IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2015-10-30

OksanaHardcoded is no-good...00:03
freemangordonSicelo: just check what preinst or posinst does (dpkg -x)00:04
freemangordonand do that by hand00:04
bencohjonwil: muarf.org doesn't host any harmattan mirror00:08
bencoh(I really feel stupid for not doing so)00:08
jonwilits good that we have a mirror of the fremantle nokia repos00:08
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jonwilotherwise it would be impossible to reinstall any of the stock packages if you needed to for some reason00:08
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bencohit's "good enogh", but I really wish I mirrored harmattan and older Maemos as well00:09
bencohSicelo: do you have a copy of omap3-dsp-hd-codecs_0.3.8-7+0m6_armel.deb or do you need it?00:10
Siceloi would like to have it. thanks00:12
Siceloi can see omap3-dsp-hd-codecs_0.3.9-6+0m6_armel.deb00:13
bencohwow, my only copy is on my n900... anyway, looks like there's still a copy around on the internet :)00:13
Sicelobtw, harmattan mirror exists :) http://maemo-repos.com/apt-mirror/all-mirror/n9mirror/00:13
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Sicelobencoh: the 0.3.9 should work on N900?00:15
bencohno idea00:15
bencohmight as well ask freemangordon after his night of sleep :)00:16
Sicelowill use 0.3.8 to be on safe side. i should be sleeping too, haha00:17
bencohoh, btw ... .debs are attached to tmo post00:19
bencoh(?)00:19
Sicelonot hd-codecs... always thought so too00:20
Siceloit's just a script00:20
bencohah, nevermind, right00:20
Sicelopart of my problem with videos was .. i had hd-codecs installed, but something restored original libgstdsp.so to original state00:23
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freemangordonSicelo: how so?07:00
Sicelowhat? :)07:01
freemangordon Sicelo: part of my problem with videos was .. i had hd-codecs installed, but something restored original libgstdsp.so to original state07:02
Siceloredownloaded your libgstdsp.so and md5sum from my system didn't match. i guess at some point later i may have installed/reinstalled something tha reverted libgstdsp07:04
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Sicelo*that07:05
Siceloafter restoring your libgstdsp.so, videos seem to be playing normally again instead of throwing errors such as i posted before07:06
freemangordonmakes sense07:06
KotCzarnydpkg -S /path/to/file07:38
KotCzarnywill show you which package has it07:38
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zGrrmoin :)13:08
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klopsi-u3 moin13:11
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Vajbhey. I have strage thing to ask.14:35
APicYes?14:35
KotCzarny4214:35
APicB-)14:36
Vajbmy friend took part of the competition where you make a video cover of one song. You win by number of views. So is it ok if i share the link here?14:36
Vajbit is completely of topic, but i think it deserves to be shared14:36
Vajbit is youtube video14:36
KotCzarnyremember that there are multiple irc log bots thatwill open urlspasted14:37
KotCzarnydont know if youtube will count those14:37
Vajbthat meaning?14:37
KotCzarnythat meaning i dont know what is your stand point on ethics14:38
Vajbah you mean he gets cheated views because of bot's?14:38
KotCzarnyim not sure, but thats a possibility14:38
Vajbsort of "cheated"14:38
Vajbi c14:39
Vajbbut that's why i asked if it is ok :)14:39
APicI consider such Request as Spam and would not like it here. You say Yourself it is off-Topic, so… please shut up.  ;)14:39
APicThanks for asking!14:39
Vajbwell i meant more by channel rules to be honest14:39
APic(Instead of just pasting an URL)14:40
Vajbi thought it would be more polite :)14:40
KotCzarny~channel-rules14:40
KotCzarnynone i guess14:40
Vajbbecause i hate nicks who just join post link and part14:40
Vajbso if anyone is interested pm me for the link :)14:41
KotCzarnyvajb, proper spam way is joining as many channels as possible then putting url in quit message14:41
KotCzarny(for those that dont know /wall command)14:41
Vajboh that is so sophisticated spam method!14:41
APicIs /WALL allowed for non-IRC-Opers here?14:41
Vajbbut i would miss it because i ignored all joins,parts and quits ;)14:42
KotCzarnyapic: some irc client just msg all joined channels14:42
KotCzarny*clients14:42
APicAh, right. I confused that with /WALLOP14:43
MaxdamantusBought an N9.14:43
KotCzarnymaxd: how much?14:43
MaxdamantusNZ$8914:44
KotCzarnynot bad14:44
Maxdamantusprobably overpriced, but meh.14:44
Maxdamantussince it's apparently not in particularly good condition.14:44
KotCzarnywhat are your plans?14:55
zGrrWhat do you want to do with N9?15:00
zGrrI am asking, because i had N9, didn't like it and switched back to N900.15:01
KotCzarnyi wanted to port oscp to n915:03
bencohwell ... it only lacks a keyboard amd sd slot. apart from that it's a nice piece of hw15:03
KotCzarnybut i bought a fake, luckily seller agreed to take it back15:03
KotCzarnyniceest thing about n9 is 1G of ram15:04
bencohyeah15:04
sixwheeledbeast^~aegis15:05
infobothttp://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Developing_for_Harmattan/Harmattan_security/Security_guide , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing#Criticism, or  http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/1/10/ME_382_LockedUpTechnology2.gif15:05
zGrrFirefox can't find the server at www.developer.nokia.com.15:25
zGrr:)15:25
KotCzarnytry other links, should be enough15:26
KotCzarnytl;dr version: it's bad15:26
zGrrAegis was evil.15:37
zGrrIs jolla using it too?15:38
Siceloi don't think16:04
kerioaegis would've been cool if it was user-configurable16:05
Sicelowhat would it be useful for?16:06
keriomalware prevention16:08
Sicelodoesn't seem to be helping android or ios16:13
KotCzarny:)16:13
KotCzarnybest malware protection is user education16:13
kerioyes, because the user doesn't own the keys16:13
Sicelono. users just choose to allow non-store applications and defeat the system ... it'd be the same with user-configurable aegis imo16:14
Siceloagreed that N9 hardware is amazing overall16:17
zGrrno user-replaceable battery, no physical kbd.16:40
KotCzarnyno user, but replaceable16:42
KotCzarnyand you can buy one yourself16:42
KotCzarnyonly one has to disassemble device a bit16:42
Sicelonot too hard too16:43
zGrrI always carry with me spare battery (or two) for my n900. Sometimes it is very useful.16:45
KotCzarnyyou can just grab a powerbank16:45
zGrrI have a powerbank to. it is not the same.16:46
KotCzarnyno?16:46
zGrrgood way to damage your usb socket beyond repair if you're not careful enough and it is very easy to be not careful enough.16:47
KotCzarnyn9 has usb port issues too?16:47
KotCzarnythough it was n900's design fail16:47
KotCzarny*thought16:47
zGrryou're right16:48
zGrrmany handsets have that design fail, though not the N916:48
KotCzarnynow imagine powerbank with inductive charging16:49
Siceloa few did have issues, but likely carelessnes16:49
zGrris there anything wrong with the concept of user-replaceable battery?16:49
Sicelono :)16:50
zGrr:)16:50
KotCzarnya bit of internal space?16:50
zGrrnot much16:50
zGrri can think of a better design for a replaceable battery.16:51
KotCzarnyin mobile device even 0.5mm can make a difference16:51
KotCzarnyin the past there were cellphones where battery doubled as a back cover16:51
KotCzarny:)16:51
KotCzarnyericsson mostly16:52
zGrrit can be slide in through the slot at the bottom of the handset. bit like a diskette or SD card.16:52
zGrryou don't necessarily need back cover.16:52
Siceloslide the battery in the same way you slide sim cards in nowadays16:52
zGrryup16:52
Siceloah, beat me to it16:52
KotCzarnyzgrr: imagine this, enlarged battery without need for different cover16:54
KotCzarny:)16:54
KotCzarnyor slimming down the phone if you prefer slimminess16:54
KotCzarnyand as far away as in ericsson a1028s times, you could've run phone on 4 AAA's16:57
KotCzarny:)16:57
KotCzarnyni-mh16:57
KotCzarny;)16:57
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zGrrI know. Like Mugen power.17:00
zGrrI never actually permanently needed that much capacity. I am perfectly fine with the spare battery plus power bank.17:01
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sixwheeledbeast^any battery can be replaced, that doesn't make it a replaceable battery tho.21:06
KotCzarnyapple?21:06
KotCzarny:)21:06
KotCzarnywhen battery is glued so removal means risk of destroyed device, its not replaceable21:06
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sixwheeledbeast^pentalobe screwdriver and a guitar pick, it's still can be replaced.21:14
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OksanaaOne of the DT-33 battery chargers I have (made by Nokia) is broken. Whatever the battery, it starts blinking rapidly, and does not stop when I take the battery out...22:46
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OksanaaI do not see anything particularly broken here: http://i.imgur.com/7Y4sbs9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kN2kUIV.jpg23:08
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KotCzarnyapart from bottom looking like it overheated, sure23:16
OksanaaThese liquid-y things are sign of overheating? What can be done to cure it of whatever the problem is?23:19
KotCzarnycheck if connections are working there?23:20
MaxdamantusI think the liquidy things would be flux.23:20
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OksanaaYes, likely flux... Will check when I can23:32
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