| jonwil | 2.0.22 of what? | 00:02 |
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| KotCzarny | probably yappari (whatsapp client) | 00:03 |
| jon_y | yappari still mysteriously crashes for me at times | 00:25 |
| jon_y | probably because its written in python | 00:25 |
| jon_y | works most of the time though | 00:25 |
| bencoh | python? | 00:26 |
| bencoh | did you mean "c++" ? :] | 00:27 |
| bencoh | which part is in python? | 00:27 |
| jon_y | isn't it using py-gtk? | 00:27 |
| bencoh | no, it's qt | 00:27 |
| jon_y | or was it py-qt | 00:28 |
| bencoh | pure c++/qt, it doesn't show python dep | 00:30 |
| bencoh | any* | 00:30 |
| Sicelo | :) | 00:30 |
| jon_y | hmm, maybe something else is pulling the python stuff | 00:31 |
| bencoh | most probably | 00:32 |
| jon_y | sending an image caused my phone to reboot once :( | 00:32 |
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| Vajb | yappari crashes from time to time for me too. | 05:33 |
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| Sicelo | by the way, regarding battery, what causes it to show "Full" too soon? Say you're charging, and then it goes 91% --> 100% | 11:15 |
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| KotCzarny | bad capacity data + charging curve? | 11:17 |
| KotCzarny | ie. chip thinks it should charge for x, then voltage gets to 4.2 sooner? | 11:17 |
| KotCzarny | its just a guess tho | 11:18 |
| Sicelo | makes sense. i know my battery is old though | 11:19 |
| KotCzarny | ci==0 ? | 11:20 |
| Sicelo | yes | 11:20 |
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| Maxdamantus | Not using multiple batteries? | 11:59 |
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| Maxdamantus | How do you tell that ci==0 btw? | 12:01 |
| Maxdamantus | Presumably if something like dr's i2c script works, you're not using the kernel module that interfaces with that device. | 12:02 |
| Sicelo | bq27200 registers :) | 12:02 |
| Sicelo | no multiple batteries as well | 12:02 |
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| Maxdamantus | Are you reading the registers using the `i2c` command? | 12:03 |
| Maxdamantus | if so, are you sure the 91% figure is also coming from bq? | 12:04 |
| Maxdamantus | when I'm using bme replacement, it's using the kernel module, so the registers can't be read using the userspace i2c interface. | 12:05 |
| zGrr | moin :) | 12:05 |
| Sicelo | /sys/class/devices/power_supply/bq27200-0/registers | 12:06 |
| Sicelo | the 91% was hypothetical .. the point is that there's a 'jump' ..maybe 87->100 or something like that. | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | similar story when it goes from 30% to 0 etc | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | try invalidating CI and recalibration | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | but its almost sure that your battery is old | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | and thats the main cause | 12:12 |
| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1478682&postcount=1 <<-- updated "bq27200" script :) it's a little slow, but works | 12:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Heh, I made one that was faster. | 12:13 |
| Sicelo | share :) | 12:13 |
| Maxdamantus | then I rewrote it all in C, so it now returns immediately. | 12:13 |
| Sicelo | i simply replaced the i2get with registers | 12:14 |
| Sicelo | bnf did "t have enough info for me need | 12:14 |
| Maxdamantus | https://gist.github.com/Maxdamantus/ada1412f3ef6ae1c440e | 12:15 |
| Sicelo | cool. will look | 12:15 |
| Maxdamantus | Can also show the bash version soon, but it's still a hundred or so times slower than that C program (compiled with gcc or clang) | 12:15 |
| Sicelo | you use Doc's calculations or ShadowJK's? there are a few differences between them | 12:18 |
| Maxdamantus | Doc's. | 12:19 |
| Sicelo | ok. | 12:19 |
| Maxdamantus | the computations were mostly converted using a bunch of sed commands. | 12:20 |
| Maxdamantus | (from Doc's bash script) | 12:20 |
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| Maxdamantus | it should also produce pretty much the same output. | 12:21 |
| Sicelo | i also like the loopmode in Shadow's script | 12:22 |
| Maxdamantus | is it different to the loop mode in doc's script? | 12:23 |
| Sicelo | i never knew that had loopmode :/ | 12:23 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm, maybe it's not doc's. | 12:23 |
| Sicelo | :) yes, means you're using Shadow's | 12:24 |
| Maxdamantus | it's the one called bq27200.sh | 12:24 |
| Maxdamantus | Okay, misattributed then. | 12:24 |
| Maxdamantus | afk | 12:24 |
| Sicelo | btw, i see you're #including <time.h> .. what are you using it for? | 12:25 |
| KotCzarny | some function maybe | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | comment out and compile | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | you will see | 12:29 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:29 |
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| Sicelo | heh. moving on another hiccup :/ | 12:30 |
| Sicelo | http://paste.debian.net/318514/ N900 just went unresponsive, and eventually restarted | 12:30 |
| KotCzarny | some chip went unresponsive | 12:31 |
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| Sicelo | freemangordon_: by the way how would i check when last kernel crashed on N900? | 12:34 |
| freemangordon_ | /dev/mtd2 | 12:35 |
| Sicelo | thanks | 12:37 |
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| Sicelo | KotCzarny: i just hope my N900 isn't about to break down with hardware failure. | 12:40 |
| kerio | rip | 12:41 |
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| Maxdamantus | 23:25:05 < Sicelo> btw, i see you're #including <time.h> .. what are you using it for? | 12:46 |
| Maxdamantus | It's used in the loop mode. | 12:46 |
| Maxdamantus | 23:46 4011 91 91 -316 1451 1451 1451 65535 275 30 1 0 | 12:46 |
| Sicelo | i never even realized that time was being shown even in original bq27200 :) | 12:47 |
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| Maxdamantus | also, the hack to the bash version of bq27200: | 12:51 |
| Maxdamantus | eval "$(sed 's/^/registers[$((/; s/=/))]=/' </sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/registers)"; ./i2cget (){ echo "${registers[$(($4))]}"; } | 12:51 |
| Maxdamantus | You just put that somewhere sensible and remove the ./i2c required thing. | 12:51 |
| Maxdamantus | It's probably one of the more efficient ways of doing it (in bash) without rewriting everything. | 12:52 |
| Maxdamantus | Your one took 0m3.141s for me .. /me likes that time. | 12:57 |
| Maxdamantus | but the eval/sed way takes 0m0.569s | 12:57 |
| Maxdamantus | and the C/gcc way takes 0m0.121s | 12:57 |
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| Maxdamantus | (the last one is the only one that's purely system bound) | 13:01 |
| Sicelo | cool. wit try sed way. had actually inited ideas/criticism on the post, because my hack was 'quick.' desperately needed to calibrate & couldn't figure out things. :) | 13:03 |
| Sicelo | thanks Maxdamantus | 13:03 |
| Maxdamantus | Practically, you should probably just skip that and use the C version. | 13:04 |
| Maxdamantus | apt-get install gcc; gcc bq27200.c -o bq27200 | 13:04 |
| Maxdamantus | ./bq27200 | 13:04 |
| Sicelo | do i even have that on my N900.. /me checks | 13:05 |
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| Maxdamantus | I think the only difference is I added VDQ to the loop mode output. | 13:05 |
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| Maxdamantus | and it doesn't print the dots, because reading is instantaneous anyway. | 13:06 |
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| Maxdamantus | apparently I also don't have spaces before the percent signs ("91%" instead of "91 %"), and remove a column of spaces in the indented section. | 13:09 |
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| Sicelo | i'll add "wall charger" as well. | 13:09 |
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| KotCzarny | um, you should use %% if your printf % | 13:54 |
| Maxdamantus | It does use %% in printf. | 14:01 |
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| buZz | so eh | 14:17 |
| buZz | how unsupported is a N770 for CSSU? | 14:18 |
| buZz | someone is sending me a 'virgin' one, as he saw my love for maemo expressed | 14:18 |
| Sicelo | if you think of fremantle cssu, of course not :) | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | um | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | buzz, support for new os releases for 770 | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | its so.. 2007? | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | ok, last one was in 2008 | 14:22 |
| buZz | Sicelo: hehe no | 14:22 |
| buZz | ah dno, i'm getting it for free anyway | 14:22 |
| buZz | will be enjoyable :) | 14:22 |
| KotCzarny | i was looking for 770 to port oscp | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 14:23 |
| buZz | wanna rent it? ;) | 14:23 |
| buZz | hehe | 14:23 |
| buZz | .1 btc a day! | 14:23 |
| buZz | hahahaha | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | pity its more expensive than n900 around here | 14:23 |
| buZz | yeah same here | 14:23 |
| buZz | n800 and n810 more expensive aswell | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | buzz: if i ever earn anything for oscp, sure | 14:23 |
| buZz | ;) | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | for now its not getting any revenue, you know | 14:24 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 14:24 |
| KotCzarny | party because its done for free | 14:24 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 14:24 |
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| tg | hey | 20:54 |
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| tg | is there any turn-by-turn navigation sw for n900 that actually works? | 20:58 |
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| tg | there's navit but only see builds for n800 on their site.. and have no idea how stable/usable it is these days | 20:59 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | tg: modrana? | 21:28 |
| tg | yeah just found that one, looking at it now | 21:30 |
| tg | and also mapperro is supposed to have routing | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | Sygic MM works as well | 21:31 |
| tg | i used to have have that and it worked | 21:31 |
| tg | but no longer available.. | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | sure it is | 21:31 |
| tg | do you know of a working mirror? | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | there is torrent around the inet | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | tg: or I can give you a link to my backup | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | actually I bought that SW :) | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | but after Sygic stopped support, I have to use pirated copy, because of newer maps | 21:32 |
| tg | how does the pirated copy support newer maps? | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | there is some config file, which is tweaked to use TA (2011) instead of Navtek(2009 iirc) maps | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | at least I am able to use the latest TA card for MM 10 for Android | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | s/card/map | 21:35 |
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| tg | okay, will have a look at that too | 21:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I am afraid to reflash my device with SMM10 on, in case I loose something I paid for :( | 21:46 |
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| bencoh | cant you just backup/dump everything? | 21:46 |
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| timclassic | I have an N900 with PR1.2, and I'd like to upgrade it to PR1.3 as a step towards CSSU. | 21:47 |
| timclassic | Where should I start, now that Nokia's repositories are offline? | 21:47 |
| Wizzup | tg: marble | 21:48 |
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| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 21:52 |
| infobot | somebody said maemo-repos was http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 21:52 |
| infobot | maemo-flashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | use that script | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | it downloads firmware too | 21:52 |
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| timclassic | KotCzarny: Ah, nice, thanks! | 21:53 |
| timclassic | KotCzarny: Somewhat-related question--I currently have a set of maps for Ovi Maps that I would like to preserve | 21:53 |
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| timclassic | Do you happen to know where they are, or where I might find such info? | 21:53 |
| timclassic | (It may be that I have not searched enough yet) | 21:54 |
| KotCzarny | ~ovimaps | 21:54 |
| KotCzarny | just google: n900 ovi maps | 21:54 |
| KotCzarny | there should be a script do download them | 21:55 |
| timclassic | I've found the script. I was simply hoping to also preserve what is already on the device. | 21:55 |
| timclassic | I'll find them, I just thought you might know the path off the top of your head ;) | 21:55 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 21:57 |
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| timclassic | Thanks for the links, this really helps. | 21:58 |
| bencoh | I think you should be able to update from 1.2 to 1.3 without reflashing | 21:58 |
| bencoh | (that's what "SSU" was for after all) | 21:58 |
| timclassic | bencoh: I was hoping to do so | 21:58 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | backupmenu is a possibly. I would be concerned if I couldn't get it working again | 22:20 |
| bencoh | tarball, backupmenu, dd | 22:20 |
| bencoh | you should be able to recover :) | 22:21 |
| Sicelo | timclassic: maps are in cities directory in your MyDocs | 22:28 |
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| Sicelo | and, if you don't have much luck with other navigation software, but for some reason like Ovi Maps, there's a tweak to add voice-nav. check TMO, and use the OMVoiceServer method. only two real flaws of Ovi maps are therefore (1) no automatic re-routing if you go off-course. manual re-routing itself isn't too reliable it seems. (2) no offline search, unfortunately, although routing is offline | 22:32 |
| bencoh | is there any automatic re-routing solution? | 22:34 |
| bencoh | (marble doesn't really support it iirc) | 22:34 |
| Sicelo | no idea. for Ovi maps i don't remember seeing such tweak | 22:34 |
| KotCzarny | anyone up to create wiki page comparing n900 map options and features? | 22:36 |
| KotCzarny | it seems to be recurring question | 22:36 |
| Sicelo | i think there already is | 22:36 |
| KotCzarny | up to date? | 22:36 |
| bencoh | oh ... https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1240539&postcount=1089 | 22:37 |
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| Sicelo | https://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools | 22:37 |
| KotCzarny | thx | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | how current/correct information on this page is? | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | infobot: #maemo maps is https://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools | 22:38 |
| infobot | okay, KotCzarny | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | ~maps | 22:38 |
| infobot | well, maps is https://wiki.maemo.org/Navigation_Tools | 22:38 |
| Sicelo | likely old. then again most applications haven't changed, except modrana of course :) | 22:40 |
| KotCzarny | can you update most glaring oldnesseses? | 22:41 |
| timclassic | Sicelo: Thanks! | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | no. i couldn't use any of the 'updated' applications :) stuck with nokia maps eventually. | 22:42 |
| timclassic | I'm not committed to Ovi Maps, but I at least wanted to preserve the map data. | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | so can't update wiki, sorry | 22:42 |
| Sicelo | timclassic: np :) | 22:43 |
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| KotCzarny | would be nice to have summary table at the top | 22:45 |
| Sicelo | actually that's what i thought to. this prose sucks | 22:45 |
| KotCzarny | with fields like maps date etc | 22:45 |
| KotCzarny | ive never used maps on n900 tho | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | haha, ok | 22:48 |
| bencoh | hmm yeah a summary table would be nice | 22:53 |
| bencoh | but we'd to make sure the info is up to date first :) | 22:53 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, we could start with data based on that article | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | then fix one by one | 22:55 |
| bencoh | I'd rather do it the other way around, but ... | 22:58 |
| Sicelo | but i'm guessing at this time modrana is simply the 'best' .. is it not? | 23:03 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: I still prefere marble | 23:15 |
| bencoh | partly because of python/qml vs pure c++/qt (no qml) | 23:16 |
| Sicelo | :) | 23:16 |
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