IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2015-05-18

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princefakhanuhm! so my battery meter only shows 50% or 3%08:30
princefakhanlooks like it needs callibrating.08:31
princefakhanbut I'm not sure that if I charge the battery on another device then pop it in N900, it would work08:31
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OksanaNo, battery meter would not calibrate this way, I think...09:15
princefakhan:(09:16
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ceeneSicelo: there are like 10 different index.html files for the voice navigation hack for ovi12:31
ceenewould you know which is the latest/better?12:31
ceenethe wiki and first post aren't very clarifying12:31
ceeneand they contradict each other12:31
princefakhanceene: the reason I didn't apply the ovi maps hacks12:32
ceenehehe12:32
princefakhan:)12:32
ceenei assume that the latest are those attached on first post12:32
ceenebut i'm not quite sure12:32
princefakhanthere must be a time stamp on each post12:32
princefakhancheck that12:32
* princefakhan wonders why this didn't struck him earliear12:33
ceenehaha12:33
ceenei'm gonna try with attached files on first post12:34
princefakhan:D12:34
princefakhanmhmm. share your exp12:34
princefakhanbtw, can anyone tell me how to calibrate my battery if the usb is broken12:35
ceenefixing your usb?12:35
princefakhanerrr. I guess it is beyond my skills now.12:36
princefakhanI gave it to a shop. and he fvcked it even more.12:36
ceene:/12:36
princefakhanwhen my phone is totally discharged. and I plug the usb cable. it does the usual.12:37
ceenemy n900 was labeled as 'refurbished', and i'm quite sure they had the usb repaired, because i haven't had any problem12:37
ceeneif you are able to open it12:37
ceenesoldering it should be easy12:37
princefakhanstays orange for some time (pre-charging the battery or something)12:37
ceeneit's just two spots12:37
princefakhanthen 5-6 orange flashes and the whole process again12:38
ceenelike it doesn't make a good contact, is it?12:38
princefakhanI actually gave it for soldering.12:38
princefakhanthen when I got home. connected it to the charger. while unplugging the whole usb socket came apart.12:39
princefakhanand then went again and this.12:39
ceene:s12:39
princefakhanceene: something like that.12:39
princefakhanhe replaced the circuit I guess12:40
ceeneit's a pity12:41
princefakhanis the usb circuit replaceable12:41
ceenenokia should have used a through hole connector12:41
ceenethe only problem seems to be the connector itself12:41
ceene(or a better soldering station and solder masks...)12:41
princefakhanyeah. it looks like the usb socket has been just put there12:42
ceenein my experience it's pretty difficult to fuck up a manual solder for a usb connector12:43
ceenethe thing you have to be most wary about12:43
ceeneis not touching any plastic parts with the iron solder12:43
ceenei've burned several things that way12:43
ceenebut the circuit always survives :)12:43
princefakhanhaha12:43
princefakhanI never used as soldering machine.12:44
princefakhanthe reason I went to the shop actually.12:44
ceenethey screwed up big time12:44
princefakhanNow my bro says, u pretty much fvcked up a Limited Edition phone12:44
ceeneyep12:45
ceeneit's not that hard12:45
ceenei understand you not wanting to try by yourself12:45
ceenebut in a shop that supposedly does it...12:45
princefakhanI probably gave it to an unskilled guy.12:46
bencohanyway, is it in a worse state than before ?12:46
princefakhannothing bad except the usb.12:46
princefakhanso I charge the battery on another phone.12:47
bencohbut nothing beyond recovery ?12:47
princefakhanand use an e72 for cellular use12:47
princefakhanbencoh: yeah. I believe the usb can still be fixed.12:47
jogafwiw, in my opinion soldering the usb is *not* that simple12:47
jogait's TINY12:48
princefakhanjust I'm too afraid12:48
jogaand cramped12:48
bencohwhy ? is your modem/simtray broken as well ?12:48
princefakhanno. it works.12:48
princefakhanbut since there is no usb. this device has to stay off till the battery charges12:49
bencohyou can use a set of two batteries until you fix usb12:49
princefakhanI am actually using two batteries. its not bl-5j. and bigger than bl-5j12:50
princefakhanthis one is bl-4u12:50
bencohdoes it fit ?12:52
princefakhannah! it is bigger in size.12:54
princefakhanit extends .5 inches12:54
princefakhanso I have hold the device tilted.12:55
princefakhanand the cover can't fit in.12:55
princefakhan:D12:55
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KotCzarnybuy a bigger cover!14:01
KotCzarny;)14:01
princefakhanwell I want the battery callibrated for now.14:02
KotCzarnyi think it needs to be discharged/charged in the device14:04
princefakhanand that I can't do. unless my usb gets fixed14:04
KotCzarnyfind a skilled service man14:05
KotCzarnyhe doesnt need to repair phones specifically14:05
KotCzarnyyou can go to tv/computer/electronics repair shop14:05
KotCzarnybecause all that's needed is 'simple' soldering14:06
KotCzarnyask what tools they have14:06
KotCzarnyand if it's easy14:06
princefakhanit is soldered now. tho I'm not sure. cuz I couldn't open it. as I believe he changed the screws too.14:07
KotCzarnyyou can print the phone motherboard with usb area enlarged14:07
KotCzarnylol14:07
KotCzarnyi wonder if he broke screw threads too14:08
KotCzarnyor something else inside14:08
princefakhanI do. I wanted to be sure.14:09
princefakhanbut I can't.14:09
princefakhanatleast with the tools I have at home.14:09
princefakhanbtw, where are the phone schematics.14:10
princefakhani remember seeing it once on some site.14:11
bencohservice manuals14:12
princefakhanah! I found it.14:13
princefakhanwhy ae there two diff versions14:13
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princefakhanhow do I force MicroB to open the pc version of a website15:28
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sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: depends on the website. I find MicroB prefers the Full/PC version on most sites.19:39
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princefakhanI was able to change the useragent19:40
princefakhanfrom about:config19:40
sixwheeledbeastthats one option if the site uses your user agent to detect that.19:41
princefakhan:)19:42
sixwheeledbeastYou may find disabling javascript will work there to.19:43
princefakhanI didn't try that.19:43
bencohand sometimes it wont work at all :))19:43
bencoh(or faster ... your mileage may vary)19:43
princefakhananyway, I still couldn't achieve what I really wanted19:44
sixwheeledbeastIf the site is using a js search on your user agent this would work but may break other js on the site.19:44
bencohyeah :)19:44
princefakhanhmmm. so better keep it on then.19:44
sixwheeledbeastI am no web designer but I don't like that method of detecting mobile users.19:44
sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: it depends on the site and the code behind it.19:45
sixwheeledbeasthtml5 WTF!19:45
princefakhanoh! okay.19:45
princefakhanwhatever wrongs did html5 did?19:46
sixwheeledbeastsorry, that sounded wrong! ;) I was looking for something on a site...19:47
princefakhanoh!19:47
sixwheeledbeastviewport is a method of detecting mobile I have used.19:48
sixwheeledbeastSo users screen size in pixels.19:48
sixwheeledbeastYou can have a mobile/tablet and full css files then.19:49
princefakhanyou mean detecting phones via their resolution19:49
sixwheeledbeastInstead of switching between pages for different user agents.19:49
princefakhan:)19:50
sixwheeledbeastpixels across the width of the screen.19:51
sixwheeledbeastso "max-device-width: 480px" for example19:51
princefakhanoh!19:53
princefakhanI guess my brother made the family's company page just like tha19:53
princefakhan*that19:53
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sixwheeledbeastthe media="handheld" tag was a good idea, however, in there wisdom iOS and Andriod ignore them purposely...19:54
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princefakhanis there a reason?19:54
sixwheeledbeastusers may miss content is there argument19:56
princefakhanoh!19:56
sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/mobile/mobifying/19:57
princefakhanbut isn't the useragent method doing the same thing19:57
princefakhanI'm sure that is what my brother did.19:59
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ecc3gstrange.  anyone happen to get their n900 into a state where it won't charge when plugged into a wall charger, but works just fine after simply rebooting?20:33
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ecc3gworks fine, as in starts fast charging after rebooting.20:34
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KotCzarnyexx3g: i had such situation, twice or thrice21:38
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ecc3ghmm21:49
ecc3gsome stately issue i guess.21:49
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ecc3galso this is annoying, the handset ear speaker doesn't work anymore... or at least it's very flaky?21:50
ecc3ganyone seen this before?21:50
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ecc3gah...it worked that time... hmm21:52
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ecc3gpoor old phone... has to keep working, as there's no alternative... :(21:55
KotCzarnybuy another n90021:57
KotCzarny:)21:57
KotCzarnylast time i thought i broke mine, i started searching for another ;)22:02
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uros1he people, can anybody point me to guide what to do after re-flash Nokia N9 with dead store ond normal repositores? Tnx in advance from Belgrade22:45
KotCzarnyn9 or n900?22:46
uros1N9 harmattan22:47
KotCzarny~n922:47
KotCzarny~harmattan22:47
infobotharmattan is probably teh suck22:47
KotCzarnythat was.. informative22:47
KotCzarny~repos22:48
KotCzarny~repositories22:48
infobotrepositories are frequently old.22:48
KotCzarnyhttps://wiki.maemo.org/Harmattan_Tips_and_Workarounds22:50
uros1KotCzarny: Tnx :)22:50
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