| DocScrutinizer05 | some driver strength settings etc | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | lemme check the pdf again | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [Wed 02 March 2016] [00:37:43] <DocScrutinizer05> particularly High Current I/Os Load VCP Driver Invert TXD Invert RXD Invert RTS# Invert CTS# worries me | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | I don;t see a problem with that | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | I guess the driver has sane defaults | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I'll just connect GND, TX and RX, via 100R series for good means | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: see on p14 for the defaults | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | "High Current I/Os" ios being enabled is ok IMO | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: VCP stands for Virtual COM Port and this is what we want :) | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I'll just ignore all that stuff and do as said above | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | ok | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | let's hope minicom gives me a nice bootlog | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | yep | 00:08 |
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| drathir | DocScrutinizer05: thanks a lot i will read it... | 00:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 00:54 |
| infobot | i heard maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 00:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, still works ;-) | 01:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you still here? | 02:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: after soldering the three wires, it's getting difficult to disassemble the device without breaking the wires at very least. So my question: do you really need USB reinforcement (the USB jack looks healthy so far)? | 02:41 |
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| Church-_ | Hey, anybody had any luck about getting newer versions of libc6 installed in maemo? | 04:10 |
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| azkay | DocScrutinizer05: What are you soldering? | 04:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | azkay: freemangordon: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20160408_002.jpg | 05:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: finally \o/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1503047 | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now next step of this operation: connect to TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE | 05:23 |
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| azkay_ | Ahhh, good fun :P | 05:39 |
| azkay_ | I try not to solder anything I'm going to be using anymore, everytime I do I end up getting it too hot and the contact pads come off the board | 05:40 |
| azkay_ | But then again, I never buy the things I need to actually do it properly because I say I'll get them next time and never do | 05:40 |
| azkay_ | So I end up holding things together with one hand while soldering and powering through the radiating heat that's heading to my fingers, then get upset when the solder isn't flowing because I keep forgetting to buy flux | 05:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | azkay_: too hot is just a matter of decent equipment | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | get a good soldering iron with temperature control, adjust it to 330°C, use highest quality electronic solder (Fluitin for example) | 05:57 |
| azkay_ | So, better than my $10 on/off iron? :P | 05:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | apply minimal amount of solder to iron tip (for improved heat transfer), then heat up the pad until the solder wire liquifies *on the pad* | 05:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't apply heat longer than MAX 10s | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather 5s | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it doesn't work, increase temperature by a 10°C | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you really know to solder, aquired real mastership, you can solder with a 10$ iron too. even with a hot spoon | 06:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and for 'normal' soldering (all but SMT) you don't really need flux | 06:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just quality solder wire | 06:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | solder wire has a flux multicore | 06:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually the flux core is what separates high quality solder wire from crap | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the mere metal is almost always the same | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: http://paste.opensuse.org/4960820 | 06:11 |
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| azkay_ | I seee | 06:40 |
| azkay_ | Thanks :) | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I'm fed up for today. The N900 testpoint hack seems to work. What's not working is the compination of minicom and TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE - not even electrical loopback, neither testing for voltage changes on TX line of that adapter while typing chars works | 06:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | combination* | 06:45 |
| ds3 | DocScrutinizer05: are you sure that one doesn't require a 1.8V ref? | 07:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, since the adapter has its own power supply | 07:03 |
| ds3 | adapter? | 07:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suspect mess with CTS/RTS | 07:04 |
| ds3 | isn't that TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE a FTDI cable ? | 07:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | TTL-232RG-VREG1V8-WE | 07:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 07:04 |
| ds3 | okay... never seem them with their own power supply | 07:04 |
| ds3 | the one I use has a VREF input to take different IO voltages | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_TTL-232RG_CABLES.pdf | 07:05 |
| ds3 | OTH, I use kermit.. minicom is alwaysodd | 07:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >> Power Supply Output except for the TTL-232RG-VIP-WE where this is an input and power is supplied by the application interface logic.<< | 07:06 |
| ds3 | Oh that's what you mean by power supply | 07:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so yes, TX has 1V8, and RX has some weak 1V7 | 07:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and TX doesn't show any dynamic signal while typing chars on minicom | 07:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | friggin minicom tells me "offline" always | 07:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I strongly suspect RTS/CTS | 07:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though minicom should override this with HW-flowcontrol off | 07:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I hope it's not DCD which isn't supported by the FTDI | 07:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2initialize modem" \o/ | 07:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FFS minicom you b*tch | 07:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaand we have LIFTOFF, err noise on battery insert | 07:17 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hi! | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas nothing but noise, even during boot | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 115200 8N1 | 07:19 |
| freemangordon | hmm, no | 07:19 |
| freemangordon | 9600-n-1 | 07:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | k | 07:19 |
| freemangordon | 9600-8-n-1 | 07:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pretty much same noise | 07:20 |
| freemangordon | where do you see that noise? a garbage chars in minicom? | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 07:20 |
| freemangordon | then it most-probably works | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not convinced yet, actually that friggin N900 *really* has 2V8 on debug port, ask me where from it gets that | 07:21 |
| freemangordon | debug port == com2? | 07:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but since the FTDI detects signal, it should be happy with 2V8 and dunno 0.3V | 07:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno which com port that is | 07:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Hacking#Debug_ports | 07:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20160408_002.jpg | 07:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | scope meant it looks like 115200 | 07:25 |
| freemangordon | ok, it might be 115200 then | 07:25 |
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| freemangordon | I wonder how did you get that readings without the battery inserted | 07:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see "frequency: 125kHz" from err wait... upper left of scope, but that's between cursors and that means the bit is... err yes as long as one sine wave of ~120kHz | 07:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is a storage scope ;-) | 07:26 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok :) | 07:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, the friggin thing makes noise when battery insert and during bootup. As good as it gets before I have a nap | 07:28 |
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| freemangordon | yeah, take some rest | 07:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 | 07:28 |
| freemangordon | night | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~minicom | 07:29 |
| infobot | minicom is, like, ok. In fact I did xmodem transfers from minicom. But after reseting, minicom receives dirty echo from serial port | 07:29 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: what is the low level offset from zero? | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sort if zero iirc | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | massive shootovers though | 07:30 |
| freemangordon | I meant - what is seen on the soce | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, zero volts plusminus | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no DC offset | 07:31 |
| freemangordon | ok | 07:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the downward shootovers are actually negative | 07:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~1V I'd guess | 07:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | minus 1V | 07:33 |
| azkay__ | hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__24789__Soldering_Station_with_Adjustable_Heat_Range_with_AUS_Plug.html | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gonna check signal with scope later, once more | 07:34 |
| azkay__ | Maybe that | 07:34 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, you'd better continue after having some sleep | 07:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | azkay__: looks good enough | 07:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | azkay__: make sure you get a collection of soldertips for it, you won't prolly find any spares later on | 07:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | krhrhr >>Struggles to solder XT60 connectors even on max setting. 60W? I do not think so. You get what you pay for.<< | 07:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however read next comments | 07:37 |
| azkay__ | Yeah | 07:37 |
| azkay__ | It's a chinese clone of some other brand, supposed to have all interchangable parts | 07:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | get a damp sponge for wiping the hot tip clean | 07:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 'kermit' ? | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm k, http://paste.opensuse.org/94124643 | 07:49 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yes, ckermit | 07:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | locate ckermit: | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/doc/packages/ckermit | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/doc/packages/ckermit/COPYING.TXT | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/man/man1/ckermit.1.gz | 07:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no executable | 07:52 |
| freemangordon | dunno, maybe you have only that -doc package installed | 07:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/22048302 | 07:53 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: could you ask zypper to list ckermit package contents? | 07:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/45733908 | 07:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/66321491 | 07:55 |
| freemangordon | sorry, can't help, ubuntu here :) | 07:55 |
| freemangordon | seems google can: | 07:56 |
| freemangordon | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/162092/how-to-list-installed-files-from-a-package-in-terminal | 07:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/04/08/plasma-desktopKh2219.png | 07:56 |
| freemangordon | well, seems it is kermit after all | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | saturn:~ # ker | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kermit kernel-install | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 | 07:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now for real | 07:58 |
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| kerio | wouldn't the sponge burn | 07:58 |
| kerio | also how can you *go* to sleep at 7am | 07:58 |
| kerio | you wake up *from* sleep at 7am | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | JRTZV here | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | JR TimeZone Virtual | 07:59 |
| kerio | doc pls go to sleep at a normal time | 08:00 |
| kerio | it's good for you ;-; | 08:00 |
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| azkay__ | uber app: Login finished, estimate cost/time finished | 10:06 |
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| Oksana | Any progress with pebble time and Nokia N900? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1346632&postcount=16 | 10:32 |
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| Vajb | is it just me or gnugo isn't working on maemo? | 12:40 |
| Vajb | from extras-devel repo | 12:41 |
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| Maxdamantus | What does "not working" mean? | 15:04 |
| Vajb | ~ $ gnugo | 15:09 |
| Vajb | -sh: gnugo: not found | 15:09 |
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| Vajb | /opt/gnugo/bin $ sh gnugo | 15:10 |
| Vajb | gnugo: line 1: syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") | 15:10 |
| Vajb | /opt/gnugo/bin $ | 15:10 |
| Vajb | that | 15:10 |
| Vajb | it is installed properly, but no way to start it | 15:11 |
| Maxdamantus | try ./gnugo | 15:11 |
| Vajb | or im missing something (which is probably the case) | 15:11 |
| Vajb | not found | 15:11 |
| Maxdamantus | I don't think gnugo usually comes with a shell script wrapper, so `sh gnugo` probably isn't going to make sense. | 15:12 |
| Maxdamantus | When you're inside /opt/gnugo/bin | 15:12 |
| Vajb | there it worked | 15:12 |
| Vajb | thx | 15:12 |
| Maxdamantus | if you're not in there, just specify the whole path. | 15:12 |
| Maxdamantus | or add /opt/gnugo/bin to your $PATH somehow. | 15:12 |
| KotCzarny | or symlink to /usr/bin | 15:13 |
| Vajb | what exactly is ./ command? | 15:15 |
| Maxdamantus | when you run something like `sh foo`, sh reads the "foo" file and interprets it as a shell script. | 15:15 |
| Maxdamantus | in typical unix shells, when the first part of a command has a slash in it, it's interpreted as a path to the program to execute. | 15:16 |
| KotCzarny | . means current dir | 15:16 |
| Maxdamantus | otherwise it looks for it in $PATH entries (unless it happens to be an unquoted shell built-in). | 15:17 |
| KotCzarny | so if you are in /opt/bin and enter ./cmd then it's like providing /opt/bin/cmd | 15:17 |
| Maxdamantus | Yes, "./gnugo" is just another way of saying "gnugo", but it has a slash in it so the shell interprets it as a path. | 15:17 |
| Vajb | hmm i sort of see | 15:18 |
| Maxdamantus | otherwise it will expect to find it in /bin or /usr/bin or whatever else is in your $PATH variable at the time. | 15:18 |
| KotCzarny | in similar way .. means 'parent dir' and ~ is expanded by shell to your HOME | 15:18 |
| KotCzarny | but one difference from providing full path is that app starts in current dir | 15:19 |
| Maxdamantus | It always inherits the current directory from the parent. | 15:20 |
| KotCzarny | ie. if you are in /home/user and type /opt/bin/cmd and the program would look for file 1.jpg it will look for /home/user/1.jpg | 15:20 |
| KotCzarny | but if you are in /opt/bin and type ./cmd program trying to open 1.jpg will look in /opt/bin/1.jpg | 15:20 |
| Vajb | and if i symlink gnugo to /usr/bin and run just ./gnugo symlink will point to right place and it works without specifying path? | 15:22 |
| KotCzarny | no, ./gnugo will try to load gnugo from CURRENT dir | 15:22 |
| KotCzarny | ie. fail | 15:23 |
| KotCzarny | if you symlink gnugo to /usr/bin you can just run gnugo (and bash will search for gnugo in dirs specified n PATH variable) | 15:23 |
| Maxdamantus | "./gnugo" has a slash in it, so it doesn't search $PATH directories. | 15:23 |
| Vajb | ah right | 15:24 |
| Vajb | somehow i have a feeling that im stumbling over pretty basic things here :) | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 15:24 |
| Maxdamantus | Depends what you consider to be basic. | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | you cant get more basic than *nix paths | 15:25 |
| Maxdamantus | I'd say ctrl-d on a terminal is more basic, but that's probably harder to grasp. | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | one could live whole life without knowing ctrl-d | 15:25 |
| Maxdamantus | not knowing about it, or not knowing what it does? | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | not knowing about it | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | (ie. killing apps by clicking X) | 15:26 |
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| ecc3g | Anyone having problems with modest and yahoo IMAP? | 20:36 |
| KotCzarny | afaik yahoo used pop3 for free service, unless they've changed their policy | 20:37 |
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| ecc3g | I've been using IMAPs for quite a while but it seemed to have stopped working in January | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | grab thunderbird and check? | 20:39 |
| ecc3g | Since I don't use it as a primary mail provider, I didn't notice it stopped working for me | 20:39 |
| ecc3g | Alpine seems to work with the same setup | 20:39 |
| ecc3g | so as far as I know it's a modest issue or something with my n900 or tmobile | 20:39 |
| ecc3g | oh wait | 20:39 |
| ecc3g | scratch tmobile, I tested over my wifi at home | 20:39 |
| ecc3g | Yahoo "last updated 1/20/2016" | 20:40 |
| ecc3g | Gmail and my private mail server "Last updated 10:50 am" according to modest | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | as i said, check on pc, if it works, maybe they've disabled some ssl* protocols and left only tls* | 20:42 |
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| ecc3g | yes it works on my pc through alpine | 20:43 |
| Sicelo | what are the settings by the way? haven't checked my yahoo in a long time. can test for you | 20:43 |
| ecc3g | so modest has problems with tls? | 20:44 |
| ecc3g | imap.mail.yahoo.com port 993 | 20:44 |
| ecc3g | SSL | 20:44 |
| Sicelo | works | 20:47 |
| ecc3g | interesting, thanks | 20:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I stopped using modest, it completely stopped downloading email for me back in January IIRC. I agree I thought yahoo was pop only on free mail. | 20:48 |
| ecc3g | actually it seems to login but cant get mails or at least no errors | 20:49 |
| ecc3g | ahh | 20:49 |
| ecc3g | sixwheeledbeast: ok yes that's the behavior I'm seeing so perhaps there is really an issue here | 20:49 |
| ecc3g | I'm still using IMAP on alpine on my linux box and that still works | 20:49 |
| Sicelo | reminds me i have a twitter account, hmm. | 20:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ecc3g: you on CSSU? | 20:49 |
| ecc3g | yes | 20:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ecc3g: Testing? | 20:49 |
| ecc3g | no, stable | 20:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ecc3g: it's stable CSSU then, as I have a testing device that mail works | 20:50 |
| Sicelo | working just fine here (Yahoo + Modest) sees all 36 mails. cssu-thumb | 20:50 |
| ecc3g | hmm | 20:50 |
| ecc3g | so I guess I need to pull a new most from testing? | 20:50 |
| Sicelo | tbh i use mutt 90% of the time | 20:50 |
| Sicelo | ecc3g: no reason to still be on stable nowadays :) | 20:51 |
| ecc3g | I guess I can always ssh and run alpine, but modest seems to work | 20:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ecc3g: hopefully an update is due and then we will be working again | 20:51 |
| KotCzarny | cssu-testing is stable enough anyway | 20:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: I don't agree, stable is important to be maintained | 20:51 |
| Sicelo | i didn't say it shouldn't :) | 20:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If nobody uses Stable then there is no one to find these things. | 20:52 |
| KotCzarny | cssu-thumb is nice too | 20:52 |
| Sicelo | but current testing is stable enough for the last two years is it? and will be stable soon as merlin finds the time | 20:52 |
| ecc3g | yes | 20:52 |
| ecc3g | i really should go get another n900 and try thumb on it | 20:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I did mention here in January that modest had stopped working but I assumed it was just me so never bothered investigating | 20:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | No one else shouted up. | 20:52 |
| ecc3g | ah... sorry i must have missed that message | 20:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ecc3g: np :) | 20:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | both testing and stable are due an update it's just devs having the time to package one up. | 20:53 |
| ecc3g | I miss a lot of things, I just realized I didn't get yahoo mail updates since jan :) | 20:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | lol | 20:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I see little reason not to have the benefits of thumb if your on testing. | 20:58 |
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| merlin1991 | -stable will see an update *soonish* | 21:03 |
| merlin1991 | that should get your modest back on track | 21:04 |
| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup, Pali: updated my guide: https://github.com/robotanarchy/penguinphone/wiki/N900:-Running-ofono-with-a-4.x-kernel | 21:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | merlin1991: thanks | 21:11 |
| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: did you also see the guide I pm'd you | 21:13 |
| Wizzup | with all the dbus commends | 21:13 |
| Wizzup | commands* | 21:13 |
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| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: I saw it yesterday, but then forgot about it. thanks for pointing me at it again, I will link it at the end | 21:20 |
| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: they illustrate the dbus interface decently | 21:21 |
| Wizzup | I also never had troubles with eudev and openrc | 21:22 |
| Wizzup | (wrt your 'systemd hanging' problem) | 21:23 |
| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: I don't like systemd anyway. it's just what debian comes with these days... once I have some reasonable userland code written, I'll base everything on another distro | 21:24 |
| robotanarchy_ | currently I'm favoring starch linux most :p arch linux' pacman + musl libc + busybox. and I'd use runit as init system I guess (just like in void linux and sabotage) | 21:24 |
| Wizzup | I have a few gentoo musl systems | 21:25 |
| Wizzup | with openrc | 21:25 |
| robotanarchy_ | nice :) | 21:25 |
| Wizzup | now that most of the n900 driver stuff seems to work (at least for pda func), I am going to drink beer and brainstorm on how to cont. | 21:25 |
| Wizzup | REing audio I'd still love to help with | 21:25 |
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| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: I though audio is already somewhat working? | 21:26 |
| Wizzup | I meant phone calls | 21:26 |
| Wizzup | closed nokia audio bits | 21:26 |
| Wizzup | If you mean ALSA, then yes, ALSA work | 21:26 |
| Wizzup | s | 21:26 |
| Wizzup | although I think it is (still?) possible to damage/destroy the speakers | 21:27 |
| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: wasn't there a blog post, where someone managed to make a call? | 21:27 |
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| Wizzup | pavel, yes | 21:28 |
| robotanarchy_ | and yeah, that alsa stuff also needs to be fixed. destroying speakers is bad :D | 21:28 |
| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: but the nokia closed bits are still interesting since they do many useful things for calls IIRC | 21:28 |
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| robotanarchy_ | ah okay | 21:29 |
| robotanarchy_ | maybe I can even help with that. though my focus is right now making the phone usable for every day usage. very basic sms and call support, with an xmpp frontend so I can use pidgin for now for writing sms | 21:30 |
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| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: ah, the main thing I do not care about is the actual phone func | 21:33 |
| Wizzup | at least not much | 21:33 |
| Wizzup | but I have a day-to-day n900 and I want to turn this one into something more useful for pda tasks etc | 21:33 |
| Wizzup | with up to date sw - also firefox 45 (or whatever we have now) | 21:33 |
| robotanarchy_ | do you have special config options for firefox, so it performs well on the n900? | 21:34 |
| robotanarchy_ | I've tried it out and it hangs from time to time for me on that debian900 setup I have. running with noscript enabled. | 21:34 |
| robotanarchy_ | although it probably was the LTS version of firefox, that I tested | 21:35 |
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| robotanarchy_ | Aaro, the dude who wrote the guide you have sent me also has an interesting minimal linux on n900 project: http://musicnaut.iki.fi/comp/los | 21:38 |
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| robotanarchy_ | Wizzup: yay, sending and receiving sms works :> | 21:53 |
| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: cool | 21:54 |
| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: I would use firefox on the n900 only for a few things | 21:55 |
| Wizzup | not for most sites | 21:55 |
| robotanarchy_ | netsurf is slowly getting javascript support, I'll try out that :) | 21:55 |
| robotanarchy_ | and yeah, makes sense | 21:55 |
| Wizzup | I'd like to use it for notes, basic rsync/gprs, some security tasks (although modem), and just proper powered terminal when I need it | 21:56 |
| Wizzup | My plan is to use s2r extensively | 21:56 |
| Wizzup | since it will not do calls anyway | 21:57 |
| robotanarchy_ | well then you basically have everything? | 21:57 |
| Wizzup | well, usb host probably | 21:58 |
| robotanarchy_ | I recommend the terminology terminal. although bloated as hell (i mean, you can play videos in that thing), it is entirely written in C, has some touch support and performs well on the n900. | 21:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could you guys leave a note somewhere on http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=57 about your alternative OS experiences? | 21:59 |
| Wizzup | merlijn@chrometwo ~ $ ps xua | grep terminology -c | 21:59 |
| Wizzup | 9 | 21:59 |
| Wizzup | ;-) | 21:59 |
| robotanarchy_ | :D | 21:59 |
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| Wizzup | robotanarchy_: I have enlightenment installed with the mobile ui as well | 22:00 |
| Wizzup | I decided to mostly not use X though, I think | 22:00 |
| Wizzup | if I don't need it... | 22:00 |
| robotanarchy_ | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1498779 <- as you may know that is my minimal, i3 based touch ui for the n900. (DocScrutinizer05: does this count as alternative os experience? ;) ) | 22:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks, I linked to it | 22:14 |
| robotanarchy_ | DocScrutinizer05: cool, where? | 22:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1503106#post1503106 | 22:15 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: BTW, I think there is a council meeting right now, I guess you can ask there re autobuilder etc | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh council meetings still exist? | 23:11 |
| freemangordon | sure | 23:14 |
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