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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: your device maybe getting slower from installing extras-devel apps and widgetz | 00:37 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | adblock, recaller and many other seemingly working apps can make the device slow to a crawl. | 00:39 |
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| totalizator | my only widget in use is a calendar and I have uninstalled adblock long time ago, I thinks that my N900 is slow because of where I live | 00:44 |
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| totalizator | the 21st century | 00:45 |
| totalizator | think* | 00:45 |
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| chem|st | totalizator: the python desktop (widgets) stuff is eating your device even without the widget active, if it is installed it is started | 01:20 |
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| sledges | is n900's PMIC TWL4030/TPS65950 ? and has it been successfully using the mainstream drivers/power/twl4030_charger.c ? | 03:08 |
| sledges | asking as I heard OpenPandora folk having some weird quirks with charging batteries there | 03:08 |
| sledges | so trying to watch out for any good Nokia patches out there | 03:08 |
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| jonwil | Nokia N900 uses lots of charging stuff in closed-source BME blob | 03:23 |
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| wicket64 | N900 charging works fine without the closed BME blob when running Debian with recent kernels | 03:46 |
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| totalizator | chem|st: rly? u mean ram usage? | 04:27 |
| totalizator | I should be fine http://lpaste.net/4640198807361945600 | 04:30 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:30 |
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| chem|st | totalizator: RAM usage up to having the desktop unresponsive like you are running on a 100MHz P1 | 13:42 |
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| chem|st | nokia made me aware of this very early and I never ever even thought about using anything python on the N900 ever again | 13:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: yes, many python widget leak too. This causes h-d and h-h too become slow. | 14:54 |
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| jon_y | so why is python so leaky? | 16:35 |
| jon_y | bad design in the interpreter? or just maemo? | 16:35 |
| jon_y | or pygtk | 16:36 |
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| kerio | "leaky"? | 16:46 |
| kerio | i doubt there's memory leak bugs in cpython | 16:46 |
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| bencoh | maybe not in python, but most probably in a python widget :p | 17:00 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | jon_y, kerio, bencoh: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86804 | 18:30 |
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| totalizator | chem|st: ohwell, I have copleted Starcraft on 486DX4/100MHz with 16MB RAM :3 | 18:41 |
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| totalizator | sixwheeledbeast: no more python widgets for me then | 18:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: yep, I only use the calendar widget. I have uninstalled every other widget I can | 18:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | not even QBW which I used a lot 2 or more years ago. | 18:44 |
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| totalizator | qbw? | 18:45 |
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| totalizator | speaking of h-d - is there some easy way to paginate the launcher? like here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63460 | 18:48 |
| totalizator | original bahavior is one of the biggest design flaws of n900 for me | 18:49 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: queen beecon widget (a very useful widget application) | 18:55 |
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| stryngs | anyone have pip installed on their n00? | 18:55 |
| stryngs | n900 rather | 18:55 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: unless it was added to CSSU h-d no. Would be good to get it in there with a gconf or transitions.ini file option. | 18:58 |
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| Vajb | just out of curiosity. is there a list of all python widgets to check if i have them installed? based on ham it seems that i just have dropn900 which is python | 19:13 |
| totalizator | sixwheeledbeast: hah, I have naver even tried to instal qbw being afraid it gonna kill my n900 | 19:15 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: nope, not afaik. Maybe a search on a dependency will work. Ideally I wanted to check ever widget to see if there was a bug, however, it's not that simple as it may only happen with combinations of widgetz | 19:16 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: it's a very good, flexible app with good documentation. I just can't justify the memory usage. | 19:17 |
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| Vajb | well everything that came up on ham by python search was related to dropn900 and since it doesn't work i might just remove it | 19:22 |
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| Vajb | i don't have continuing issues with slowness but from time to time i notice some slowliness, but then at the next moment it's working fine without reboot or killing any process... | 19:24 |
| Vajb | and well. Comparing to e90 this is rocket :) | 19:25 |
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| totalizator | Vajb: you can do dpkg --get-selections | grep widget and then apt-cache depends <pkg> | 19:25 |
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| Vajb | only widget that i use at the moment is that calendar widget | 19:29 |
| Vajb | but can widget cause problems even if it's not activated on desktop? | 19:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I believe python widget can yes | 19:30 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I can only assume the device is busy doing something else, top and powertop/zzztop will help with that. | 19:32 |
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| Vajb | it seems that i don't have any python widgets installed | 19:39 |
| Vajb | what does zzztop? | 19:40 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~zzztop | 19:57 |
| infobot | zzztop is probably - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop | 19:57 |
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| Vajb | i c | 20:11 |
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| wizbit | my n900 backcover does not have a magnet, so that means the sd card is not recognized | 21:01 |
| wizbit | is there a software way to fool the n900 that the backcover is always on? | 21:01 |
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| wizbit | my god, i just realised the n900 has a stylus built in | 21:08 |
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| wizbit | where have i been | 21:08 |
| bencoh | oO | 21:10 |
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| bencoh | you mean you hadnt seen it ? | 21:10 |
| wizbit | i didnt realise it was built into the phone, and can be pulled out | 21:10 |
| kerio | when did you buy your n900 | 21:13 |
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| Sicelo | wow! | 21:22 |
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| wizbit | on ebay, got it cheap because it cant recognize extra sd card, but when i held a magnet up against the back cover, the sd card came alive | 21:29 |
| wizbit | so all i need now is another back cover what has the little magnets | 21:29 |
| wizbit | or some little magnets what i can glue on | 21:30 |
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| ashneo76 | Anybody know where to get flasher-3.5 from? | 21:36 |
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| reinob | http://web.archive.org/web/20131117084237/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 21:40 |
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| reinob | :) | 21:41 |
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| ashneo76 | Thank you so much. | 21:49 |
| reinob | make sure you download everything you might ever need and make a backup of it in three separate places | 21:49 |
| reinob | (HDD, DVD and cloud..) | 21:49 |
| ashneo76 | Yes. I plan to do that now. And possibly setup my n900 to point my backups. | 21:50 |
| ashneo76 | so Skeiron is down | 21:51 |
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| ashneo76 | Oh nvm. I misread that | 21:54 |
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| t4nk442 | Hello. I am from Russia. Recently, I have no access to wiki.maemo.org and repository.maemo.org. I can connect to repository.maemo.org through Tor or VPN in Netherlands. I have no access to wiki.maemo.org via Tor and VPN from home (Transtelecom network provider), but can connect from my work without VPN and Tor (Intercomtel provider). Сan anybody help me? | 21:57 |
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| t4nk442 | And I want to create a mirror of the repository. Is there any instructions? | 21:59 |
| reinob | t4nk442: re. first point: probably a victim of an overzealous filter. maybe techstaff can help you with that | 22:00 |
| reinob | t4nk442: re. second point: https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror | 22:01 |
| reinob | (no pun intended, hopefully you can read the wiki using your vpn) | 22:01 |
| reinob | ask again if you need help with that | 22:01 |
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| t4nk442 | Thank you. Will the repository automatically be used by other people? Or only if they manually add my address to repositories list. I ask because CentOS chooses the best mirror automatically.. | 22:12 |
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| reinob | AFAIK with apt-mirror you just create your (private) mirror. As long as you don't make your address public nobody will touch it | 22:13 |
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| t4nk442 | If I want to make a public repository, should i register it somewhere? | 22:29 |
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| reinob | not for maemo. you'd just need to "advertise" it (on talk.maemo.org) | 22:50 |
| stryngs | ~pip | 22:53 |
| infobot | methinks pip is the sexiest nerd... only a little out of Jen-ni's age range =oP | 22:53 |
| stryngs | ~easy_install | 22:53 |
| stryngs | ~easy-install | 22:53 |
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| t4nk442 | reinob: Thank you for responses. | 23:07 |
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| wizbit | what is your favourite theme for n900? | 23:46 |
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| bencoh | maemeemo with fractal (flam3) backgrounds here | 23:47 |
| wizbit | wow how cool | 23:48 |
| wizbit | can that be downloaded from a repo? | 23:48 |
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| bencoh | maemeemo ? sure | 23:51 |
| wizbit | installing :D | 23:51 |
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