer05 <DocScrutinizer05> Nov 05 21:25:14 <DocScrutinizer05> alas I forgot who, and I'm too hungry and in a hurry to find out who's been the hero or where have been those pictures23:44
DocScrutinizer05I know of all the kernel drivers by *@nokia which all seem to use an external MCU and thus don't disclose a single detail of the actual protocol23:47
DocScrutinizer05there's also  but I don't think it has anything more relevant than e.g. does23:48

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