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| HtheB | Guys, We have a patient here who needs to get revived! :P | 15:42 |
| HtheB | somehow, I can't flash it anymore | 15:42 |
| HtheB | it stays on Nokia N900 (Nokia Suite) :( | 15:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | errr | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia suite sounds like windows PC | 15:45 |
| HtheB | ok, somehow, I managed to get the phone into "update mode" | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever that means | 15:46 |
| HtheB | DocScrutinizer05: when you hold the U button while booting the phone, it will go into update mode | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless battery too low | 15:46 |
| HtheB | it's like 30-40% | 15:47 |
| HtheB | shouldn't be too low | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NOLO will decide on that ;-) | 15:47 |
| HtheB | the problem is | 15:47 |
| HtheB | (at least thats what I figured it out right now) | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when voltage is too low, NOLO will try to charge battery and for that directly boots to linux | 15:47 |
| HtheB | it stays on Update mode, untill i start the flashing | 15:48 |
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| HtheB | when I try to start flashing, it will kick me out of the update mode | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you try to flash VANILLA then that's the expected behavior | 15:48 |
| HtheB | aha | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | VANILLA is handled by a update daemon in linux | 15:49 |
| HtheB | got it | 15:49 |
| HtheB | thanks | 15:49 |
| HtheB | works | 15:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 15:49 |
| HtheB | i got fooled by the "flash vanilla first" :P | 15:49 |
| HtheB | Patient saved! \o/ | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, actually it can't reach NOLO for COMBINED flashing after VANILLA flashing. So you need to reboot after VANILLA to enter "update mode" again, for COMBINED | 15:50 |
| HtheB | yeah | 15:50 |
| HtheB | CMT flashing failed < why does this happen? | 15:52 |
| HtheB | Not that it's a big deal, since its working though | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's nasty | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CMT flashing failing often is a sign of CMT already going south | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but sometimes it might be caused by very simple reason: low battery voltage | 15:53 |
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| xes | HtheB: i have experience of that CMT flashing failed error... Try with another (maybe older) pc with standard usb 2.0 port and a 32 bit os | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | aah yes, that may help too | 17:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for very weird reasons it seems the cmt data is particularly prone to data corruption | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi xes! :) how's life? | 17:23 |
| xes | i think flasher has some problem with recent hardware and usb 3.0 ports (and/or 64 bit linux) | 17:24 |
| xes | hi DocScrutinizer05! life? ..hard, too firewalls, too patches, too many bad guys with a lot of free time... :) | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 17:26 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: and you? Everything well at cccamp ? | 17:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still in desaster management mode and recovering | 17:27 |
| xes | recovering what? health, hardware or wet shoes? :) | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cccamp was a great success I think. Still waiting for our own video footage of the real talks. The lightning talks are already online, our private truncated versions at http://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | recovering health, it was pretty exhausting for me to organize all that, and there's still stuff pending to get organized (return rented stuff) | 17:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hardware survived surprisingly well | 17:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wet shoes, ohmy. I guess the washing machine will be able to tell we were at dusty cccamp | 17:30 |
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| xes | :) | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still coughing little bricks | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no surprise when staying 10 days on a brick factory | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it been sort of old wild west movies. You don't see the trail/army/whatever, you only see the *dust* they create which forms 100m high endless clouds | 17:33 |
| xes | videos seem interesting.. have you also some interesting photo camp life/events? | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | few | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | very few | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I've actually been too busy to take snapshots | 17:34 |
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| xes | hey ..and the rad1o sdr toy? :) | 17:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | pre-start 20% of luggage: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20150805_002.jpg. Camper on day-minus3 with no crown on place http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20150810_001.jpg + 002 / Village: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20150810_004.jpg to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20150811_003.jpg | 17:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the rad1o toy looks nice. I had not a minute time to play with it yet, though | 17:40 |
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| * sixwheeledbeast has replaced his seized CPU fan for a 120mm push/pull setup and is now running at a cool 13C :) | 18:47 | |
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| bencoh | 13C ? | 19:03 |
| bencoh | wow | 19:03 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | bencoh: I was surprised too. It is a huge heatsink tho, with two 120mm fans either side. | 19:10 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | That is idle, I have yet to see the temp go above 30 even under load. Room temp is currently 23. I think I should live in my case on hot days :) | 19:14 |
| HtheB | xes: i see | 19:14 |
| HtheB | What exactly is CMT anyway? | 19:14 |
| HtheB | since I can boot up the phone... | 19:14 |
| HtheB | even if it fails to | 19:14 |
| Win7Mac | sixwheeledbeast, your room-Temp 30°C? - The sensor readout must be wrong... a fan physically cannot cool down below room-temp... | 19:15 |
| Win7Mac | oh, 23°C, but still... | 19:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | room temp is 23C, MB temp is 34C, CPU temp is 13-16C idle. | 19:16 |
| Win7Mac | impossible... | 19:16 |
| Win7Mac | the fan blows 23°C air to the cooler... | 19:17 |
| bencoh | actually it is possible | 19:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have no reason to question it. | 19:17 |
| bencoh | the air cools down when it's accelerated | 19:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I was showing 61-70C when I diagnosed my CPU fan had seized. | 19:18 |
| bencoh | Win7Mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli's_principle | 19:19 |
| Win7Mac | sixwheeledbeast, check another tool to read out temps | 19:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also I think this is the benefit of the push/pull creating negative pressure in the heatsink. Before with only push I used to get about 23-26 idle, but I have also increased the amount and quality of the case fans too. | 19:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I will check with BIOS in a few minutes I have to shutdown to reinstall a RAM chip. | 19:22 |
| Win7Mac | bencoh, you'd need turbines for that I guess... | 19:24 |
| Win7Mac | compressed air... | 19:25 |
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| ecc3g | peltier? phase change? | 19:44 |
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| Win7Mac | Thermotunneling? ;) | 19:47 |
| ecc3g | laser refrigeration? | 19:48 |
| HtheB | does anyone know how to turn off the phone functionality when booting up the phone? | 19:50 |
| HtheB | it takes like a minute untill the n900 is booted up :( (phone function doesn't work anymore) | 19:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ok so BIOS temps are similar values to sensors applet | 19:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have tweaked it to "Auto Mode" now, was set to "Full On" | 19:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | HtheB: Never tried would look into upstart or rcs-late? There was also something in devel that would run scripts at startup. | 20:01 |
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| Sicelo | does FCamera take 640x480 snaps? any way to get better resolution? | 20:05 |
| bencoh | Win7Mac: for bernoulli's effect to occure ? no | 20:10 |
| bencoh | it's just on a different scale | 20:10 |
| bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: what do you mean by "snaps" ? the low-res version encoded in the DNG file ? | 20:10 |
| bencoh | or the preview image in viewfinder ? | 20:10 |
| Sicelo | i mean the DNG that gets saved. is this by design? | 20:11 |
| bencoh | DNG contains a low-res "preview" and a full-res raw image | 20:11 |
| bencoh | the preview is, well ... just a preview :) | 20:12 |
| Sicelo | i'm opening it in Gimp .. how do i see the full-res? the DNG file is 11MB in size | 20:12 |
| bencoh | use dcraw, ufraw, or any other RAW/DNG viewer/"converter" | 20:13 |
| bencoh | there is a gimp/ufraw plugin so you can export ufraw result to gimp | 20:13 |
| Sicelo | ah, thanks. i saw mention of dcraw on tmo. whew! i was shocked tbh | 20:13 |
| bencoh | oh and ... welcome to the RAW editing world :-) | 20:13 |
| Sicelo | N900 to thank for that, haha. BlessN900 can coexist with FCam? i have FCam on my 2nd N900, and BlessN900 on the main one | 20:16 |
| bencoh | havent tried | 20:16 |
| bencoh | depends on whether bless900 tries to install its own drivers as well | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | I think blessn900 can just use fcam drivers | 20:17 |
| Sicelo | ok. will test on the 2nd one before i do same on main one | 20:19 |
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| Sicelo | thanks bencoh .. looks good with ufraw. now someone needs to port one of these RAW tools to the N900 .. or they need obscure libs? | 20:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I can also say that the air leaving the rear of the case is cooler than room temp. | 20:29 |
| Win7Mac | using a thermometer or your hand? | 20:32 |
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| Win7Mac | CPU Sensors don't show absolute temps but the difference to a critical max. where a throttle kicks in: Junction Temperature Max (TjMax). | 21:27 |
| Win7Mac | It *must* be a readout error since it's impossible that the cooling object (heatsink) gets colder than the cooling medium (air) with just fans. peltier or compressor is a different story | 21:28 |
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| Win7Mac | sixwheeledbeast, which CPU? | 21:44 |
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