IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2016-01-25

fishbulbbecause it actually could be better. I use my android tablet for anything to do with alarms00:00
freemangordonfishbulb: I am fixing the so-called adeclock - FOSS replacement of the stock clock-ui00:00
freemangordonfishbulb: if you heave any ideas, please open an issue on github00:00
fishbulbno I can't really code so00:01
freemangordoncode?00:01
fishbulbwait you mean ideas for your clock thing?00:01
freemangordon:nod:00:01
fishbulbI'd need to install it00:01
freemangordonhttps://github.com/community-ssu/clock-ui/issues00:02
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sixwheeledbeast^freemangordon: will do00:02
fishbulbhey how can I open a terminal through (for example usb) in my phone, and then do things that way?00:02
fishbulbinstead of manually typing things into the phone00:02
fishbulbssh into it like a pi?00:03
freemangordonfishbulb: install openssh00:05
fishbulbhey I'm using cssu, should I use   [08:32] <ceene> http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/y/yappari/yappari_2.0.23_armel.deb00:05
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fishbulbthat's a dumb question, I wonder if I you can create a state of ADHD with no sleep and too much caffiene00:10
fishbulbbecause this recipe seems perfect but it might not port to other people's brains00:11
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fishbulbfreemangordon install openssh where? I'm using arch but prior to this I've only distro hopped and KDE didn't require much terminal use00:16
fishbulbhey is it possible that someone else can ssh into my n90000:22
fishbulbI haven't reinstalled or reflashed anything for a pretty long time00:22
fishbulbwhat's a good working n900 worth these days? I've seen people posting wanted ads00:27
fishbulbwilling to pay 200 bucks, but I've seen ebay items for 5x that and probably made from hong kong pieces, I have 1 genuine one left and one that's parts now00:28
ceenei've just bought my second one for 30 euros00:29
ceeneand i know KotCzarny has bought a few for even less than that, although not perfectly working00:29
fishbulbtraces came off the motherboard of the parts one, and I don't have soldering equipment small enough to do the hack required00:30
fishbulbfor the usb port00:30
fishbulbif both parties know what they are, what do you think a good one is actually worth?00:32
fishbulblast time I looked for one, I saw people who just thouht they were outdated "smartphones" asking between 100 and 200usd00:33
ceeneit's only worth what both parties agree on00:34
fishbulbhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokia-N900-32GB-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-BRAND-NEW-IN-SEALED-BOX-/141861937870?hash=item2107a162ce:g:Eo0AAOSwKtlWkYiQ00:35
fishbulbthese can't be new and unopened surely00:35
fishbulbI believe that they are sealed in a box00:37
DocScrutinizer05they look genuine00:37
fishbulbmaybe someone should grab those00:37
DocScrutinizer05and price about correct00:37
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VajbKotCzarny: hmm, so maybe cover art is making it unresponsive at start up? It shouldn't load other images, i guess.05:44
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KotCzarnyvajb, nope, its mostly probing for icons/omp files in different places, still, those opens add up10:42
KotCzarnyeach is ~0.5ms, but if you have 100000 of them10:42
KotCzarnyi dont think its the main problem tho10:43
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freemangordon_1Pali: rc1 is out :)14:40
Sicelowhat's the problem with OMP by the way Vajb?14:50
VajbSicelo: lately it has been unresponsive quite some time after i start it up. Just wondering if others are experiencing the same and KotCzarny suggested me to run strace against it, but it didn't reveal anything suspicious.15:00
freemangordon_1Vajb: yes, the same here15:02
freemangordon_1it seems it waits for the tracker or mafw to finish15:02
freemangordon_1stock mp doesn;t have that problem as it is pre-loaded afaik15:02
freemangordon_1Vajb: the problem happens only after the first start after a reboot15:03
Vajbi see. Usually when tracker is doing something it shows info about it.15:03
freemangordon_1tracker of mafw loading list of songs15:03
Vajbok15:04
Vajbwill try to keep in mind if it is first start after reboot.15:05
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DocScrutinizer05actually it's sqlite and dbus which take the blast15:24
DocScrutinizer05for a good reference of the problem I suspect here, use "extended call log" or whatsthename, with a eventsdb of sufficient size (like 1MB)15:26
DocScrutinizer05also dbus-monitor will give it away - if it's actually what I suspect it is15:27
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DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/16613602  hmmm15:37
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chem|stfreemangordon: I think I made them rethink, Nokia N90018:41
chem|stThis app is public and available to all users18:41
chem|stmy dev account is unlocked18:41
chem|stSicelo: ^^18:42
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freemangordonchem|st: great18:56
freemangordondid they give some explanation on why the accounts were blocked?18:56
chem|stnope19:00
freemangordonBTW mine is still blocked19:00
chem|stfreemangordon: they removed all but me, guess I can add you again, but as the app seems unlocked, I just added Sicelo for future use19:01
freemangordonI am still restricted from creating applications ;)19:02
chem|stoh ok...19:02
chem|sthmm19:02
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chem|stmaybe I should reopen and ask to remove the restrictions from our developers as well ;)19:02
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chem|stI'll be back later, got to walk the dog and feed both of us^^19:03
freemangordon:)19:04
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freemangordon~pali19:31
infobotit has been said that pali is http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/19:31
freemangordonPali: where were your scripts to copy maemo rootfs to sdcard? I promise to bookmark them this time :)19:34
Palimaybe on launchpad19:34
Palilooks like this: https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_M32GB19:34
Paliit copy to emmc, not sd card19:35
freemangordonhmm, ok19:35
freemangordonyep, those, thanks19:35
Palibut it could be simple to hack it to copy to sd card19:35
freemangordonI am fine with sdcard19:35
freemangordonPali: in case you've missed it 4.5-rc1 is out19:37
Paliok, will look at it later19:37
Paliscripts change genfstab.awk which is not in cssu anymore19:37
Paliso need to edit them to skip genfstab.awk changes19:38
Pali(if using cssu)19:38
freemangordonok19:38
Palialso change for rcS-late is not used for cssu (disable it)19:38
freemangordonok19:38
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DocScrutinizer05~#maemo clone-rootfs is https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_M32GB20:06
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay20:06
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ceenePali: reading mmc with your kernel should work, shouldn't it?21:04
ceene[    7.903106] mmc0: card never left busy state21:04
ceene[    7.908905] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card21:04
Paliceene: yes it should work21:15
ceenethis card works fine on maemo, though21:15
ceenewith kernel power21:15
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Sicelochem|st: thanks :)21:59
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Sicelofreemangordon: looks like our FB sharing plugin may need rewriting of some parts. it is asking for friends_photos permission, which was deprecated22:09
Sicelosource is available for plugin? or RE?22:09
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OksanaaPlease, optify perl ?22:18
freemangordonSicelo: sure the source is available22:21
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Sicelo009Nfreemangordon: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-20160125-220653-TweCnviS.png22:22
bencohOksanaa: isn't perl needed for stuff before /opt is mounted?22:22
bencoh(in the boot process or something)22:22
bencoh(I have no idea actually)22:22
freemangordonSicelo: https://github.com/community-ssu/feedservice-plugin-fb-common22:23
freemangordonSicelo: https://github.com/community-ssu/sharing-service-facebook22:23
Oksanaabencoh: I purged perl without removing mp-something, so perl is not necessary for OS functionality?22:23
bencohif it boots I guess it's fine then :)22:24
Sicelofreemangordon: that's nice. thought it would be close or something. but, i'm no dev. looks like your job unfortunately :)22:25
OksanaaWhat is ui-fonts? 1) If non-free, create a libre alternative? 2) If possible, optify?22:26
freemangordonSicelo: i am not sure I want to support FB anymore, will think once again, but...22:26
freemangordonSicelo: https://github.com/community-ssu/sharing-service-facebook/blob/master/src/service.c#L29222:27
Siceloi don't blame you. haha. actually we have 3 other problems in the review page: we need to be using FB Login, we're not asking for publish permissions correctly, and we're also not doing photos correctly22:28
freemangordonSicelo: we *are* using FB login22:29
freemangordonunless "FB Login" is something new22:29
freemangordonotherwise what we do is request of auth token vie FB site22:29
freemangordonSicelo: https://github.com/community-ssu/feedservice-plugin-fb-common/blob/master/src/oauth/qfacebooklogin.cpp#L3222:30
freemangordonno matter that "we" keep the login credentials locally on the device, the login is still through FB login page22:31
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PaliOksanaa: debian itself depends on perl, so maemo too23:03
Paliall dpkg stuff is written in perl23:03
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Oksanaabuild-depends, maybe. Not use-depends23:58
OksanaaOr I think so ...23:59
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