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| * Maxdamantus wonders if having an N900 connected with USB while off works as a backup to the battery that keeps the RTC/bq272xx things alive. | 09:31 | |
| * Maxdamantus has to change his SIM card soon. | 09:32 | |
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| KotCzarny | most likely not | 09:36 |
| KotCzarny | but if you switch battery quick you have a chance | 09:36 |
| KotCzarny | though if you change battery it should rre-learn anyway | 09:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Probably can't do it that quick. | 09:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Currently have a few slices of paper in too. | 09:38 |
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| Maxdamantus | I sometimes shut it down by lifting the battery up for a split second, which doesn't reset the battery information. | 09:39 |
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| bencoh | Maxdamantus: I changed my SIM card a week ago, and still have CI=0 | 09:48 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah, but is your backup battery dead? | 09:49 |
| bencoh | there is a capacitor to keep the bq27 memory alive | 09:49 |
| bencoh | probably, since I had to reset the time clock | 09:49 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. I think I do remember losing the time a while ago but not having to redo the bq information. | 09:50 |
| Maxdamantus | but I didn't take it fully out, maybe it's okay. | 09:51 |
| bencoh | Maxdamantus: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2015-02-05.log.html#t2015-02-05T13:11:07 | 09:55 |
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| Maxdamantus | Okay. | 09:57 |
| bencoh | I did a worst-case computation to know how long it would last without battery back then (based on I_max of RBI, C, and VPOR) but I kinda forgot the result | 09:59 |
| bencoh | iirc we have at least a min or something in that magnitude order | 09:59 |
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. Wonder if my work is going to give me the right factor SIM card .. dunno how common 1FFs are today. | 11:45 |
| Maxdamantus | They asked for my phone number and ICCID, don't think the form factor. | 11:46 |
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| Maxdamantus | Oh, maybe microSIMs embedded in a full SIM bracket thing are common. | 11:47 |
| Maxdamantus | eh, not full/micro .. confusing names .. mini/nano, maybe. | 11:49 |
| Maxdamantus | or mini/micro | 11:49 |
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| KotCzarny | yeah, usually you get normal sim bracketed to smaller factors | 12:00 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 12:12 |
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| chem|st | talk is getting INDEX reset due to malfunctioning searches (may take a couple of hours and talk may be very unresponsive) | 15:16 |
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| kaizerslawten | hi guys | 16:13 |
| kaizerslawten | someone live? | 16:14 |
| kaizerslawten | Need a little help, my Nokia N900 lost IMEI number. | 16:23 |
| kaizerslawten | Think that ANATEL exclude remotely my IMEI, someone have a case similar? | 16:24 |
| kaizerslawten | My device is now a Tablet, not have 3G broadband :-( | 16:25 |
| Wizzup | What do you mean 'lost' | 16:26 |
| kaizerslawten | I typing code "#*06#", response is "IMEI: " | 16:27 |
| kaizerslawten | I'm brazillian my english is poor , sorry my bad english :( | 16:29 |
| Wizzup | Weird. Wait a bit for other people to respond | 16:33 |
| Wizzup | They may know | 16:33 |
| auenf | *#06# | 16:33 |
| Wizzup | on IRC it can take a few hours for people to respond | 16:33 |
| auenf | does *#0000# work? | 16:34 |
| kaizerslawten | Sorry I'm newbie in IRC | 16:34 |
| auenf | downgraded software at any time? | 16:36 |
| kaizerslawten | typing code *#0000# works, respond with version of firmware "V20.2010.36-2.002" RX-51, NOKIA N900 | 16:37 |
| auenf | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63730 | 16:38 |
| auenf | might be help | 16:38 |
| auenf | but i'm not sure exactly what you need to do | 16:40 |
| kerio | i'm going to guess that your modem is busted | 16:40 |
| kaizerslawten | I donwgraded FW for testing and brick device :-( | 16:41 |
| kerio | can't brick a n900 | 16:41 |
| kerio | if the modem is busted, the modem is busted | 16:42 |
| kerio | that's a hardware problem | 16:42 |
| kerio | a fairly common one, iirc | 16:42 |
| auenf | err, one of the threads said imei gone missing is something that happens when downgrading | 16:42 |
| kerio | neat, then just re-upgrade | 16:43 |
| auenf | that'd be the first thing to try | 16:43 |
| auenf | full flash of whatever you had before | 16:43 |
| kaizerslawten | Repository of Images FW, someone have a mirror? | 16:44 |
| kerio | ~pr131 | 16:45 |
| kerio | hm, infobot's gone | 16:45 |
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| kaizerslawten | Need a Link for download a firmware, | 17:03 |
| kaizerslawten | I try change number IMEI with ifconfig and don't works :-( | 17:07 |
| kaizerslawten | Someone have a mirror of Firmwares Repository of Nokia N900? | 17:09 |
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| Humpelst1lzchen | kaizerslawten: check the topic | 17:22 |
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| Humpelst1lzchen | kaizerslawten: did I tell you to query me? | 17:33 |
| kaizerslawten | Humpelst1lzchen don't understand, you for check a topic. | 17:36 |
| kaizerslawten | sorry my english is very poor | 17:37 |
| kaizerslawten | Humpelst1lzchen don't understand, you say for me check a topic. | 17:37 |
| KotCzarny | uh oh | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | dreaded 'imei gone' | 17:41 |
| ZetaR | kaizerslawten: He means the IRC room's topic. When you say the words that start with "~", there is supposed to be a robot that is in the room that says a reply, but it is gone right now (for some reason). | 17:42 |
| ZetaR | I sent him a private message with info on a place to get the firmware. | 17:42 |
| kaizerslawten | Now I understand :D | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: +#06# *always* succeeds, no matter if SIM or no SIM. Sio remove SIM, try again. If fail, try: | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 17:47 |
| KotCzarny | doc: it succeed3ed, just showed empty imei | 17:48 |
| KotCzarny | which is the case with downgrading or bad modem | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's ame a s no IMEI | 17:48 |
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| KotCzarny | *#06# clearly shows 'imei: ' | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so? | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | so thats what everyone calls it | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on my phone it clearly shows "IMEI: <myIMEI#>", despite no SIM | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, but with bad flash/modem it will show empty imei | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | which is his casde | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | *case | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's why I suggested ~flashing | 17:50 |
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| KotCzarny | and as i remember from tmo, reflash doesnt help | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flashing | 17:50 |
| auenf | you dont need a sim to make certain calls, but if the modem doesnt have an imei you probably cant call 112 :P | 17:50 |
| infobot | well, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: when reflash doesn't help, you're suffering the broken modem solder points issue and have a defect device | 17:51 |
| kaizerslawten | infobot: Go test this | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: it's a bot | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell kaizerslawten about flashing | 17:52 |
| kaizerslawten | I'm Newbie in IRC | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I tell you :-) | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you got a linux PC? | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if yes, I recommend my http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | very convenient | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | remove any SIM during flashing! | 17:56 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, since when its a requirement? | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we seen broken SIM throwing sticks at modem so it didn't come up | 17:57 |
| kaizerslawten | DocScrutinizer05: Have a PC Linux | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: then do what infobot suggested :-) | 17:58 |
| kaizerslawten | Debian Linux | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's self explanatory | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 17:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in a shell of course :-) | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least the last part. For first two parts you can use Ark, Konqueror, kget/wget whatever you like | 18:05 |
| chem|st | kaizerslawten: are you from where your name suggests you are? | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | auenf: you can't call 112 without SIM anymore, in Germany (Europe?) | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | got disabled allegedly due to constant abuse | 18:13 |
| kaizerslawten | I'm from Brazil | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but no matter what they did on network, they can't delete your IMEI form modem | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (well, *usually*. Of course there are ways...) | 18:14 |
| kaizerslawten | He announce in National TV, that non-homologate IMEIs don't in Brazil | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually modem manufs invest a great deal of effort into making sure _nobody_ can alter/delete the modem IMEI | 18:15 |
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| KotCzarny | they can block imei, but not modify it remotely | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IMEI is like vehicle identification number /VIN/ | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: exactly | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | block == not allow the modem to register to network | 18:16 |
| kaizerslawten | exactly | 18:20 |
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| kaizerslawten | Thank you all for support! | 18:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kaizerslawten: please let me know if yu have any problems with http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no matter which ones | 18:34 |
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| RzR | anyone from greece beside qwazix ? | 23:30 |
| qwazix | guess not, everyone is glued to the tv now | 23:30 |
| RzR | the newest one :) | 23:31 |
| RzR | btw did china reacted to the situation ? | 23:31 |
| RzR | they're owning athen's port doesnt they ? | 23:31 |
| KotCzarny | O.o | 23:32 |
| qwazix | not completely, but yeah | 23:32 |
| KotCzarny | what are you talking about? | 23:33 |
| qwazix | they didn't say anything meaningful afail | 23:33 |
| RzR | there is an ongoing similar story in france | 23:33 |
| qwazix | k* | 23:33 |
| RzR | KotCzarny, we relocated a conversation about greece here ;) | 23:33 |
| qwazix | RzR what? | 23:33 |
| RzR | and qwazix deserve moral support | 23:33 |
| RzR | qwazix, toulouse's airport is about to be sold to some china company | 23:34 |
| qwazix | it's good to chat with someone outside | 23:34 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 23:34 |
| RzR | I dont know details of the deal but it is generating some buzz too | 23:34 |
| RzR | especialy when buyer is impossible to be located | 23:35 |
| qwazix | the piraeus deal caused some buzz but it died down quickly. They seem to be getting along | 23:35 |
| RzR | what about other currency in the country ? | 23:37 |
| qwazix | that's being introduced as an idea every day and then denied the next | 23:37 |
| RzR | I just sold my last USD last weekend | 23:38 |
| qwazix | IMO it will be a disaster | 23:38 |
| KotCzarny | O.o | 23:38 |
| qwazix | it will hurt tourism and services (the only things that still somehow work here) | 23:38 |
| RzR | I suppose local currencies are not the perfect answer | 23:39 |
| RzR | what will hurt tourism ? non euro currencies ? | 23:39 |
| qwazix | Greece has a long history of currency devaluation. Nothing indicates thia time will be different | 23:39 |
| RzR | btw I am wondering how big is greece's private debt compared to the state one ? | 23:40 |
| qwazix | yeah, tourists like to use their home currency, they spend more :p | 23:40 |
| qwazix | I don't remember but IIRC not too high | 23:40 |
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| qwazix | it's a cash driven economy and traditionally people keep property/land | 23:41 |
| RzR | well it worth to compare because I've been told it it much higher in france or worldwide ? | 23:41 |
| qwazix | probably is. Mortgage and refinancing is not as common as elsewhere, driving the total debt number | 23:42 |
| qwazix | down | 23:43 |
| KotCzarny | well, state debt IS people's debt | 23:44 |
| qwazix | it is | 23:44 |
| KotCzarny | in a way it's the people that will feel it | 23:44 |
| qwazix | the thing is that there are actually reforms, state expenditure is down around 30% from 5 years ago | 23:45 |
| qwazix | but this is not communicated well | 23:45 |
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| qwazix | people think we are just eating money | 23:46 |
| qwazix | my battery is dying | 23:47 |
| qwazix | good night and sorry for the channel spam... | 23:47 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:47 |
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| RzR | qwazix, take care qwazix | 23:49 |
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