IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2015-03-12

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Vajbis there a way to tell ham that i don't want to upgrade my mplayer?00:13
KotCzarnyyes, edit /etc/apt/ files00:14
KotCzarnyand pin it00:14
KotCzarnybtw. have you tried my player yet?00:15
Vajbnope i totally forgot00:15
Vajbwill install it now and test tomorro00:15
KotCzarny:)00:15
Vajbw00:15
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Vajbhmm how exactly i pin it in /etc/apt? there is no mention of mplayer there00:18
KotCzarnyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto00:18
KotCzarnyhttps://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences00:19
KotCzarnyor here00:19
Vajbsays can't download package. Package not found00:24
Vajbactually i found maemo specific instructions, but they are for apt00:24
Vajbi would like to pin it in ham.00:25
KotCzarnyham uses apt/dpkg internally00:25
Vajboh i see00:26
bencohit probably doesnt matter for non-maemo-specific packages00:26
bencoh(although some will say it's not safe and they might be right in the general case)00:27
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Vajbbut hmm. I guess pin wont work because version numbers are identical00:38
KotCzarnythen ignore it, just copy mplayer to some other place00:39
KotCzarnyor just use oscp00:39
Vajbcan't install it i told u00:39
Vajbit shows up in ham, but when i tell it to download it says can't find it00:40
KotCzarnyhuh?00:40
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KotCzarnyrefresh repos00:40
KotCzarnyi update it often00:40
Vajbmaybe that's the case00:41
Vajbnever had such problem before so i were suprised00:41
KotCzarnywhat ver ham shows?00:41
Vajbwill try again since yappari upgrade finnish00:41
Vajbyup refresh issue00:45
Vajbdloading now00:45
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newbieAlerthey! do files having sequential LBA decrease the seek time for hardisk?? ( or their physical sectors are also sequential ).04:58
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Openbothttp://jyskgvs.dk/hero-honda-workshop-06b41-manual-30d7a08:14
Openbotcan anybody check if its working ?08:15
Openboti.e the avove link08:15
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newbieAlertOpenbot: Its disabled.08:45
Openbothuum why08:45
Openbotnewbiealert08:46
Openbotall links turning up like that08:46
Openbotwhat happend to damm internet08:47
newbieAlertOpenbot: maybe something with the server .. other websites are working fine.08:48
Openbotanyway i was looking for hero honda cd 100 ss service or workshop manual as one says it08:49
Openbotcant find a damm thing anywhere08:49
Openbotnewbiealert yeah08:49
newbieAlertOpenbot: place ?? Hero honda cd 100 ss can be serviced anywhere.08:55
Openboti know i just want the manual to learn more08:57
Openboti.e modding my bike08:57
Openbotgives 80 to 84 km/l08:58
Openbotawsome just awsome08:58
newbieAlertOpenbot: Looks like my next bike :P :P08:59
Openbotwell i can say for sure you will not be dissapointed08:59
Openbottough classic bike09:00
Openbotlaunched 1994 discountunied 201009:02
Openbotmy only moaning is it does not have a fuel guage09:03
Openboti gonna put a nice cadsence sensor wire and mount properly09:04
Openboti.e going digital09:05
newbieAlertOpenbot: Sorry could not find the manual. May consult local mechanic for moddding and stuff.09:05
Openbotlocal mechanic called only when i screw up :p09:06
Openbothe lives next door09:06
Openboti just have no idea how on earth09:07
* KotCzarny has honda too09:07
KotCzarny4 wheels though09:08
Openbota feul gauge could be added09:08
Openbotlol kotczarny09:08
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KotCzarnyruns on lpg, 400km for ~12eur09:08
Openbotfour wheelies gulp feul like water09:08
Openboterr isint that cheap.09:09
Openbot?09:09
KotCzarny:)09:09
KotCzarnyit is09:09
KotCzarnylpg is cheap09:09
Openbotyeah09:09
KotCzarnyand produces fewer toxics than gas09:10
Openbotfor a student my bike is nice as survives on limited recources09:11
KotCzarnycat with lpg installation runs for 1/2-2/3 cost of regular gas engine09:11
Openbothonda what i.e model09:11
Openbotcat ??09:11
KotCzarnyold civic gen609:12
Openbotnice09:12
Openboti am just confused what to mount i.e a n900 or some other stuff ??09:13
KotCzarny?09:13
KotCzarnyas a gps/map ?09:13
Openbotn900 got modrana09:13
Openbotits nice09:13
KotCzarnyi have some local mapping system on android tablet09:14
KotCzarnybut i use it offline mostly to find routes/addresses09:14
Openboton a cadsence there would be no maps09:14
Openbothe he i got the hook of osm and edited the blank map to an essay09:15
unbroken_ftwOpenbot, you could just mount a paper mapt09:16
Openbototh nokia maps and google are ok09:16
Openbotunbroken_ftw yeah thats the way it should be done09:17
KotCzarnyunbroken: paper map doesn't have scaling09:17
Openbotbut we are blinded by the blink09:17
Openbotkotczarny pape09:18
Openbotkotczarny paper map is best dosent require a batrey09:18
unbroken_ftwOpenbot, makes you think and more aware of what youre doing as well09:19
unbroken_ftwOpenbot, and chances are you wont need a map for the same route twice09:19
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unbroken_ftwbecause _you_ are plotting out the most efficient course as you plod along09:20
Openbotand brain processes the data in turn you are efficent navigater not the damm map company09:20
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Openbotunbroken_ftw yeah i know just a nice feature to have lol09:21
Openbotc u ll later09:22
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Vajbhmm something went shouth on file transfer and now i have folder which can't be removed nor removed12:23
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KotCzarnylsof |grep 'your folder'12:24
Vajbls shows the folder, but rm says there is no such folder12:24
Vajbis there space after pipe or not?12:24
KotCzarnydoesnt matter12:24
Vajbk12:24
Vajbit took awhile but folder is still there12:25
KotCzarnyno, it just lists what program is using it12:26
Vajbno output12:26
KotCzarnyok, what is the name?12:26
Vajbso i guess it's not in use12:26
KotCzarnyand directory where it is12:26
KotCzarnymight be space in the name12:26
KotCzarnytry using wildcard12:26
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KotCzarnyie. if folder is 'somee dir '12:27
Vajb/media/mmc1/Mika*12:27
Vajbyup there is space12:27
KotCzarnyrm -rf /med/ammc1/Mika*12:27
Vajbbut wildcard doesn't help12:27
Vajbsays no such folder12:27
Vajbalso rm -R didn't work12:27
Vajboutput is always the same12:27
KotCzarnydo you have mc installed?12:28
Vajbi guess not?12:28
KotCzarnyinstall, then use it to delete12:29
Vajbk will try12:29
Vajbok what do with mc then?12:38
KotCzarnynavigate to /media/mmc1/12:38
KotCzarnyselect dir you wish to remove and press delete button12:38
Vajbi tried deleting it with hamsterfiler tho and it gave error12:38
KotCzarnyyou can also navigate inside and see if there are any red files with ? in name12:39
Vajbsamething says no such file or directory12:39
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Vajbit's empty folder12:39
KotCzarnyand what happens when you press delete?12:40
Vajbsays it cannot remove it because there is no such folder12:40
KotCzarnyhmm12:41
KotCzarnyreboot12:41
KotCzarny:)12:41
Vajband gives me option to ignore,skip,etc12:41
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KotCzarnyand i think some fsck is in order12:41
Vajbhmm mmc gets unmounted when backcover is removed so i try that now12:41
KotCzarnyyou can connect it to pc and run fs check there12:41
Vajbunmount did the trick12:44
Vajbit deleted cleanly after that12:44
KotCzarnyi would run filesystem check on that card12:44
KotCzarnycould be corrupted12:45
Vajbis windows fsck any good?12:45
KotCzarnyshould be12:45
KotCzarnyvfat is there since the beginning12:45
Vajbnow if i just manage to walk to other room and pick a cable12:46
KotCzarnyyou dont have any card reader ?12:46
Vajbnot for microsd12:46
KotCzarnyn810?12:46
Vajbn90012:47
KotCzarnyhmm12:47
KotCzarny:)12:47
bencohfsck for vfat should work on device, afaik12:47
Vajbhmm is it possible to unmount mmc and fsck from device12:47
bencoh(fsck/ext* is buggy)12:47
Vajbhah12:47
KotCzarnyyes12:47
Vajboh i c12:47
bencohI ran a fsck a few days ago, it worked12:48
Vajbbut can u see the irony in this12:48
bencohyup ;p12:48
bencohdefinitely12:48
Vajbi got that folder while wlan transfer failed12:48
KotCzarnycould be hardware hiccup12:49
Vajbso i could have just picked the cable at first place and be good lol12:49
KotCzarnythe heck, something ate all free space12:50
KotCzarnyO.o12:50
Vajboh well i'll plug it. My puppy needs more power anyway12:50
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KotCzarnyeh12:53
Vajbbtw r those microsd cards easy to pick up errors12:53
Vajbi use it a lot12:53
KotCzarnydepends12:53
Vajbbasically hudreds of mb's per day writing and then removing12:54
KotCzarnyif it's small capacity it wears out faster12:54
Vajbhundreds*12:54
Vajb32gb12:54
KotCzarnyi wouldn't worry, but don't keep anything valuable there12:54
Vajbi backup everything what i carry along12:55
Vajbfsck is almost through and no errors it seems12:56
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merlin1991bencoh: cssu has fsck/ext* that is fine15:11
bencohcssu-t :)15:12
bencohbut yeah15:12
bencohI dont think it hit stable yet15:12
KotCzarnyfremantle ftw!15:12
KotCzarny(just kidding)15:12
merlin1991yeah it's not in stable yet15:13
bencohbtw, any reason/blocking point for that, or just time/manpower ? :)15:13
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merlin1991manpower and then 1 week quarantine of the upcoming -testing release15:21
merlin1991there's some stuff in there that should go togheter with the other stuff15:21
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KotCzarnyok, clicked 'promote package' what now?16:11
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merlin1991wait ...16:57
KotCzarnyi don't have to coerce people for reviews/voting etc?16:58
merlin1991depends from where to where16:58
KotCzarnyright now devel16:58
merlin1991-devel -> -testing is just your decision as a programmer16:58
KotCzarnydidn't have any destination so most likely to testing16:58
merlin1991essentially it means -devel is many builds -testing is what you consider stable16:58
KotCzarnyanyone uses -testing nowadays?16:59
merlin1991and then from -testing -> regular extras you need the votes and stuff16:59
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chem|stKotCzarny: I never used stable in the first place...17:29
KotCzarny:)17:29
chem|stwhere is the fun in that^^17:29
KotCzarnyit's like playing minesweeper with OS17:30
KotCzarny'will it boot?'17:30
chem|stnot with maemo17:30
chem|stunless you start to replace system packages bluntly17:31
KotCzarnythat describes generic linux pkg juggle17:31
KotCzarnyon a sidenote, i've recompiled oscp for 586mmx17:31
KotCzarnyif anyone has dusted box and wants to change it into media player17:32
KotCzarny:)17:32
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KotCzarnyugh, my 32gb compact flash card just died22:37
KotCzarnyo.o22:37
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bencohKotCzarny: compact flash ?!23:44
KotCzarnybencoh: yeah23:47
drathirKotCzarny: support for n900 for music command line program also planned?23:48
KotCzarnydrathir: huh?23:49
KotCzarnyit's done already23:49
KotCzarnyunless i miss something23:49
drathirKotCzarny: thats great need to test... thanks for info...23:51
KotCzarnydrathir: you might explain what you mean by 'support for n900 for music command line program'23:51
VajbKotCzarny: how to rewind with 1minute or 10second interwalls in oscp?23:52
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drathirKotCzarny: mean oscp supporting n900 question if all is fine and safe to testing...23:53
KotCzarnydrathir: it's done for quite some time already23:53
Vajbdrathir: works in my device23:53
Vajbi just need more features than there is :p23:54
KotCzarnyvajb: i think you might have to add SEEK +/-secs command to remote23:54
KotCzarnyprotocol already has it23:54
Vajbhmm23:55
drathirVajb: thanks for confirmation...23:57
drathirKotCzarny: thats great... thanks...23:57
KotCzarnydrathir: i wouldn't put non working package in repo (unless by mistake)23:57
KotCzarnyvajb: for a quickie you can replace: self.say("FFWD") with self.say("SEEK +60")23:58
KotCzarnyin oscp-remote.py23:58
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Vajboh i was browsing through oscp.conf and planning to add seek +60 for some key23:59

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