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| infobot | methinks backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 00:08 |
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| chad | thank you sixwheeledbeast | 00:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | chad: np | 00:26 |
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| jonwil | ok, time to continue with pulseaudio-nokia :P | 00:51 |
| jonwil | I would say that pulseraudio-nokia is the most complicated piece of software I have ever had a hand in reverse engineering (more complex than any of the games I have worked with) | 00:52 |
| jonwil | pali: Do you know of a way to get libbmeipc-dev from your bme repo into scratchbox? If not, we need one somehow so that we can use libbmeipc-dev in pulseaudio-nokia | 00:54 |
| Pali | jonwil: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/bme-replacement/pool/free/libb/libbmeipc/libbmeipc-dev_1.0-2_armel.deb | 00:56 |
| Pali | wget + fakeroot dpkg -i | 00:56 |
| Pali | jonwil: or you can compile it yourself in scratchbox | 00:57 |
| jonwil | That doesn't work, it complains that I need libbmeipc = 1.0-2 | 01:02 |
| jonwil | libbmeipc0 that is | 01:02 |
| jonwil | and libbmeipc0_1.0-2 wont install because it depends on kernel-feature-rx51-battery | 01:03 |
| jonwil | which of course scratchbox doesn't have | 01:03 |
| jonwil | Pali: any ideas? | 01:04 |
| jonwil | also if anyone knows anything I can do on the N900 to help drain the battery faster (I need to drain the battery so it can properly learn its capacity per http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1053809&postcount=846 ) please do say so | 01:05 |
| Pali | edit deb package by hand | 01:05 |
| Pali | -dev package should work fine with stock libbmeipc0 | 01:06 |
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| jonwil | I think for the benefit of being able to compile this stuff going forward, it would be worthwhile to change the official libbmeipc github repo (and then the bme-replacement repo deb file) to remove the specific =(version) bit | 01:10 |
| jonwil | That way anyone can just wget the file and dpkg install it without needing to hand edit things | 01:10 |
| jonwil | Pali: any objections to my suggestion? | 01:11 |
| Pali | yes, removing that =version lock is ok | 01:12 |
| jonwil | ok, do you want to do it or should I edit the repo? | 01:12 |
| jonwil | github repo that is | 01:12 |
| Pali | you can do that | 01:13 |
| jonwil | great, I may also have access to bme-replacement repo (I know I have access to cssu-devel repo which is on same server) | 01:14 |
| jonwil | looks like I have access to it | 01:17 |
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| jonwil | I will push the new libbmepic packages to bme-replacement repo now unless you have any objections | 01:19 |
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| jonwil | ok, its in the repo now :) | 01:24 |
| Pali | :-) | 01:26 |
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| jonwil | freemangordon: ping | 09:40 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil: for battery drain, just run any app that stops screen from blanking and start playing some vid | 09:46 |
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| KotCzarny | transferring data over wifi/cellular also 'helps' | 09:47 |
| KotCzarny | it should be empty in 3-4h | 09:47 |
| KotCzarny | or faster if your battery is a bit old | 09:47 |
| jonwil | its a new battery and I want to drain the battery so the system can learn its real capacity | 09:50 |
| jonwil | :) | 09:50 |
| jonwil | sand so I can find out what its actual capacity is (it claims 1300mAh on the label) | 09:50 |
| Sicelo | maybe just be patient :) .. it will take a couple of cycles before the true capacity is even reflected, especially if your previous battery had much lower capacity | 09:51 |
| Sicelo | bq27200 doesn't allow shift by more than 6% afaik | 09:51 |
| jonwil | what is the rated capacity of a stock N900 battery meant to be? | 09:51 |
| Sicelo | 1320mAh the early ones. apparently in the region of 1400mAh later revisions | 09:52 |
| jonwil | so this 1300mAh (assuming it matches the label) should be fairly close to that | 09:53 |
| jonwil | and better than the 800mAh or so that I seemed to be getting out of my old battery | 09:53 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, i think its ~12% | 09:55 |
| KotCzarny | and more in the 'more' direction | 09:55 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil, what battery brand? | 09:55 |
| jonwil | Its sold by Battery World (a big chain here in Australa) | 09:56 |
| jonwil | Australia | 09:56 |
| KotCzarny | so noname? | 09:56 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 09:56 |
| jonwil | yeah | 09:56 |
| KotCzarny | ugh | 09:56 |
| KotCzarny | best wishes | 09:56 |
| jonwil | well these guys have a good reputation for the quality of all their phone batteries | 09:56 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, original nokia batteries are good | 09:57 |
| KotCzarny | and if my original one (already 6 years old and still good) dies im going for polarcell | 09:57 |
| jonwil | these guys wouldn't have been in business as long as they have if their batteries (they sell batteries for everything from cars to laptops to phones of every brand) weren't up to snuff | 09:58 |
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| KotCzarny | still, if your battery testes out good, you might need to post about it (there are tmo threads) | 09:59 |
| KotCzarny | but make sure it holds the charge after few months | 09:59 |
| KotCzarny | many nonames are good initially but lose capacity fast | 09:59 |
| Sicelo | sometimes used original may be better option ... situations vary of course | 10:01 |
| jonwil | ok, turns out they aren't a no-name chinese battery but in fact made by these guys http://www.master-instruments.com.au/ | 10:02 |
| jonwil | who seem to make batteries for everything known to man | 10:02 |
| jonwil | so definatly not some unknown chinese factory making knockoff crap | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:03 |
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| jonwil | pulling a full copy of my N900 filesystem over sftp via WiFi (as a backup) should drain some juice from this thing I bet | 10:09 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 10:09 |
| KotCzarny | but keep screen on too | 10:09 |
| jonwil | but yeah the battery only cost me $40 (Australian dollars that is) so its not like I am out massive amounts of money if it turns out to start going south in 6 months | 10:10 |
| KotCzarny | well, polarcells are ~10usd | 10:10 |
| jonwil | plus shipping I assume | 10:11 |
| KotCzarny | ~polarcell | 10:11 |
| infobot | i guess polarcell is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement | 10:11 |
| KotCzarny | woah, they bumped the price | 10:12 |
| jonwil | ugh, eBay :P | 10:12 |
| Sicelo | bought my used original for USD 2.00 :p .. works like a charm | 10:12 |
| KotCzarny | free shipping to australia | 10:12 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: but that's a lottery, you never know what you will get, still, 2usd is cheap | 10:13 |
| jonwil | The main thing is that I needed one now and not in whenever the slow boat from Europe or China gets here with the replacement from eBay | 10:13 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:13 |
| jonwil | hence the decision to go out yesterday and buy this one | 10:13 |
| Sicelo | yes. it was DocScrutinizer51 advice, which made perfect sense to me | 10:14 |
| KotCzarny | well, it says you could get it by dec 3rd | 10:14 |
| jonwil | having just spent $40 on this one, why would I want to go and buy a polarcell as well :) | 10:14 |
| jonwil | if this one doesn't last, I can invetigate my options :) | 10:15 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil, because more n900s? | 10:15 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:15 |
| Sicelo | and, unfortunately, not all of us have access to international payment options | 10:15 |
| Sicelo | i'd love that polarcell | 10:16 |
| jonwil | I own just the one N900 :) | 10:16 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil, start looking for another! ;) | 10:16 |
| jonwil | I had one battery that was a genuine Nokia that came with the phone then the second battery which looks like this http://static.snipesoft.net.nz/images/full/5/8/58cd2b31-c1d3-9eb3-1f2a-7a3a03262c1d-10948.jpeg then the new one | 10:18 |
| KotCzarny | he he, cell made in china | 10:18 |
| Sicelo | i like that spin-off .. it states clearly its origin | 10:19 |
| Sicelo | :) | 10:19 |
| jonwil | I have doubts that the second one (in the picture) actually held 1320mAh even when it was new | 10:19 |
| jonwil | It looks just like the Nokia battery but without the Nokia name or the hologram, even the text on the back is identical | 10:20 |
| jonwil | suggesting whoever made it wanted people to think it was similar to the Nokia one | 10:21 |
| jonwil | whereas my new one is clearly labeled totally differently | 10:22 |
| jonwil | which suggests the company that made it is not trying to bs people into thinking its a Nokia | 10:22 |
| KotCzarny | hologram isnt necessary | 10:23 |
| jonwil | right now I want to figure out why hal-device bme says battery.reporting.current is 629mAh but bq27200.sh shows NAC/CACD/CACT of only 266 | 10:28 |
| KotCzarny | jonwil: what is value of CI flag? | 10:28 |
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| jonwil | all flags are zero except VDQ | 10:28 |
| jonwil | VDQ being set to 1 being part of the learning process | 10:29 |
| jonwil | i.e. a VDQ of 1 being necessary for learning | 10:29 |
| jonwil | this is the complete output of hal-device bme and bq27200.sh | 10:30 |
| jonwil | http://pastebin.com/299WaBbV | 10:30 |
| Sicelo | i personally trust bq27200 better :) | 10:32 |
| jonwil | well right now bq27200 probably has no idea of actual settings of the battery, hence the learning | 10:32 |
| jonwil | the real test will be if the on-screen battery gauge jumps a few bars down like it has been before with the other battery | 10:34 |
| jonwil | going wierd | 10:34 |
| KotCzarny | big battery drops means bad battery usually | 10:35 |
| KotCzarny | (assuming current doesnt vary) | 10:35 |
| jonwil | The weirdest thing is that there were times when it would be flashing red and "low battery" noise but it would then (without ever plugging it into a charger) end up green again | 10:36 |
| jonwil | The laws of physics mean its impossible for a battery to spontaniously increase its charge level without being connected to a charger | 10:37 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, definitely old battery | 10:37 |
| KotCzarny | with big internal resistance | 10:37 |
| jonwil | Its getting on 2 years old or so now | 10:38 |
| jonwil | the fact that its showing signs of death after just 2 years confirms the "battery was crap from day one" throry | 10:38 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:38 |
| KotCzarny | also, i love how n900 helps discharging battery faster with constant 'low battery' and turning on the screen | 10:39 |
| KotCzarny | when blinking red led would be sufficient | 10:39 |
| jonwil | I bet you could modify whatever UI layer component that does the low battery warnings and disable that stuff | 10:41 |
| jonwil | BME isn't the one doing the UI stuff | 10:41 |
| jonwil | I dont think it does the audio either | 10:42 |
| jonwil | the LED comes from MCE (which we have as FOSS) | 10:42 |
| jonwil | status-area-applet-battery probably does some of it | 10:42 |
| KotCzarny | is it foss in stock too? | 10:42 |
| jonwil | MCE is not foss in stock, its been cloned by me at great effort | 10:42 |
| jonwil | see https://github.com/community-ssu/mce/ :) | 10:42 |
| KotCzarny | nice | 10:43 |
| KotCzarny | still, would be nice to pinpoint it | 10:43 |
| jonwil | definatly one of the more complex pieces of software I have ever been involved in reverse engineering | 10:43 |
| jonwil | although the nokia pulseaudio blobs (which I am working on at the moment) are more complex by a long way :) | 10:44 |
| jonwil | status-area-applet-battery has been cloned too https://github.com/community-ssu/status-area-applet-battery | 10:44 |
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| jonwil | and yep, thats where the audio comes from | 10:45 |
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| jonwil | plays the "charging started" sound, the "battery low" sound and the "battery dead, recharge it now" sound | 10:46 |
| KotCzarny | i have sounds disabled | 10:46 |
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| KotCzarny | but there wasnt a way to disable the notification | 10:46 |
| KotCzarny | would be great to have such functionality (and blinking red led) | 10:46 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: hi! bad battery, ain't? | 10:46 |
| jonwil | looks like the battery I used to use (the one sitting on my deak next to me) may be bad. The new one I bought yesterday seems to be working well so far | 10:47 |
| jonwil | as in, none of the symptoms of the old battery | 10:47 |
| jonwil | wild swings in the battery meter bars level | 10:47 |
| jonwil | including going back to green from red | 10:48 |
| jonwil | none of those have happened wuth the new battery | 10:48 |
| jonwil | with | 10:48 |
| jonwil | Getting close to finishing thread_func | 10:48 |
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| freemangordon | great. I hope to find a couple of hours today to RE some more gunctions | 10:49 |
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| jonwil | that would be good :) | 10:50 |
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| jonwil | Just need to finish cloning voice_cmt_dl_activate and voice_cmt_ul_activate and thread_func should be done | 10:53 |
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| jonwil | btw I sorted out all the temperature/bmeipc stuff now | 10:55 |
| jonwil | we have way to use libbmeipc-dev in scratchbox now after I fixed it | 10:56 |
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| jonwil | I also found out that trying to debug pulseaudio with gdb (which I was doing to test certain code paths) is a bad idea | 10:59 |
| jonwil | then I found out how to get maemo pulseaudio to give me logs and found the info I needed :) | 10:59 |
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| jonwil | ok, thread_func should be done now :) | 11:08 |
| jonwil | its very nice of Nokia to leave all those handy log functions in there :) | 11:09 |
| * jonwil cant believe that for the first time ever he actually WANTS his battery to go flat :) | 11:21 | |
| KotCzarny | just focus on something else | 11:21 |
| KotCzarny | it will go empty anyway | 11:21 |
| jonwil | I need to keep an eye on it so I can do the right steps and check the right things just as it gets close to empty | 11:22 |
| KotCzarny | write a script that will play sound when coming close to empty? | 11:24 |
| jonwil | its almost empty | 11:24 |
| jonwil | so I can sit here and watch this full file dump keep going and it will go empty any minute now | 11:24 |
| KotCzarny | script idea: enable screen, play some vid, transfer data over wifi, then start watching capacity, then when close to empty stop those tasks and inform user | 11:25 |
| jonwil | freemangordon: Now that I have finished thread_func and bits, I have done basically everything I can do on -voice for now | 11:25 |
| Sicelo | 10:59 < jonwil> then I found out how to get maemo pulseaudio to give me logs and found the info I needed :) <= how is this done? | 11:27 |
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| jonwil | you edit /etc/event.d/pulseaudio, change the command line parameters (including redirecting output of pulseaudio binary to a file) and do initctl stop pulseaudio initctl start pulseaudio | 11:28 |
| jonwil | that's how I logged all the debug logs from pulseaudio | 11:28 |
| Sicelo | thanks for sharing :) | 11:28 |
| jonwil | do you have a need to look at the pulseaudio output for some reason? | 11:29 |
| Sicelo | not currently .. but you never know when a need might arise | 11:29 |
| jonwil | :) | 11:29 |
| Sicelo | syslog generally contains most of what i need, but in future something different may be needed | 11:30 |
| jonwil | the output I got is all from pa_log_xxx statements | 11:31 |
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| jonwil | there is supposedly some way to send that to syslog but I couldn't make that work hence the "let it display on stdout and redirect to a file" idea | 11:31 |
| jonwil | mostly I was using it to verify debug logs comming from thread_func against the matching debug logs comming from voice_mainloop_handler_process_msg | 11:31 |
| jonwil | to make sure thread_func was sending the correct messages :) | 11:32 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: GREAT JOB!!! | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | I am really glad you're back on board :) | 12:29 |
| jonwil | I have done as much work on -voice as I can for now | 12:31 |
| freemangordon | ok, will take it from here, will pester you if I see something you can do ;) | 12:32 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup_: ^^^ | 12:32 |
| jonwil | I have no idea if all the work I have done is 100% correct 9that comes with testing once we have something testable) but I did the best job I could | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | yes, thats normal | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | BTW, could you assert(0) in the functions you think are incomplete, if there are such | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | just to not forget about those | 12:33 |
| jonwil | there are none that are incomplete | 12:34 |
| jonwil | wait no | 12:34 |
| jonwil | the stuff that still needs cloning is in status.txt | 12:34 |
| jonwil | but everything in voice-cmtspeech.c should be done baring bugs | 12:34 |
| freemangordon | ok | 12:35 |
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| Wizzup_ | freemangordon, jonwil: Great! I still hope to be able to join in soonish... Terrifing deadline coming tuesday morning, but after that I should have some more peace | 12:37 |
| freemangordon | great, another helping hand will greatly speed-up what's left to be done. I think we have something like half of the gode REed | 12:38 |
| freemangordon | *code | 12:38 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: ^^^ what do you think? | 12:38 |
| jonwil | yes the more people we can have the better | 12:45 |
| jonwil | The way things are going we may be able to deliver a nice xmas present to the maemo community in the form of a fully-cloned pulseaudio-nokia :) | 12:46 |
| jonwil | and my phone just finished discharging and is now charging again | 12:48 |
| Vajb | is there a way to make maemo default im client show facebook group convos? | 12:48 |
| jonwil | last measured discharge is a very respectable 1446mAh | 12:48 |
| jonwil | so that sounds positive for my ability to get a full days use out of my N900 again | 12:49 |
| Vajb | last measured discharge 2196mah =) | 12:49 |
| jonwil | you got one of those super-high-capacity batteries or something? | 12:49 |
| Vajb | lasts about day in my use | 12:50 |
| Vajb | i have mugen | 12:50 |
| jonwil | ok | 12:50 |
| jonwil | you must be using it as a media player or something | 12:50 |
| Vajb | made my phone to look more like me :) | 12:50 |
| jonwil | something I dont do | 12:50 |
| Vajb | yes i listen to music or audiobooks while i work | 12:50 |
| Vajb | also have irssi running constantly | 12:51 |
| Vajb | and occasionally stream radio | 12:51 |
| jonwil | I use it for skype but only when I am at home and can keep it on charger if I want to | 12:51 |
| jonwil | when I am out I mostly use it for checking email & various forums and things | 12:51 |
| jonwil | and also for e.g. google searches | 12:51 |
| jonwil | and of course phone calls | 12:51 |
| jonwil | and for games to play when on bus/train | 12:52 |
| Vajb | but to be honest i kinda like thicker back side. Makes typing feel more comfortable since i have long fingers | 12:52 |
| KotCzarny | i use mine as a phone mainly, and as audio player (with fm transmitter) in the car | 12:52 |
| KotCzarny | and sometimes to debug things via ssh | 12:52 |
| Vajb | i made e-mail checks happen over night when it's plugged in charger | 12:52 |
| jonwil | anyhow, after the work I have done on pulseaudio-nokia, now I have to figure out my next target... | 12:54 |
| KotCzarny | dont forget about 80/20 | 12:54 |
| Wizzup_ | Pali: Do you have a patchset on top of a newer kernel? (on github/pali/linux-n900) | 12:55 |
| Pali | not yet | 12:55 |
| Vajb | jonwil: maybe group message support for default im client ;) | 12:56 |
| Wizzup_ | Pali: no rush :) | 12:57 |
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| Sicelo | Vajb: we're lucky we still have FB chat on N900. "officially" that service was stopped. pidgin can no longer connect (last i tried). not sure how telepathy does it as it still works also on pc | 13:12 |
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| jonwil | Getting a "last measured discharge" learn value of 1446mAh on a battery that is labeled "1300mAh" is pretty good in my book :) | 13:25 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:25 |
| jonwil | The makers of this battery definatly aren't overstating the capacity here :) | 13:25 |
| KotCzarny | time will tel | 13:25 |
| KotCzarny | l | 13:25 |
| jonwil | :) | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | if it stays at this afteer 6 months, then you can add the info to the wiki | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:26 |
| jonwil | as for Facebook, I dont use it and dont like it so I have zero interest in any of the Facebook stuff on N900 | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | Pali: hi! | 13:29 |
| Pali | hi! | 13:29 |
| Vajb | Sicelo: n900 works in miraculous ways :) | 13:29 |
| freemangordon | atags drama on linux-omap, again :D | 13:30 |
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| parazyd | is there a specific channel for n900 or should i use this one? | 13:31 |
| parazyd | hello btw. :) | 13:31 |
| KotCzarny | this one | 13:32 |
| freemangordon | Pali: what do you think about https://github.com/community-ssu/libbmeipc/commit/02359ac49c964759b98d187b2f7db21a0b6d6eb0 , should we keep it like that, or it should be changed to libbmeipc0 (= ${binary:Version}) | libbmeipc0 (= $FREMANTLE_PR_VERSION) | 13:32 |
| jonwil | I was the one who talked to pali about it earlier | 13:33 |
| jonwil | and he OK'd the change at that point | 13:33 |
| Pali | yep, thats ok | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | ah, ok | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | I've missed it | 13:34 |
| jonwil | back to having nothing to work on :P | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | oh, shit, qemu was upgraded, have to reboot for SB to work again :( | 13:35 |
| parazyd | so, the gpg keys from the repos i'm using are expired | 13:35 |
| parazyd | i can't update anything | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | what keys? | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | gpg shouldnt stop you from updating | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 13:35 |
| infobot | maemo-repos is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | missing packages might | 13:35 |
| parazyd | maybe | 13:35 |
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| parazyd | this happens: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yxKfzvzK | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | harmless | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | W: is just a warning | 13:38 |
| KotCzarny | also, you have maemo-repos.com | 13:39 |
| KotCzarny | which i dont know about | 13:39 |
| KotCzarny | and what software it has | 13:39 |
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| jonwil | looks like maemo-repos.com is just one of the many mirrors of the now-dead nokia repos | 13:58 |
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| KotCzarny | no info who owns it tho | 14:02 |
| Sicelo | i forgot who .. but that also has harmattan stuff. that's the one i use | 14:02 |
| Sicelo | i think also N700-8x0 stuff too, but might be wrong on this | 14:04 |
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| parazyd | following CSSU-thumb thread - stable Thumb2 on N900, i successfully installed cssu | 15:45 |
| parazyd | how do i overclock now? | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | ~overclock | 15:46 |
| infobot | I overclock in winter to keep dpkg's toes warm. | 15:46 |
| parazyd | kernel-config isn't found | 15:46 |
| parazyd | kek | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | ~oc | 15:46 |
| infobot | it has been said that oc is an Optical Carrier, An OC1 has 672 channels or 44.736 Mbit/s | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, oc is discouraged | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | there is a power.ini in /etc tho | 15:46 |
| parazyd | i'm cold | 15:46 |
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| KotCzarny | or was it power.conf | 15:47 |
| parazyd | there isn't | 15:47 |
| parazyd | there's powervr.ini, but doesn't look like the thing | 15:47 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 15:47 |
| KotCzarny | /etc/pmconfig | 15:48 |
| KotCzarny | this is the file | 15:48 |
| parazyd | oh thanks! | 15:48 |
| parazyd | do i need to do anything after editing? | 15:49 |
| KotCzarny | dont remember, reboot? | 15:49 |
| KotCzarny | i dont know which service reads this file | 15:49 |
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| KotCzarny | so easiest is to just reboot | 15:49 |
| parazyd | a reboot should do i guess... yeah | 15:50 |
| KotCzarny | you might also just go into /sys/ | 15:50 |
| KotCzarny | and change cpufreq directly | 15:50 |
| BluesLee_ | ~seen DocScrutinizer05 | 15:50 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer05 is currently on #n9 (8h 44s) #qi-hardware (8h 44s) #maemo (8h 44s) #harmattan (8h 44s) #openmoko-cdevel (8h 44s) #infobot (8h 44s) #openmoko (8h 44s) #neo900 (8h 44s), last said: '~+uptime'. | 15:50 |
| parazyd | nah... | 15:50 |
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| Sicelo | parazyd: install kernel-config separately .. it is part of kernel-power-settings | 16:16 |
| Sicelo | and does not necessarily need thumb :p | 16:16 |
| parazyd | Sicelo: but won't it pull a new kernel? | 16:16 |
| Sicelo | no. does not pull kernels. so what kernel you're on? | 16:16 |
| parazyd | i want the thumb kernel | 16:16 |
| parazyd | cssu3 thumb2 | 16:17 |
| KotCzarny | i think thumb kernel is the same as cssu-testing | 16:17 |
| parazyd | Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-cssu3 | 16:17 |
| Sicelo | dunno that one :) | 16:18 |
| Sicelo | self-compiled? | 16:18 |
| parazyd | this one: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84829 | 16:19 |
| parazyd | but anyway, looks like it didn't pull a new kernel :) | 16:19 |
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| Vajb | hmm. My phone just switched off without no reason.... | 18:44 |
| Vajb | i could have pressed the power button since pockets r quite tight | 18:44 |
| Vajb | but im not sure..... | 18:44 |
| Vajb | scary | 18:44 |
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| kerio | Vajb: 2spoopy4me | 19:09 |
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| Sicelo | there's a post on tmo showing the N900 boot sequence step by step. can't find it through google now. anyone has an idea about the link? | 20:33 |
| NIN101 | http://213.128.137.28/showthread.php?t=87959 this? | 20:47 |
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| Sicelo | thanks NIN101. yes, that one :) | 20:52 |
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| Pali | jonwil: hi | 22:26 |
| Pali | jonwil: can you add verbose message to wl1251-cal binary? | 22:26 |
| Pali | similar what print original nokia version | 22:27 |
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| jonwil | I can do that once I fix this very wierd problem with my N900 :) | 22:32 |
| jonwil | Somehow something has been triggered such that it thinks there is a USB connected when there is not | 22:33 |
| jonwil | More specifically, if I boot the phone with no USB, it displays a very dim Nokia logo for about 5s then the status LED goes full yellow before fading out | 22:34 |
| Pali | do you have new version of hildon usb status bar? | 22:34 |
| Pali | or bme replacement? | 22:34 |
| jonwil | So yeah it looks like when it boots Nolo somehow sees a phantom USB cable that isn't there | 22:35 |
| Pali | there is some bug in usb status bar or in hald bme replacement which cause that statusbar sometimes show usb even if is not conncted | 22:35 |
| Pali | hm... thats something different | 22:35 |
| jonwil | if it wont even boot, it cant be a status bar gadget :) | 22:36 |
| Pali | this is userspace HAL or hildon problem | 22:36 |
| jonwil | I can get it to boot with cable conneced where it boots into nolo-emergency-charge then act-dead state | 22:36 |
| jonwil | and from there into full phone boot if I press power | 22:37 |
| jonwil | but with no cable connected, the phone just wont start | 22:37 |
| jonwil | no I am not running BME replacement or hildon-status-bar-usb replacement | 22:37 |
| jonwil | I am running status-area-applet-battery replacement | 22:37 |
| jonwil | but I dont see how that would be at fault... | 22:37 |
| jonwil | If there was a way to do it from a Windows 7 x64 machine, I would try a reflash | 22:38 |
| jonwil | I am stumped, I need to be able to boot my phone from off state with no charger around | 22:39 |
| jonwil | charger/cable | 22:39 |
| jonwil | or else I am screwed | 22:39 |
| Sicelo | no way to reflash from win7 x64? sounds strange | 22:40 |
| kerio | Pali: have you moved to openbsd yet? :3 | 22:40 |
| Pali | if there is libusb library for win7 x86 you can use my 0xFFFF | 22:40 |
| Pali | no openbsd | 22:41 |
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| jonwil | Do I need to flash emmc or will flashing just fiasco work? | 22:52 |
| Pali | flashing emmc is not needed... | 22:52 |
| jonwil | ok | 22:52 |
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| Pali | just only if you break MyDocs | 22:52 |
| Pali | and need to wipe and format MyDocs | 22:53 |
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| kerio | Pali: freebsd? :3 | 22:53 |
| Pali | nope, did not move | 22:53 |
| * jonwil is so happy people have mirrored all the important parts of the maemo ecosystem | 22:54 | |
| jonwil | good thing is that I found instructions to get the official flasher working on Windows 7 x64 with the right libusb version | 22:57 |
| jonwil | just need to wait for the firmware to finish downloading :) | 22:57 |
| Sicelo009N | is there anything that would stop us moving to gstreamer1.x on N900? | 22:57 |
| jonwil | Depends on what closed source software links to gstreamer | 22:58 |
| Sicelo009N | ok. trying to learn to use gstreamer and they are on 1.6 | 22:59 |
| jonwil | ok, flashing N900 now | 23:02 |
| jonwil | lets hope this works | 23:03 |
| jonwil | its up to "erasing CMT" | 23:03 |
| jonwil | ok, it flashed and is rebooting. | 23:04 |
| jonwil | lets hope this works then I can start reinstalling things on the phone | 23:04 |
| jonwil | works as in solves my "wont boot without cable" problem | 23:04 |
| jonwil | crap, that did NOT make it start booting without cable | 23:07 |
| jonwil | or flip whatever bit in the hw is making it think there is a cable plugged in when there isn't | 23:07 |
| jonwil | this is bad | 23:07 |
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| jonwil | now to restore my N900 to what it was before :) | 23:12 |
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| jonwil | well the installed crap and settings anyway even if I can seem to solve this rather critical hardware issue :P | 23:13 |
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