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| KotCzarny | oh, well, libne10 needs gcc-4.8 or later. | 11:14 |
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| KotCzarny | anyone has a spare? | 11:14 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 11:28 |
| KotCzarny | also, search on tmo is weird | 11:29 |
| KotCzarny | looking for 'gcc' in threads in maemo.org - Talk > OS / Platform > Development resulted in 0 hits | 11:29 |
| bencoh | I always use google with site:talk.maemo.org instead ... | 11:29 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:29 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, by any chance you have gcc-4.8.1 copy from AapoRantalainen? | 11:30 |
| bencoh | no | 11:30 |
| KotCzarny | apparently his school hosting went 403 for outside world | 11:30 |
| KotCzarny | or, if you can check if you can access http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/rantalai/maemo5/gcc-4.8.tar.bz2 | 11:30 |
| bencoh | is that a binary package? | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | yes, unpackable to /opt | 11:31 |
| bencoh | 403 | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | ooh, sailfish has gcc-5.2.0 *jealous* | 11:34 |
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| capitanocrunch | WINDOW LIST | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | spam incoming? | 12:44 |
| capitanocrunch | no | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | good | 12:45 |
| capitanocrunch | typing without / | 12:45 |
| capitanocrunch | ;) | 12:45 |
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| Sicelo | KotCzarny: burning pltform | 12:47 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, um? | 12:47 |
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| Sicelo | sailfish gcc 5 ... unfortunately they appear to be Elop's burning platform | 12:48 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, but that gcc is user submitted | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | not the official one | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | the same guy which did gcc package for fremantle | 12:49 |
| Sicelo | won't matter when the platform is gone :p | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | isnt n900 gone by that definition for a long time? | 12:50 |
| Sicelo | if the Jolla can find purpose for itself like the N900 :) | 12:54 |
| KotCzarny | what is the purpose of the n900? | 12:54 |
| Sicelo | pocket linux computer? | 12:54 |
| KotCzarny | good one. | 12:55 |
| KotCzarny | isnt jolla a linux too? | 12:55 |
| Sicelo | why are we still buying them? | 12:55 |
| Sicelo | Android "is" too :) | 12:55 |
| KotCzarny | android is java running on linux host | 12:55 |
| Sicelo | but will you buy 3.5 SGS3 for example? | 12:55 |
| Sicelo | seems sailfish is not much different from android | 12:56 |
| KotCzarny | pity. | 12:57 |
| KotCzarny | anyone tried porting fremantle to it? | 12:57 |
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| KotCzarny | (i mean, to n9) | 12:59 |
| Sicelo | that said .. seems android usb has improved .. no longer just mass storage devices + HID devices. saw an endoscope connecting to some samsung without extra drivers | 13:00 |
| Sicelo | N9 .. answer to your question should be a no. what is 'fremantle' in your context btw? | 13:01 |
| KotCzarny | linux system running natively | 13:01 |
| KotCzarny | without all that sandbox crap | 13:02 |
| KotCzarny | and maybe with hildon/matchbox as an ui | 13:02 |
| Maxdamantus | sandbox? scratchbox? | 13:02 |
| Sicelo | N9 is full linux. with fancy look-alike of selinux/apparmor ... i.e. aegis | 13:02 |
| Maxdamantus | The point of scratchbox is mostly to provide an ARM development environment on x86. | 13:03 |
| Maxdamantus | or potentially replace with some other architectures. | 13:03 |
| Sicelo | as for hildon, i don't see any interest .. they have swipe, which is considered superior by most .. some tried to get it ported back to hildon :) | 13:03 |
| KotCzarny | nope, sb is just build env, i meant the device os/env | 13:04 |
| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: he meant aegis | 13:04 |
| Maxdamantus | Oh, nvm. | 13:04 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, swipe requires good touch screen | 13:04 |
| KotCzarny | and i prefer clicking, my fingers make too much friction usually | 13:04 |
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| * Maxdamantus wonders if people have experimented with a touchpad mode on a phone. | 13:06 | |
| Maxdamantus | touchpad as in relative positioning, probably also with the click/drag actions on typical laptop setups (single tap = click, double tap = drag) | 13:07 |
| KotCzarny | i hate touchpad clicking, always disable it because of accidental clicks | 13:08 |
| Maxdamantus | I'm usually in a terminal on my laptops, so clicking accidentally doesn't really do much. | 13:09 |
| KotCzarny | it does the select/paste thing | 13:09 |
| KotCzarny | at least if you have gpm running | 13:09 |
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| Maxdamantus | Just select (and make accessible as the primary buffer) | 13:10 |
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| Sicelo | talking about N9, KotCzarny you got one yet? | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | not yet | 13:13 |
| klopsi-u3 | has no keyboard | 13:15 |
| KotCzarny | with good apps you wont miss kb that much | 13:15 |
| klopsi-u3 | that's like telling me what kind of girlfriend i would like | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | i missed it .. | 13:16 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | but thn, N900 won't ast forever. no getting around that. we WILL move to keyboard-less devices at some point, no matter how much we can resist for now :) | 13:17 |
| kerio | will we | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | but its true, windows ui (mostly mouse driven) vs linux terminal one (mostly kb) | 13:17 |
| Sicelo | s/ast/last/ | 13:17 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, that point in time will be: 1/ when gsm network drops support for the ones we have in n900, or 2/ all n900s in the world break (or their batteries), or 3/ there would be viable better alternative (opensource, linux, etc) | 13:18 |
| KotCzarny | still good few years before that | 13:19 |
| kerio | i'm waiting for some rich nerd's neo900 to be sold on ebay for cheaper than 1k€ | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | kerio, rich nerds dont sell things usually | 13:20 |
| KotCzarny | they are rich, why should they sell things? | 13:20 |
| kerio | the blackberry priv managed to make the keyboard slide on the wrong side :\ | 13:21 |
| KotCzarny | and sadly, with so fewer of them being already paid for, i wouldnt expect to even 1 show up | 13:21 |
| KotCzarny | that priv looks nice, and quite slim for a sliding phone | 13:24 |
| kerio | it costs a fuckton tho | 13:26 |
| kerio | and the slider is... narrow | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | and it's an android ? | 13:27 |
| kerio | that too | 13:28 |
| kerio | android is shit, ios is too restricted | 13:28 |
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| KotCzarny | merlin1991: any chance to make newer gcc for sbox? | 13:30 |
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| jonwil | I was posting on a forum in a thread about the N900 and commenting on how good it is and that I was hopeful of fixing mine and I said "Otherwise I will be stuck buying some piece-of-crap Android phone". Some guy then responded back and said "And when you do you'll ask yourself "why didn't I do this earlier???"." and "I loved my N900 too but everything just works on my Android." | 13:53 |
| jonwil | Clearly not everyone is as in tune with the cult-of-N900 as we here are :) | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | yes, of course 'it just works' as long one doesnt need something changed too much | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | then.. | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | sorry. no bonus | 13:54 |
| jonwil | You couldn't PAY me to use an iPhail... | 13:54 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | i've coded few apps for android, but again, it doubles the porting work | 13:55 |
| jonwil | if by some miracle I did by an Android device it would probably be a Google Nexus device | 13:56 |
| KotCzarny | you cant just get the source you did for your phone app, then compile it for pc | 13:56 |
| jonwil | Closest thing to fully-open-source | 13:56 |
| jonwil | and none of the crapware | 13:56 |
| KotCzarny | one plus of having nexus one is more support | 13:56 |
| KotCzarny | if you buy any chinese or even some models of samsung.. | 13:56 |
| jonwil | And none of the nexus gear has any kind of lockdowns or restrictions on flashing custom ROMs of any sort (unlike many other Android phones) | 13:57 |
| jonwil | Heck, if you had hardware drivers you could probably run a proper Linux OS on a Nexus device | 13:57 |
| KotCzarny | still, they get phased out quick with new models | 13:57 |
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| jonwil | I just hope I can either get my N900 fixed (or failing that, find a new-to-me replacement N900 that I dont have to pay a fortune for, dont have to wait months for it to arrive, dont need to buy from questionable shops with a risk of not getting what I paid for and dont need to use eBay or PayPal to obtain) | 14:00 |
| kerio | to be fair the cult-of-n900 stuff could be true | 14:00 |
| jonwil | otherwise I really will have no choice but to leave the greatest phone OS of all tim behind | 14:00 |
| jonwil | all time | 14:00 |
| kerio | right now the only thing i'm using my n900 for is irc, pretty much | 14:00 |
| kerio | the browser's too slow to do anything useful | 14:00 |
| jonwil | The browser isn't that bad on the sites I visit | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | im using browser on my laptop, phone screen/lack of kb is the stopping factor | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | not to mention mobile browsing is usually restricted to getting info/paying | 14:02 |
| jonwil | Pro tip is not to run any ad blockers or the like (they are a leading cause of problems with microb) and (unless you actually have a genuine need for it) to completly turn off Flash | 14:02 |
| jonwil | I did both of those (removed ad blocker and turned off Flash) and my browser started doing better | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | and that you can do with the n900 and a bit of patience | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil, proxy ad blocking is they way | 14:03 |
| jonwil | The problem in getting my N900 fixed I suspect will be finding a repair shop that actually does solder worth rather than just "ok, motherboard is broken, sorry, we cant fix your phone, you need a new one, that will be $100 for taking a look at it thanks" | 14:03 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil, look for general electronics repair sites, than just phone shops | 14:04 |
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| jonwil | When I google for those in my area, most of what comes up seem to be places that repair TV and audio gear | 14:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | jonwil: you need to ask them for SMT repair skills | 14:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | usually those shops offered 'LED color pimping" etc for featurephones | 14:10 |
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| enyc | DocScrutinizer51: hrrm, make me wonedr now about DocScrutinizer51 vs DocScrutinizer05 ... thouugh at least latter was away for a bit now | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yes, I'm 'away' | 14:22 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | got a few minutes of connectivity per day | 14:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~botsnack | 14:23 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer51: have a nice time =) | 14:25 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ta | 14:25 |
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| jonwil | I have posted a thread on a forum where a lot of electronics guys hang out (including a lot of Aussie electronics guys) asking if they know of any places in my town that can still do actual solder work rather than just parts replacement | 14:51 |
| jonwil | maybe that will throw up a useful lead | 14:51 |
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| Oksanaa | Hmm... Anybody interested in adding otr support to telepathy? https://git.collabora.com/cgit/user/xclaesse/telepathy-gabble.git/log/?h=otr | 15:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hi Oksanaa | 15:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | a pity I can't remote-reboot infobot. Prolly a email to tim AT rikers.org subject:"please restart infobot" and greetings from joerg is OK | 15:11 |
| Oksanaa | hello :-) I am not sure about differences in telepathy-gabble versions, if any, but then GUI would need security-buttons? and yes, email or something should be okay | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I can't send mail either | 15:13 |
| Oksanaa | why? his email inbox full? | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm abroad | 15:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Oksana: I'm abroad | 15:15 |
| Oksanaa | Abroad: Holidays? :-) Abroad: how does it prevent sending email? | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | if I wasn't or if I could tell my flat mate how to open the ssh port on my router, I could do both send mail and reboot bot | 15:17 |
| Oksanaa | Currently infobot is logging, but it wasn't on Monday? | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | reconvalescence 'holiday' | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | currently it's logging? | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~+status | 15:19 |
| Oksanaa | I think so. I checked in weblogs to see if I missed anything due to jump-out | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | infobot is offline | 15:19 |
| Oksanaa | And latest logs were Sunday and Tuesday | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | povbot: status | 15:20 |
| povbot | DocScrutinizer51: Error: "status" is not a valid command. | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | infobot != povbot | 15:20 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: help | 15:20 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 15:20 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: commands | 15:21 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: Error: "commands" is not a valid command. | 15:21 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: plugins | 15:21 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: Error: "plugins" is not a valid command. | 15:21 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: help help | 15:21 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 15:21 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: help infobot | 15:22 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: Error: There is no command "infobot". | 15:22 |
| Oksanaa | What's the difference between 'not a valid command' and 'no command'? | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nfc | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I think povbot has no (much) useful commands at all | 15:23 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: help version | 15:24 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. | 15:24 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: version | 15:24 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1. | 15:24 |
| KotCzarny | povbot: list | 15:25 |
| povbot | KotCzarny: Admin, Bugzilla, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Lart, Misc, Owner, Praise, Seen, Services, Tail, and User | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | povbot: seen infobot | 15:26 |
| povbot | KotCzarny: infobot was last seen in #maemo 1 day, 23 hours, 39 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <infobot> [scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 15:26 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: help Seen | 15:27 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. | 15:27 |
| KotCzarny | povbot: networks | 15:27 |
| povbot | KotCzarny: Error: "networks" is not a valid command. | 15:27 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: list Seen | 15:27 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: any, last, seen, and user | 15:27 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: list Admin | 15:27 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part | 15:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | meh, have fun! my online time expired | 15:28 |
| Oksanaa | povbot: list config | 15:28 |
| povbot | Oksanaa: channel, config, default, export, help, list, reload, and search | 15:28 |
| Oksanaa | Have good sleep! :-) | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | o.O | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 13:29 | 15:29 |
| Oksanaa | Rest well, then ;-) | 15:29 |
| KotCzarny | povbot: lobotomy list | 15:30 |
| povbot | KotCzarny: I'm not currently lobotomized in any channels that you're in. | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no rest either, simply online ime expires | 15:30 |
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| KotCzarny | povbot: dictionaries | 15:32 |
| povbot | KotCzarny: Error: "dictionaries" is not a valid command. | 15:32 |
| Oksanaa | ^~^ }:<O | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | if you want infobot you either need to contact TimRiker or just wait until *eventually*... | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | /ns info infobot | 15:33 |
| KotCzarny | povbot: channelstats | 15:33 |
| povbot | KotCzarny: Error: "channelstats" is not a valid command. | 15:33 |
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| KotCzarny | well, at least it has seen | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Programmers of Vilnius bot always been merely ment to be a logbot | 15:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Freud helped, it seems | 15:41 |
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| Sicelo | N900-cult ... i guess it also counts knowing what one wants from a mobile device | 16:36 |
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| Sicelo | we have differing needs. Some people aren't interested in anything else but movies, social networking, and web. only other requirement is usually speed :) | 16:44 |
| KotCzarny | and some people have quad core many gigs monsters that spend all the time in their pockets | 16:46 |
| * Sicelo wishes Sony didn't kill their VAIO P-Series :( | 16:46 | |
| KotCzarny | i wouldnt trust sony | 16:46 |
| KotCzarny | it looked nice, had good battery life, but i bet it had many backdoors and spied on users | 16:47 |
| Sicelo | that was not a bad device, imo. for linux we had gfx problems only | 16:47 |
| KotCzarny | not to mention trying to lock up to specific techs | 16:47 |
| Sicelo | vaio p? maybe windows side... you definitely could run linux nicely on it | 16:48 |
| Sicelo | just they used a gfx chip for which intel had no proper linux driver | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | ooh, vaio-p has a nipple | 16:50 |
| * KotCzarny loves nipples | 16:50 | |
| Sicelo | i don't understand what you mean :) | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | you know, you put the finger on it and make it do things | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | https://xkcd.com/243/ | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | oh, lol, gma500 is based on.. wait for it.. PowerVR SGX 535 | 16:53 |
| KotCzarny | now talk about alternative driver support ;) | 16:54 |
| bencoh | yeah, intel completely fucked up with the poulsbo arch | 16:54 |
| KotCzarny | but apparently it got support since 2.6.39 | 16:54 |
| bencoh | s/arch/platform/ | 16:54 |
| KotCzarny | but lacking accel. hum | 16:55 |
| Sicelo | when i saw these little laptops, i fell in love right away. no one makes such stuff anymore :( | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | have you ever seen toshiba portege ? | 16:58 |
| KotCzarny | similar cute factor | 16:59 |
| Sicelo | that?s big, if the images i see on google are anything to go by | 16:59 |
| KotCzarny | there are different models across the years | 16:59 |
| Sicelo | see the size of the vaio .. about same size as a woman's purse | 16:59 |
| Sicelo | so you can pocket it nicely | 17:00 |
| KotCzarny | as i said, browse the porteges | 17:00 |
| * Sicelo is looking | 17:00 | |
| Sicelo | any specific model/year? | 17:00 |
| KotCzarny | browsing too | 17:01 |
| KotCzarny | apparently they went into the thinness department (similar to apple air) | 17:01 |
| Sicelo | G910 seems to be the only small one i see. | 17:02 |
| Sicelo | and that's a phone .. no full-size USB | 17:05 |
| KotCzarny | this one seems smallish (not as that -p tho) http://www.listlaptop.com/review-toshiba-satellite-l735s3220rd-notebook-pa3817u1brs-batteries/3497 | 17:10 |
| KotCzarny | http://www.laptopspec.net/2010/06/toshiba-libretto-w100-7-inch-dual-screen-notebook/ | 17:10 |
| KotCzarny | weird design (kb is 2nd screen) | 17:11 |
| KotCzarny | 200x120x25.4mm | 17:11 |
| KotCzarny | a bit thick but small | 17:12 |
| KotCzarny | i think i meant 'libretto' series, portege is a bit bigger | 17:14 |
| KotCzarny | http://augustin.vidovic.org/pages/l1/ | 17:14 |
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| KotCzarny | also, via also did some ultrasubnotebooks | 17:16 |
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| zGrr | I used to have Toshiba Libretto SS1000 back in old days. It was fantastic. Unfortunately they don't make portable computers like that these days. | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | yes, they do, sometimes | 17:49 |
| zGrr | Do they? Which one? | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | see the ones i've found | 17:50 |
| zGrr | show it | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | above links? | 17:50 |
| zGrr | w100 is to weird. it probably wouldn't work with linux anyway | 17:51 |
| zGrr | and satellite is too bulky | 17:51 |
| KotCzarny | libretto l1/l2/.. are small | 17:51 |
| zGrr | and too heavy | 17:52 |
| bencoh | e145 might suit you if you can find a non-broadcom (wireless) version | 17:52 |
| bencoh | err nevermind, it's much heavier than libretto :) | 17:53 |
| zGrr | KotCzarny: come on, transmeta crusoe? really? | 17:53 |
| KotCzarny | but yeah, vaio-p beats them all in terms of form factor | 17:54 |
| zGrr | allright, maybe small thinkpad would do | 17:54 |
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| zGrr | vaio is a thing of the past | 17:56 |
| zGrr | extremely hard to get one. | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | well, entering umpc into images.google.com returns quite a bit of products | 17:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~wb | 18:40 |
| infobot | thx | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~+uptime | 18:40 |
| infobot | - Uptime for infobot - | 18:40 |
| infobot | Now: 7m 56s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 18:40 |
| infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 18:40 |
| infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 18:40 |
| infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 18:40 |
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| bencoh | yay | 18:58 |
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| parazyd | which gcc can create executables? i got gcc4.6 to compile zsh, but it says it can't create executables | 21:06 |
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| L29Ah | i wonder why n900's sshd lets root in via authorized_keys, but doesn't let user in | 21:09 |
| L29Ah | parazyd: check config.log to find out what's wrong | 21:10 |
| parazyd | L29Ah: same sshd problem too :D | 21:10 |
| Sicelo | L29Ah: works for me | 21:10 |
| Sicelo | check your configs :) | 21:10 |
| parazyd | where's the config.log | 21:11 |
| * Sicelo disabled password login for both root and user | 21:11 | |
| parazyd | oh this config.log | 21:11 |
| parazyd | thought about something in /var | 21:11 |
| parazyd | i'll paste it, 1 sec | 21:12 |
| parazyd | http://sprunge.us/OZCh | 21:12 |
| parazyd | #L29Ah | 21:12 |
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| L29Ah | i've checked sshd's config but it doesn't forbid user to log in | 21:12 |
| L29Ah | parazyd: you suck | 21:13 |
| parazyd | what | 21:13 |
| parazyd | i'm an idiot | 21:13 |
| parazyd | i don't suck :D | 21:13 |
| L29Ah | doesn't matter ;p | 21:14 |
| parazyd | lol | 21:14 |
| L29Ah | line 51 | 21:14 |
| parazyd | what about it | 21:14 |
| Sicelo | L29Ah: have password set for user? (by default there isn't, iirc) | 21:14 |
| L29Ah | no | 21:15 |
| L29Ah | why would i? | 21:15 |
| Sicelo | ah, you're doing keys by the way, lol | 21:15 |
| Sicelo | my mind is on 2 things at same time, sorry | 21:15 |
| L29Ah | the perms are also fine: user:users and rwx------ | 21:15 |
| Sicelo | maybe you also have to paste your sshd_config ;) | 21:17 |
| Sicelo | hopefully you don't turn out to suck to, haha | 21:18 |
| Sicelo | *too | 21:19 |
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| L29Ah | https://bpaste.net/show/3fb0cec5a2f2 | 21:22 |
| L29Ah | double-checked for sucking ;p | 21:22 |
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| Sicelo | :) | 21:26 |
| Sicelo | so what is the exact login failure message? | 21:27 |
| L29Ah | it asks me for password | 21:27 |
| Sicelo | you suck then :D | 21:27 |
| Sicelo | #PasswordAuthentication yes | 21:28 |
| L29Ah | so? | 21:28 |
| Sicelo | should change that to `PasswordAuthentication no` | 21:28 |
| L29Ah | no | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | debug1: Next authentication method: publickey | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/l29ah/.ssh/id_rsa | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279 | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | root login | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | debug1: Next authentication method: publickey | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/l29ah/.ssh/id_rsa | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | user login | 21:29 |
| Sicelo | hmm, | 21:29 |
| L29Ah | PasswordAuthentication has nothing to do with it | 21:29 |
| * L29Ah wonders where does the syslogd init script live | 21:30 | |
| Sicelo | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password | 21:31 |
| Sicelo | debug1: Next authentication method: publickey | 21:31 |
| L29Ah | i don't see the sshd screams in syslog for some reason and no reason for it to be silent in /etc/init.d/sshd, /etc/default/sshd and sshd_config | 21:31 |
| Sicelo | debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/sicelo/.ssh/id_rsa | 21:31 |
| Sicelo | L29Ah: for syslog .. /etc/event.d/ | 21:33 |
| L29Ah | :* | 21:33 |
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| KotCzarny | l29ah: you know you can run sshd manually? | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | with -ddd ? | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | preferably on another port | 21:34 |
| * L29Ah got rusty | 21:35 | |
| L29Ah | anyway the syslog thing is important too ;] | 21:36 |
| KotCzarny | sure, but not on limited rootfs/var | 21:36 |
| Sicelo | you can always clear out the logs if they get too big | 21:37 |
| * Sicelo finds them very useful | 21:37 | |
| L29Ah | a few megabytes is infinity for this matter | 21:39 |
| KotCzarny | unless you get hammered by some scriptbot | 21:39 |
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| L29Ah | User user not allowed because account is locked | 21:41 |
| L29Ah | meh | 21:41 |
| bencoh | passwd? | 21:42 |
| L29Ah | yep | 21:42 |
| bencoh | no I mean, have you changed your user password? | 21:42 |
| L29Ah | KotCzarny: :* | 21:42 |
| L29Ah | no | 21:42 |
| bencoh | then do it with passwd :) | 21:42 |
| L29Ah | s/!/*/ and that's it | 21:42 |
| bencoh | (as root) | 21:42 |
| L29Ah | no | 21:42 |
| bencoh | ah | 21:42 |
| bencoh | that works too :) | 21:42 |
| L29Ah | sorry for the noise | 21:43 |
| * L29Ah even remembers doing the stupid thing before he learnt the difference between ! and * | 21:43 | |
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| L29Ah | meh shitty dbus crap is shitty | 21:45 |
| L29Ah | ssh user@$host 'osso-addressbook-backup -e /tmp/n900.vcf' | 21:45 |
| L29Ah | doesn't work | 21:45 |
| L29Ah | does work via interactive ssh session though | 21:46 |
| KotCzarny | i usually login as root then do su - user | 21:46 |
| Sicelo | i do it other way round :) | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | im talking about n900 specifically | 21:47 |
| Sicelo | actually root not enabled for login (on my N900) | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | i know that in normal situation its the reverse | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | well, i do some sshfs often, so i prefere to keep root enabled | 21:48 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: as for clearing the logs, logrotate | 21:49 |
| Sicelo | i have it :) | 21:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:49 |
| KotCzarny | in another news, switch(a) { case 'x': return y; *47000; } is 2x bigger than just having db[47000][2] and iterating linearly | 21:51 |
| KotCzarny | not to mention compile time, 0.1 vs 15 minutes | 21:51 |
| kerio | wut | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | songlengths db | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | it's a chip thing | 21:52 |
| kerio | 47 *THOUSANDS* switches? | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:52 |
| kerio | whoever wrote that should be shot | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | it worked as expected and fast | 21:53 |
| KotCzarny | only gcc had hard time, but runtime was instant | 21:53 |
| KotCzarny | i thought about rewriting with binary search, but linear is negligibly longer | 21:54 |
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