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| Sicelo | Oksana: portrait can have it's own completely dfferent background | 00:05 |
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| Oksana | Hmm... Nice to know | 00:08 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | I have a carbon fiber effect that doesn't matter if landscape or portrait etc. | 00:28 |
| Oksana | I would have liked to have photos which connect seamlessly in both directions, but it's nearly impossible. | 00:29 |
| Oksana | As it is, my eye was caught by https://www.flickr.com/photos/pinksherbet/4853010035 . Would be funny as portrait-oriented wallpapers, even if blurred-grass does not connect seamlessly with not-blurred grass... | 00:30 |
| Oksana | This one has potential as well, but alas, also only as portrait-oriented. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Salade_de_fraises.jpg | 00:34 |
| klopsi-u3 | hm | 00:35 |
| Oksana | Sicelo: so how to do it? I imagine that theme_bg.desktop should be edited? | 00:39 |
| Oksana | Or is it like two separate wallpapers (not landscape+portrait in one wallpaper, but landscape.desktop and portrait.desktop separately) ? | 00:43 |
| klopsi-u3 | dunno | 00:45 |
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| Oksana | Files missing! Why weren't they attached to the post directly? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75399 /interested in desktop file, mainly/ | 00:54 |
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| Oksana | Experimentation says that one theme can have only one desktop file, aka named theme_bg.desktop. So both landscape and portrait need to be put into one desktop file, somehow... | 01:05 |
| klopsi-u3 | i only have landscape mode and default themes | 01:05 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | I have know idea, I wouldn't even no if that is documented somewhere. | 01:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I recall clock and HAM backgrounds having an xyz_portrait.png file somewhere, but I don't think it's related to wallpapers. | 01:17 |
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| Oksana | Also, lockslider-portrait.png ;-) | 01:26 |
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| * Oksana does not know how to open a file in TuxPaint. I mean, drawing is nice and jolly, but where in magic is the "open a png" button? | 04:10 | |
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| Anasko | find with understanding of -printf : which package? I got cp with understanding of --remove-destination from coreutils-gnu (and yes, I had to modify $PATH to be able to see it) | 04:22 |
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| Anasko | Okay, findutils-gnu it is... | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Anasko about jrtools | 06:38 |
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| ceene | Oksana: what you want to do (to get notes from sound) is an spectogram | 10:24 |
| ceene | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram | 10:25 |
| ceene | it's easy to do with matlab, probably octave | 10:25 |
| ceene | for anything different than a solo instrument it'll probably be very complicated and you'll need help from a musician | 10:25 |
| KotCzarny | musician wouldnt need spectrogram anyway | 10:26 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:26 |
| ceene | http://www.drawmusic.com/Transcribing-Music/002-Seeing-Features/ | 10:27 |
| ceene | that's a cool article too | 10:27 |
| ceene | KotCzarny: probably not, but i guess and spectogram will always be of help | 10:27 |
| KotCzarny | one doesnt have to be a musician to decode fft | 10:41 |
| KotCzarny | record instrument playing different notes then compare peaks | 10:41 |
| KotCzarny | then write them and select which one belong to tune and which are just arrangement | 10:41 |
| APic | ceene: Very cool, yeah | 10:42 |
| * APic bookmarks | 10:42 | |
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| Sicelo | Oksana: re - portrait wallpapers .. just put device in portrait and change your wallpaper. alternatively, use gconf, but number workspaces from 10 | 10:53 |
| Sicelo | /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/views/10 | 10:53 |
| Sicelo | enable this feature first via 'gconftool-2 -s /apps/hildon-desktop/portrait_wallpaper -t bool true' | 10:56 |
| Sicelo | it's documented in https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable#hildon-desktop | 10:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: I think there are several programs that already do this (spectrum analysis, correlate and suppress harmonics, then transcode base frequencies to notes | 11:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I think those programs can handle polyphonic music, when they are smart they even can distinguish instruments and separate their notes, by analyzing the harmonics | 11:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's one program that even allows correction of a single wrong key on piano in an orchester | 11:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or alternatively transpose a complete single instrument in a mixed audio signal | 11:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course it's a tiny bit on the expensive side, and probably too sophisticated for simple note transscription | 11:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but it definitely can get done to filter out a particular instrument with each single not it plays, from a complex music audio | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/not it/note it/ | 11:31 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: but it definitely can get done to filter out a particular instrument with each single note it plays, from a complex music audio | 11:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://scorecloud.com/ | 11:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | manual transcription helper: http://www.seventhstring.com/xscribe | 11:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>The software employs the most intelligent technology available today to convert up to 16 instruments or notes at a time into multiple staves, with up to four voices per staff.<< http://www.sibelius.com/products/audioscore/ultimate.html | 11:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: http://connect.avid.com/AudioScoreUltimate-Demo.html | 11:51 |
| klopsi-u3 | ty DocScrutinizer05 | 11:53 |
| klopsi-u3 | amazing stuff | 11:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((correction of a single wrong key on piano; transpose a complete single instrument)) this is a program that's meant for audio postprocessing in studios and doesn't necessarily handle written notes, it's an extremely smart audio editor, and I for the life of mine can't recall the name | 11:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just the price which iirc was in the 4 to 5 digits ballpark | 11:58 |
| Sicelo | that makes it 6-7 digits for me | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yet another one: http://www.intelliscore.net/faq.html#Q2 | 12:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, the editor I meant is *probably* Celemony's "Melodyne editor" | 12:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "Direct Note Access" | 12:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cheaper than I thought | 12:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://youtu.be/jFCjv4_jqAY?t=111 | 12:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiW6XVFeFgo | 13:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that's really amazing stuff | 13:16 |
| klopsi-u3 | science, jo! | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Sensation-auf-der-Musikmesse-Wave-Daten-wie-MIDI-veraendern-Update-189909.html | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | didn't look into it since back when in 2008/9 | 13:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | black magic! | 13:20 |
| klopsi-u3 | it is the future! | 13:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | DUH! http://www.celemony.com/de/trial | 13:27 |
| klopsi-u3 | hy duh? | 13:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | why? because it sounds like 30 days of extreme fun :-D | 13:53 |
| klopsi-u3 | duh! usually means you saw or did something stupid | 13:56 |
| klopsi-u3 | but thanks for the link | 13:56 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if that thing would work (and how long) in a windows VM of which you do a paused snapshot with the melodyne started, which you use to start up the VM later | 13:59 | |
| KotCzarny | if you want to cheat you can simply find a crack | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | its your morals | 14:05 |
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| ceene | easier than that, you can just change datetime | 15:25 |
| KotCzarny | ceene, its not about subverting the protection, but your morals | 15:32 |
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| kerio | change your morals' datetime | 15:42 |
| kerio | just don't go too far in the past or slavery becomes ok | 15:42 |
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| KotCzarny | what about the future? | 15:48 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 16:19 |
| klopsi-u3 | allo zGrr | 16:20 |
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| zGrr | ehlo klopsi-u3 | 16:21 |
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| totalizator | (15:47) < JollaHQ> [9b] Limited time #SLUSH15 SPECIAL offer: #Jolla smartphone powered with #SailfishOS 2.0 for €169.00 from our online shop https://t.co/kKO93iLWC4 | 17:07 |
| totalizator | <shop.jolla.com> | 17:07 |
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| totalizator | BTW this is what my N900 did the day I bought a new phone :3 http://imgur.com/v6EzmYD | 17:21 |
| kerio | he was angry | 17:21 |
| kerio | you betrayed him | 17:21 |
| kerio | SHAME | 17:21 |
| totalizator | it definitely has soul, yup | 17:22 |
| klopsi-u3 | hehe | 17:22 |
| totalizator | it was just a glitch and reboot solved the problem, but still | 17:22 |
| klopsi-u3 | n900 does all i want except speedy webbrowsing | 17:23 |
| totalizator | aye, the biggest flaw | 17:23 |
| totalizator | not even close to the Android 2.x browsers - I had my fingers crossed for a browser port like this but it never came | 17:24 |
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| totalizator | and it was too much to bare for a daily usage | 17:25 |
| KotCzarny | totalizator: selling that n900? | 17:28 |
| totalizator | for the n-th time: NEVAH! :3 | 17:29 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 17:29 |
| totalizator | KotCzarny: plus small reminder : still waiting for a proper source of oscp to be included in Arch AUR etc. - plzzzzz | 17:31 |
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| KotCzarny | on a positive note i've started tidying up build system, so its a step in that direction | 17:35 |
| totalizator | yay | 17:37 |
| totalizator | take your time but definitely release it someday | 17:38 |
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| KotCzarny | on the negative side, user feedback is 0 | 17:45 |
| totalizator | no widely available = no feedback, sry - sad but true | 17:52 |
| totalizator | usually people are installing multimedia apps and they expect to get a final product | 17:53 |
| totalizator | it works - cool, if not - delete, move on | 17:53 |
| KotCzarny | well, its quite complete as it is, still, when developing user feedback is useful | 17:55 |
| totalizator | but you are limited to Maemo "fan base" - so rly, you expect a feedback from ...the dead? | 17:56 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 17:57 |
| totalizator | think like: 1 of 100 users will give you feedback | 17:57 |
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| sach | I sold my N900 a year ago. How are things holding up? | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | well, i've thought n900 community is better than others | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | sach, good, how about you? | 18:00 |
| sach | Pretty good! | 18:00 |
| totalizator | OT: can I connect usb hub and charge N900 in the same time? | 18:03 |
| KotCzarny | probably | 18:04 |
| KotCzarny | but i dont know and i haven't tried | 18:11 |
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| Sicelo | totalizator: yes, you can | 18:20 |
| totalizator | oh? | 18:21 |
| totalizator | without black magick wizardry? | 18:22 |
| Sicelo | which usb host method you use? if using Pali's, it's automatic | 18:22 |
| totalizator | dunno, I've got this applet where I switch the usb mode | 18:24 |
| Sicelo | that's Pali's | 18:24 |
| Sicelo | if you were using h-e-n, it still works, but iirc you would have to turn off vbus. it's been a while since i did it that way, so i might not exactly be correct | 18:25 |
| totalizator | ok, then what, is this enough to connect a powered usb hub then? | 18:28 |
| Sicelo | lol. yes | 18:28 |
| totalizator | huh, can't be! :3 | 18:28 |
| totalizator | thanks, I have to try | 18:29 |
| Sicelo | that N900 screen ... looks bad. why not put a screen protector on it? | 18:30 |
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| totalizator | it escalated quickly :3 I meant the protective surface peeling | 18:58 |
| totalizator | so I decided that there is no point | 18:58 |
| KotCzarny | there is point | 19:00 |
| totalizator | protectirs are overrated | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | n900's screen gets peeled badly without the protector | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | also, protector requires perfectly clean screen when applying | 19:01 |
| totalizator | I don't mind scratches etc. as long as the screen in in one piece | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | mine still looks like new | 19:03 |
| KotCzarny | and for 6 years its my second protector | 19:03 |
| totalizator | looks like new but you can't touch it - my answer: no | 19:07 |
| totalizator | I would buy tempered glass - yes | 19:08 |
| totalizator | as the feel is same as without it | 19:09 |
| totalizator | but you need capacitive screen for it | 19:10 |
| totalizator | also, it's more like creack protection | 19:11 |
| totalizator | BTW N900 digitizer is like $3 :D | 19:11 |
| totalizator | brand new | 19:11 |
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| KotCzarny | totalizator, sure, but where did you get the idea that i cant touch it? | 19:32 |
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| KotCzarny | once protector is applied you use it the same way as original | 19:33 |
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| totalizator | the feel and responsiveness is never the same | 19:33 |
| totalizator | I'm telling my preferences, nothing more | 19:34 |
| KotCzarny | same here | 19:34 |
| KotCzarny | i havent noticed screen being different in touch or responsiveness | 19:34 |
| totalizator | also the scratches on the protector are way more visible which can be annoying | 19:36 |
| totalizator | there is slight chance that I have factory protector on my N800 :3 | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | what scratches? | 19:37 |
| totalizator | when the screen is being turned off you can see every swipe the device had all it's life | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | there are few kinds of protectors | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | hard ones, soft ones | 19:37 |
| totalizator | IknowIknow | 19:38 |
| totalizator | and have you seen the tempered glass for mobiles? | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | well, htc hero had one by default :P | 19:39 |
| KotCzarny | didnt know one can get it for n900 | 19:39 |
| totalizator | glass? you can't imo | 19:39 |
| totalizator | but it's supacool - no bubbles when applying | 19:39 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:40 |
| totalizator | and you can remove it and apply again | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | i got ~8 protectors with n800 when i bought it | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | one of it i've applied to n900 | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | they are cheap | 19:40 |
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| klopsi-u3 | good friends we've had, good friends we've lost - along the way | 22:18 |
| Oksanaa | Morpher is funny, but its gui currently requires stylus. And I don't see yet any morphing: I have loaded left and right images, what button to press next? | 22:28 |
| klopsi-u3 | hi Oksanaa | 22:30 |
| klopsi-u3 | i don't know morpher, this is supposed to morph one image to another? | 22:30 |
| Oksanaa | hello klopsi-u3 | 22:30 |
| Oksanaa | probably, not sure. It mentions creating an animation, too... | 22:31 |
| klopsi-u3 | right, obviously it would create an animation | 22:31 |
| klopsi-u3 | maybe a gif or a mpeg | 22:31 |
| klopsi-u3 | have you tried MyPaint on N900? | 22:32 |
| Oksanaa | Yes :-) Long time ago... | 22:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | it is amazing what some people can do with it, did you see the pictures in the forum? | 22:32 |
| Oksanaa | Yes :-) Wish more people took part in LookwhatIdrawonmyphone thread... | 22:33 |
| Oksanaa | Current photograph challenge of the month is "Photographer" | 22:34 |
| klopsi-u3 | ah | 22:37 |
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| Oksanaa | spontaneous shutdown of phone... Wish I knew the reason | 22:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | :/ | 22:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | running cssu | 22:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | ? | 22:49 |
| Oksanaa | Yes, CSSU-Testing-Thumb... | 22:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | i heard that was instable Oksanaa , but i don't know anything about it | 23:07 |
| Sicelo | no, it's not | 23:08 |
| Sicelo | Oksanaa: have syslog? might show you what happened just before shutdown | 23:09 |
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