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DocScrutinizer05ohmy, TimRikers internet or server went south - I hate it when that happens02:24
DocScrutinizer05:-) fixed, it seems02:27
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RST38hEHLO Doc02:46
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KotCzarnydisabling memory cache makes iceweasel use almost constant 130-140M of mem20:36
KotCzarnycould it be the key for a decent browser on n900?20:36
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Siceloyou can test in microb first20:41
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KotCzarnydoes it support disabling mem cache?20:42
KotCzarnyanyone with debian chroot handy?20:43
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* Maxdamantus wonders what the actual advantage of memory-based cache in things like browsers.20:53
Maxdamantuss/.$/ is./20:54
MaxdamantusIt's not like Linux has some sort of disk cache, right?20:54
ecc3gprobably for some embedded system with read only disk...?20:55
Wizzup:Sarcasm detected:20:55
KotCzarnymaxd: i think it's for rendered objects/history20:55
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MaxdamantusIt also caches HTTP responses in memory.20:56
KotCzarnyanyway, after several pages memory stays at ~130-150M20:56
KotCzarny(i'm testing on 1GB machine without swap)20:57
KotCzarnyearlier with memcache on it was calling oom-killer just after few clicks20:57
ds3"disk" writes can be expensive21:03
MaxdamantusLinux also caches those.21:04
Maxdamantusunless you mess with crap like fsync.21:04
KotCzarnynono, not system cache21:04
KotCzarnyin-browser mem and disk cache21:05
MaxdamantusYes, but most of what's provided by the former are also provided by the latter if you don't do stupid things like fsync all the time.21:06
KotCzarnyunless you disable both21:07
KotCzarnythen it wont cache anything (ie. flush objects as soon as page is closed)21:07
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Sicelo20:42 < KotCzarny> does it support disabling mem cache?22:08
Sicelohow do you do it? microb does does have most of the standart about:config options22:08
KotCzarnyyes, that way22:09
KotCzarnybrowser.cache.disk.enable and browser.cache.memory.enable (both set to: false)22:10
KotCzarnymind you, it's bad if your gsm data is limited22:11
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bencohKotCzarny: so did you try on microb?22:15
KotCzarnynot yet22:16
KotCzarnyi was rather thinking about regular firefox/iceweasel22:17
bencohhmm, cache.memory.capacity is already set to 4096022:17
bencoh40mo, not that much22:17
KotCzarnybencoh: 40M is a lot when you only have few megs available22:17
bencohwell at least it quickly gives memory back when switching between pages22:22
bencoh( -> for instance)22:22
KotCzarnyunless it goes swapped22:23
KotCzarnythen it's not so quick22:23
bencohsystem still feels snappy so I dont think it's swapping a lot22:24
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DocScrutinizer05~spell standart22:36
infobotI can't find alternate spellings for 'standart'22:36
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DocScrutinizer05that's poor, infobot22:36
DocScrutinizer05~spell standard22:37
infobotI can't find alternate spellings for 'standard'22:37
DocScrutinizer05~spell kitchen22:37
infobotI can't find alternate spellings for 'kitchen'22:37
DocScrutinizer05infobot: useless22:38
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(22:38
DocScrutinizer05~dict standard22:40
infobotDictionary 'standard' (1 of 17): any distinctive flag .22:40
DocScrutinizer05~dict stand22:40
infobotDictionary 'stand' (3 of 28): a growth of similar plants (usually trees) in a particular area; "they cut down a stand of trees" ;; hold one's ground; maintain a position; be steadfast or upright; "I am standing my ground and won't give in!"   ;; be standing; be upright; "We had to stand for the entire performance!"  .22:40
DocScrutinizer05~dict art22:40
infobotDictionary 'art' (1 of 13): the creation of beautiful or significant things; "art does not need to be innovative to be good"; "I was never any good at art"; "he said that architecture is the art of wasting space beautifully" .22:40
bencoh~dict bot22:42
infobotDictionary 'bot' (1 of 9): Broadcast Online TV.22:42
bencohyeeeaah riiiiight.22:42
KotCzarny~dict bencoh22:42
infobotcould not find definition for bencoh22:43
* bencoh is undefined22:43
KotCzarnydragons ahead!22:43
DocScrutinizer05~dict 8 bot22:48
infobot[8/9] [common on IRC, MUD and among gamers; from ?robot?] 1. An {IRC} or {MUD} user who is actually a program. On IRC, typically the robot provides some useful service. Examples are NickServ, which tries to prevent random users from adopting {nick}s already claimed by others, and MsgServ, which allows one to send asynchronous messages to be delivered when the recipient signs on. Also common are ?annoybots?, such as KissServ, which perform no useful ...22:48
KotCzarnytried different memory.cache.size values, all finished with oom-killer22:55
KotCzarnyeither there is a bug or it's bahving different than expected22:56
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KotCzarnyfunnily enough trying to open 4160x3120x24bit makes machine swap furiously23:19
KotCzarnyfirefox has some funky upscaler when resizing images23:19
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