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| newbieAlert | how to compile library in scratchbox ?? how do i nknow the entries for debian/control ???? | 05:03 | 
| totalizator | newbieAlert: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO | 05:09 | 
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| newbieAlert | totalizator: thanks :) but it does not have anything about how to write debian/control for libraries. | 05:31 | 
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| drathir | !crosscompile | 06:20 | 
| drathir | !flasher | 06:21 | 
| Oksana | newbieAlert: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html | 06:21 | 
| drathir | `ping | 06:22 | 
| Oksana | ~flasher | 06:26 | 
| infobot | i heard flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 06:26 | 
| Oksana | ~crosscompile | 06:27 | 
| Oksana | ~cross-compile | 06:27 | 
| Oksana | ~compile | 06:27 | 
| infobot | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package | 06:27 | 
| Oksana | ~ping | 06:27 | 
| infobot | ~pong | 06:27 | 
| drathir | Oksana: thanks forgot which one symbol used almost alll chans have diff ones;/ | 06:37 | 
| Oksana | Yes. /msg seems to work without the symbol, though. But, can /msg be used to ask bot to tell you what symbol does it use? | 06:38 | 
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| bencoh | T_X: are you trying to boot maemo with this kernel ? | 11:02 | 
| * Maxdamantus is about to try that kernel. | 11:15 | |
| Maxdamantus | btw, the SD card works with the cover off, in case anyone's unaware. | 11:16 | 
| Maxdamantus | (just need to stop the kernel from blocking access) | 11:16 | 
| Maxdamantus | Hmm .. what's the actual point of blocking it? | 11:17 | 
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| Maxdamantus | I don't think the block actually does anything special with the hardware. | 11:19 | 
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| Maxdamantus | so I don't think it would avoid cycling the SD card's power. | 11:19 | 
| bencoh | Maxdamantus: prevent writes while it is being physically removed | 11:20 | 
| Maxdamantus | I'd hope if that were an issue there'd be a cooldown or something somewhere. | 11:20 | 
| bencoh | but it being in kernel is a bit silly (without a sysfs option) | 11:20 | 
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. Assuming the writeback cache is small. | 11:20 | 
| Maxdamantus | so it actually does continue to write from the cache after you remove the cover? | 11:21 | 
| Maxdamantus | or do you mean within the SD card itself? | 11:21 | 
| * Maxdamantus suspects that shouldn't be a problem with the SD card itself. | 11:22 | |
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. How do you turn the backlight on if it's not on at boot (without maemo)? | 13:43 | 
| inz | I'd guess there's a proc or sysfs entry for that | 13:44 | 
| inz | Try find /proc /sys -name '*backlight*' | 13:44 | 
| Maxdamantus | Mm, it doesn't seem to turn on the way you toggle it when it's working. | 13:45 | 
| Maxdamantus | Do other people get that btw? | 13:45 | 
| Maxdamantus | it doesn't seem to turn on when using flasher to book a kernel. | 13:46 | 
| Maxdamantus | boot* | 13:46 | 
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| T_X | bencoh: yep, trying to boot that kernel | 14:46 | 
| T_X | trying to boot maemo with CSSU, right | 14:46 | 
| T_X | Oksana: right, these are the last few lines I'm seeeing on the screen | 14:46 | 
| * T_X going to add a few more modules as built-in into the zImage. I have /lib/modules/3.18-rc-6 on /opt because the root partition doesn't have enough space | 14:49 | |
| bencoh | I guess you could lsmod on maemo on copy those in your root | 14:53 | 
| bencoh | s/on/and/ | 14:53 | 
| infobot | bencoh meant: I guess you could lsmod and maemo on copy those in your root | 14:53 | 
| bencoh | infobot: bleh | 14:53 | 
| infobot | bleh means insert appropriate value here. see blah | 14:53 | 
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| T_X | bencoh: you mean only making the modules kernel-built-in which are actually loaded after a normal maemo boot? | 15:01 | 
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| bencoh | copying them, actually | 15:02 | 
| newbieAlert | Hi.. how do i get "make" command on n900?? build-essential is not present. :/ | 15:02 | 
| bencoh | but you could also build those in as well | 15:02 | 
| T_X | bencoh: copying the modules from the old 2.6.28 kernel won't work. I have a modules directory with the linux-n900 repo | 15:03 | 
| T_X | but unfortunately it's too big | 15:03 | 
| T_X | ~160MB | 15:03 | 
| T_X | while /lib/modules, the ubifs only has ~70MB available | 15:03 | 
| bencoh | T_X: copying modules from the new kernel, but only those loaded by maemo | 15:04 | 
| T_X | ah, okay! | 15:04 | 
| T_X | could work, going to check | 15:04 | 
| T_X | thx! | 15:04 | 
| newbieAlert | Or is it possible to enable SDK repo on n900 and get "make" from there ?? | 15:05 | 
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| totalizator | newbieAlert: why would you do that? | 16:03 | 
| totalizator | download Lubuntu 14.04 iso and install it in Virtualbox: ~10 min, install M5 SDK ~10 min | 16:05 | 
| totalizator | what do you want to build? | 16:21 | 
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| user_ | does xplanet requires additional data? | 16:32 | 
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| fbnccst | since it said couldnt find moon etc | 16:33 | 
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| bencoh | newbieAlert: ask sec once he's around | 16:35 | 
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| chem|st | newbieAlert: make should be in extras | 16:43 | 
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| T_X | hm, making a lot of the modules built-in didn't help either | 17:24 | 
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| newbieAlert | chem|st: make is not in extras (build-essential ) | 19:57 | 
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| newbieAlert | bencoh: i have started a thread om TMO. no replies so far. | 19:58 | 
| newbieAlert | totalizator: tmo thread for packaging has all the details.. | 19:58 | 
| newbieAlert | totalizator: bencoh:http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94466 | 20:00 | 
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| newbieAlert | sec : hi | 20:13 | 
| newbieAlert | sec : helpp with packaging libraries ??? | 20:13 | 
| bencoh | newbieAlert: I thought you wanted to build on the n900 | 20:16 | 
| chem|st | newbieAlert: http://maemo.org/packages/view/make-3.81/ | 20:21 | 
| chem|st | and you could also install that from the sdk-repo that is 3.80 | 20:22 | 
| chem|st | newbieAlert: build-essential actually depends on make | 20:24 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: i want to build it for n900. its working in scratchbox but i am not able to pack it in deb to transfer it to n900.. | 20:25 | 
| newbieAlert | chem|st: thanks.. optified ?? | 20:25 | 
| chem|st | no idea | 20:26 | 
| newbieAlert | chem|st: trying... :) | 20:26 | 
| bencoh | newbieAlert: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging | 20:26 | 
| chem|st | newbieAlert: if you are looking for packages, they are all listed on maemo.org/packages | 20:27 | 
| bencoh | depending on what you are trying to package you might need more or less work | 20:27 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: i went through that.. i have issues with packaging libraries.. specifically writing debian/control. i am not able to figure out how to write the name of packages like : libX.a and a few other things symlinked to same library. | 20:28 | 
| bencoh | (if it's already packaged for debian you'd only need to adapt the debian/rules) | 20:28 | 
| chem|st | bencoh: if you are not used to .deb... I found in quiet hard to package stuff | 20:28 | 
| bencoh | newbieAlert: oh, ok | 20:28 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: single binary thing is easy , multibinary hing, i just figured out .. but libraries, still out of my scope.. | 20:29 | 
| bencoh | debian has .install files to tell dpkg-buildpackage which files goes in which specific package | 20:29 | 
| bencoh | you should apt-get source some-package to see how it's done | 20:30 | 
| bencoh | (as an example) | 20:30 | 
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| newbieAlert | bencoh: yeah.. thanks.. but thats not the issue.. issue is how will i know the output of the source package after compilation .. line i want to coompile X.tar.gz, then how ill i know what will i produce , like it may libX.a or libX.so or maybe 5 different libXYZ.. | 20:32 | 
| newbieAlert | chem|st: naah, make install wont work on n900... requires autottols .. | 20:32 | 
| newbieAlert | *autotools | 20:33 | 
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| chem|st | newbieAlert: you wont be done by just installing "make"! | 20:34 | 
| bencoh | newbieAlert: what do you mean by "how will I know" ? | 20:34 | 
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| bencoh | you wont know unless you try, or read the build system (or a mix of the two) :) | 20:35 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: i mean lets say , i need to compile GTK.. then "where" can i find, how many packages & what packages will it produce ?? | 20:35 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: thats what i amtrying :) :) | 20:36 | 
| bencoh | I'd DESTDIR=/foo/bar make install && tree -C /foo/bar first :) | 20:36 | 
| newbieAlert | chem|st: nope. it didnot work.. requires automake, depends on autotools-dev. | 20:36 | 
| bencoh | debian has some "default" packages that are described in dpkg/debutils and/or debian packaging docs | 20:37 | 
| bencoh | (-dev, -dbg, maybe -shlibs, and a few others) | 20:37 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: thats what i did :) then in libraries, the symlink thing. :/ produces two packages and two symlinks to same package with sdifferent name .. like 1. libX.so.0 & symlink libX.so.1 | 20:37 | 
| newbieAlert | bencoh: thanks...going through sources now.. | 20:38 | 
| bencoh | oh and, read man dpkg-deb (to check .deb afterwards) | 20:38 | 
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| newbieAlert | bencoh: okay :) :) thanks for help.. i think i will just write steps for multiple-binary in tmo... :) btw, will it work if i simply copy paste the libs folder to /sur in n900. (libs : produced by make install ) ?? | 20:40 | 
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| sec | someone called? | 20:45 | 
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| newbieAlert | sec: yeah.. i did.. i was suggested to ask you my problems regarding packaging. | 21:17 | 
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