IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2016-01-23

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* Maxdamantus now has 160 GB of storage.04:42
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* Maxdamantus might look into fixing camera-ui.06:34
MaxdamantusCan never seem to unmount then remount the SD card and have camera-ui still work.06:35
Maxdamantusand stracing it again, I'm reminded that whenever you try to focus it scans a bunch of icon files and stuff in the filesystem.06:36
* Maxdamantus would also like to get it so the focus can be locked.06:38
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Siceloceene: looks like yappari days coming to an end?08:45
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DocScrutinizer05a slightly off topic advice: when you try to copy 200GB from SATA ext4 to USB3 attached ntfs under linux, you're better off to nice and ionice the mount.ntfs [SIC!] process as well as the cp09:05
DocScrutinizer05it's incredible how a simple cp in a user shell can freeze the complete GUI09:07
DocScrutinizer05I'm not too surprised now that copying large amounts of data from eMMC to uSD (or vice versa) on maemo has similar nasty effects09:08
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MaxdamantusDocScrutinizer05: how big are the files?09:11
* Maxdamantus has noticed ntfs-3g struggles with large files.09:11
Maxdamantusstruggles as in: uses insane amounts of CPU for some reason.09:11
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Maxdamantusthough large as in a few tens of GB.09:12
MaxdamantusLinux's general write caching behaviour does often seem annoying too, but that's not related to the weird ntfs-3g behaviour.09:14
Maxdamantus(that's relevant when copying from a fast source to a slower one—it quickly exhausts the system's writeback cache so everything else doing writes suffers)09:15
DocScrutinizer05if you wonder: .flac, .iso, .vob09:16
MaxdamantusMk, probably not that big then.09:17
MaxdamantusIt'll probably just be the general Linux caching issue.09:17
KotCzarnymaxd, iso and vob can be tens of gigs big09:17
MaxdamantusI sometimes periodically STOP/CONT the copying process.09:18
KotCzarnyand yes, ntfs is nasty with big files09:18
MaxdamantusKotCzarny: unlikely for VOB, since DVDs usually split them into 1 GiB files.09:18
Maxdamantusand if they're not from DVDs .. kind of weird to distribute stuff using VOB.09:18
MaxdamantusWith the STOP/CONT method, you don't lose any efficiency, just as long as you always continue it again before the writeback cache is empty (look for dirty size in /proc/meminfo)09:21
KotCzarnymaybe its some inherent fallacy with ntfs and big files09:21
KotCzarnyhard to think ntfs-3g guys overlooked the issue09:22
KotCzarny(it's present in all releases i've seen)09:22
MaxdamantusI think when I looked into it there might have been some suggestion about lack of proper handling of fragmentation or something.09:22
Maxdamantus(but again, that's independent of the other caching issue in Linux)09:22
DocScrutinizer05wow, finished09:30
Maxdamantus19:51 < Maxdamantus> while killall -STOP rsync; do while (($(cat /proc/meminfo | sed '/^Dirty/!d; s/^.*: *//; s/ .*$//') > 2000000)); do sleep 5; done; killall -CONT rsync; sleep 10; done09:36
MaxdamantusSomething I found in my logs.09:36
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MaxdamantusHm. camera-ui seems to have many strange behaviours.10:57
MaxdamantusWell, strange implementation behaviours.10:57
* Maxdamantus wonders how similar they are to the original version.10:57
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ceeneSicelo: it may be13:09
ceenei've woken up to it13:09
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ceenelet's try and see what i can do13:28
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ceeneSicelo: i've upgraded version numbers and that's been enough13:57
ceenei'm uploading this version right now13:57
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VajbSicelo: yeah i got "connection closed by server" in yappari. Guess im banned then17:01
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ceeneVajb: you aren't17:10
ceenejust need to upgrade to latest version17:10
ceenethat is currently on its way to reach the repos17:11
ceenebut which is already linked on the TMO post :)17:11
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Vajbapp manager shows upgrade and im installing it17:22
ceeneit should be 2.0.2317:22
ceenelet me know if you have any problem with it17:22
Vajbyeah it is17:22
Vajbjust waiting install to finnish17:23
Vajbceene: it's alive, thx :)17:29
ceenegreat! :)17:29
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