IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2015-07-09

Vajbi used to get those usb host problems with charger, but solved it by connecting charger first to phone and then to mains socket00:00
DocScrutinizer05(pmconfig, preinit) why exactly did this change at all? there's a clear reason why this particular  "" awk '/sleep_ind/{ if ($2 == 1) { VALUE="active"; } else { VALUE="inactive"; } print VALUE > "/sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/sleep_ind/state"  }' < /etc/pmconfig "" got done in this particular position in code. cleaning up code is not a good reason for changing behavior00:02
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DocScrutinizer05the semantic was: "when device in R&D mode, either set debug LEDs to what's in pmconfig sleep_ind key, or - if such key or even whole pmconfig file is missing - default to LEDs enabled00:04
DocScrutinizer05I don't see why this semantic needs to change00:05
DocScrutinizer05no change in semantic, no need to update pmconfig ;-)00:09
DocScrutinizer05no need to "fix" code that's not broken00:09
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* Maxdamantus wonders if he can back up and restore his root filesystem before the battery runs out.10:14
Maxdamantusalternatively .. how do you get it to charge in 3.14?10:15
* Maxdamantus thinks he's done it before, but can't remember.10:15
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MaxdamantusDamn it. Always forget about sparse files when doing this sort of thin.10:48
Maxdamantus-rw-r--r--    1 1000     1000        1.0T Apr  9  2014 /mnt/debian-armel-root/home/max/codedrive10:48
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bencohMaxdamantus: maybe the charge script works10:57
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antranigvthe testing version of CloudGPS is not working, how can I install the stable version? or should I use  the .deb file for that?11:31
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KotCzarnypin it or use deb11:33
antranigvpin?11:33
KotCzarny~apt11:33
infobotmethinks apt is a stuild bot, said by Cotulla11:33
L29Ahhttp://maemo.org/packages/view/hildon-desktop/ wtf no sources11:40
KotCzarnyhehe11:49
L29Ahstage.maemo.org repos are dead11:53
L29Ahno hildon for me?11:53
KotCzarnytry the hildon from hildon org?11:56
antranigvL29Ah: funtoo + hildon for tablets? (:11:59
L29Ahnvm found it11:59
L29Ahgentoo + hildon for n90012:00
antranigvL29Ah: nice (:12:01
L29Ahit feels like it never ends...12:02
L29Ahand my n900 will die sooner than i bring up an usable system for it12:02
KotCzarnyfremantle is pretty usable12:07
antranigvKotCzarny: will FAM be able to choose what package to install? using the blacklist?12:07
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KotCzarnyi stopped using fam12:09
KotCzarnyand use apt directly for a long time12:09
antranigvKotCzarny: agree, better idea. but sometimes I think that HAM, FAM, and apt are doing different stuff...12:11
KotCzarnythey are mostly using apt12:12
KotCzarnymostly.12:13
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MaxdamantusHm. On my current service provider, I can dial `*100#` and get some weird prompt-based UI to do things like look at my balance .. what is that protocol called?15:59
MaxdamantusIs it some sort of encoding over SMS?16:00
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kerioservice codes16:04
MaxdamantusWhat indicates that it's a service code?16:04
keriohttps://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data16:04
MaxdamantusThe * and the #?16:04
keriowhoops16:04
keriohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data16:04
MaxdamantusIt looks like the UI that pops up can be done whenever the provider wants.16:05
Maxdamantusso presumably dialing *100# just sends some message, and the provider just happens to send some independent (as in, not formally a response) message to ask me more stuff.16:06
MaxdamantusYeah, okay.16:06
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DocScrutinizer05Maxdamantus: ((what is that protocol called?)) USSD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data16:19
DocScrutinizer05duh, kerio beat me16:19
DocScrutinizer05the "UI" is just a display showing response to USSD command16:20
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DocScrutinizer05and yes, the response is not realy linked to the command you sent, afaik16:21
DocScrutinizer05I didn't bother yet to find out if USSD are a different message/telegram type over the air, but on modem interface level you have both dedicated AT commands to send USSD as well as generic ATD (dial) command that does exactly same when you send command ATD*100#;<enter>16:24
jon_yhi guys, is cssu thumb still maintained?16:25
DocScrutinizer05I'd think yes16:25
jon_yhmm ok16:25
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bencohit might be lagging behind -testing for some packages iirc16:30
kerionice, support for OpenSSL versions 1.0.0 and 0.9.8 will cease on 31st December 201516:32
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bencoh:(16:50
Wizzupkerio: No surprise16:51
keriobencoh: it's good16:51
keriowe have an excuse to switch over16:51
bencohriiight.16:51
kerioat least for the stuff that can be recompiled16:51
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Wizzupkerio: agreed!17:00
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SAiFhey .  wats up21:01
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RzRhttp://abbra.livejournal.com/197954.html22:16
bencoh:)22:19
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