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| Humpelstilzchen | probably | 11:53 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | there is a software thats pausing the player on jack unplug | 11:53 |
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| Vajb | it's default on openmediaplayer. no need for extra plugin anymore | 12:55 |
| Vajb | or configurable rather... | 12:55 |
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| vakkov | is maemo.merlin1991.at still working | 13:28 |
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| kolp | vakkov: works for me | 13:34 |
| Pali | http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg81419.html | 13:35 |
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| vakkov | 0% [Connecting to maemo.merlin1991.at (188.40.39.11)] stays like that here | 13:37 |
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| dreamer | heh, first time I'm running in to: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6295 | 14:59 |
| povbot | Bug 6295: Songs on double albums are played in wrong order ("disc number" field in ID3) | 14:59 |
| dreamer | think I'll just remove disk 2 so I can listen in sequence ;) | 15:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: What scenario would you need to set volume to zero? | 15:00 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | dreamer: yes, I have to save albums as 'In Your Honour [Disc 1]' 'In Your Honour [Disc 2]' even though the disc number is correct on the metadata | 15:02 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Alternatively If you still wish to keep the album together re-number the tracks, So ... | 15:04 |
| Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: im listening to music while working and keeping my phone in pocket. When somebody wants to talk to me i just drop volume to zero. So it would be handy if player pauses when that happens | 15:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | '101 - In Your Honour.mp3', '201 - Still.mp3', '102 - No Way Back.mp3' ... etc etc | 15:06 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Is this because the phone is locked and you can use the volume rocker? | 15:07 |
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| Vajb | yeah i can use that quickly without removing my phone from pocket | 15:07 |
| Vajb | also i modified my earplugs a bit so they r not quick enough to remove either | 15:08 |
| Vajb | because i need them to block external noise (i work at the factory) | 15:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: well my quick solution/suggestion for that is to set camera button as a pause/resume key. | 15:09 |
| Vajb | actually a great idea! Can i set that from player settings or i need some plugin? | 15:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Or if you use the Nokia supplied headset and CSSU Testing the button will pause MAFW via OMP. | 15:10 |
| zGrr | Will it work with Panucci? | 15:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | zGrr: if you can control that via D-Bus yes | 15:11 |
| Vajb | i use cssu testing but have buttonless headset | 15:11 |
| Pali | cssu enable using headset button even if voice call is not active | 15:11 |
| Pali | if your application support buttons via hal, then it will receive headset button press event | 15:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Pail: only on CSSU Testing | 15:12 |
| Pali | ok | 15:12 |
| Vajb | so how i set camera button to act as play/pause? | 15:12 |
| Pali | I think you need to grab that button from X | 15:13 |
| Pali | it working for volume keys | 15:13 |
| Pali | but I have no idea if camera button is real X key | 15:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Well you have two options, get original N900 headset (only cheap) or setup the camera button. | 15:14 |
| Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: i wanna set my camera button. How i do that? | 15:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I can't go into detail now I have to leave but if you find my wiki page there is a script to disable camera key locking and then use shortcutd to run your dbus command on cam_focus. | 15:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~beasttweaks | 15:15 |
| infobot | it has been said that beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts | 15:15 |
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| Vajb | ok i'll see if i can figure it out. Thx. | 15:16 |
| sec | Jessie is frozen | 15:20 |
| sec | \o/ | 15:20 |
| Pali | with systemd :-( :-( :-( | 15:20 |
| Pali | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592 | 15:21 |
| kerio | does it ship with debian's systemd? | 15:23 |
| kerio | Pali: lmao, the default dns is google's | 15:24 |
| bencoh | srsly ? | 15:24 |
| bencoh | I didnt even think there was a default dns | 15:24 |
| jaska | guess ill have to uninstall systemd when jessie comes and reinstall sysvinit :D | 15:24 |
| Pali | dnsmasq now supports dnssec | 15:25 |
| bencoh | jaska: it might break a few things | 15:25 |
| Pali | so you can enable it instead that systemd fucking shit | 15:25 |
| bencoh | you might need systemd-shim or something like that | 15:25 |
| kerio | i don't think you're even supposed to use systemd-resolved | 15:25 |
| kerio | it's like for internal use | 15:26 |
| Pali | I have better solution: do not install systemd and use wheezy | 15:26 |
| Pali | or better to not upgrade | 15:26 |
| zGrr | I think, I'll migrate my desktop PC back to FreeBSD altogether. | 15:26 |
| kerio | and for the system, before it's fully booted | 15:26 |
| kerio | yeah i'm looking for an alternative | 15:26 |
| kerio | but meh | 15:26 |
| jaska | dunno what im going to do at work, i have tons of wheezys | 15:26 |
| kerio | my home server runs sid | 15:26 |
| Pali | bsd has one problem: no hw support in kernel (for desktop/mobile/laptops...) | 15:26 |
| Pali | what about linux kernel + bsd userspace? | 15:26 |
| Pali | it is possible? | 15:26 |
| Pali | is there any distribution with these options? | 15:27 |
| kerio | just install gentoo idk | 15:27 |
| Pali | I would like to have something like debian or ubuntu lts where are not upgraded all packages | 15:27 |
| Pali | just backported security fixes | 15:27 |
| bencoh | there is squeeze-lts | 15:27 |
| bencoh | but it's ... old | 15:28 |
| Pali | wheezy is ok | 15:28 |
| zGrr | Pali: it's not that bad with desktop components. | 15:28 |
| Pali | zGrr: but I'm afraid of laptop | 15:28 |
| bencoh | we might get wheezy-lts before wheezy EOL | 15:28 |
| Pali | where I want also some powersave settings and better battery usage | 15:28 |
| bencoh | but still meh | 15:28 |
| kerio | Pali: buy a macbook! :D | 15:28 |
| kerio | launchd is nice! | 15:28 |
| bencoh | haha | 15:28 |
| Pali | bencoh: I think that wheeze-lts is oj | 15:29 |
| bencoh | launchd is actually "better" than systemd ... but it's xml all the way :p | 15:29 |
| Pali | macbook is another piece of shit with their non working SW | 15:29 |
| kerio | bencoh: *plist | 15:29 |
| bencoh | kerio: yeah, even worse | 15:29 |
| sec | ~apple | 15:29 |
| infobot | somebody said apple was a fruit or a company that makes iPods, iPads, iPhones, and Macs, or the thing that Satan used to tempt Eve | 15:29 |
| kerio | there's also a binary format for plists! :D | 15:29 |
| zGrr | Pali: I am afraid of virtualization. It had always been lagging behind Linux. | 15:29 |
| bencoh | kerio: I dont even want to talk about that dirty thing :] | 15:30 |
| kerio | idk, i'm kinda growing used to the microkernel architecture | 15:30 |
| kerio | like, the pager is just another daemon | 15:30 |
| bencoh | hmm, yeah | 15:30 |
| Pali | apple and microkernel?? hahahahaha | 15:30 |
| sec | Why did Apple need Tim Cook when Jobs was thinner and lighter already .. | 15:30 |
| kerio | so you can just stop it if you're going to never run out of ram | 15:31 |
| kerio | Pali: darwin is a microkernel | 15:31 |
| bencoh | osx is too greedy for that | 15:31 |
| kerio | by definition | 15:31 |
| bencoh | some kernel drivers are leaky | 15:31 |
| Pali | look how are some parts glued into that micorkernel | 15:31 |
| Pali | so hahahaha, no microkernel | 15:32 |
| sec | Darwin can afford to be a microkernel because of the limited hardware it is supposed to support | 15:32 |
| bencoh | Pali: dont you like iokit magic ? :p | 15:32 |
| Pali | anyway, back... do you know some distribution which using linux kernel and bsd userspace? | 15:32 |
| bencoh | I personally dont | 15:32 |
| Pali | I think this could be really good alternative | 15:32 |
| Pali | no systemd and other lennarts shits | 15:32 |
| bencoh | and I'd rather go for freebsd (for instance) | 15:32 |
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| Pali | with kernel for good hw support | 15:33 |
| bencoh | anyway we'll soon have kdbus in linux | 15:33 |
| bencoh | so its doomed already :p | 15:33 |
| jaska | can always say N to the menuconfig for it :) | 15:33 |
| Pali | this is only imagination of greg and lennart | 15:33 |
| kerio | bencoh: eeh | 15:34 |
| kerio | i don't think so | 15:34 |
| bencoh | I hope you're right | 15:34 |
| Pali | greg is not big boss | 15:34 |
| kerio | i don't think linus will fall for it | 15:34 |
| kerio | and he's still the dude with commit access | 15:34 |
| bencoh | :) | 15:34 |
| Pali | and maybe something with name kdbus could be in kernel... but only if it will be usable | 15:35 |
| Pali | if they create some useful IPC, then it can be really in kernel | 15:35 |
| Pali | and name does not matter | 15:35 |
| Pali | but do you remember? | 15:35 |
| Pali | AF_BUS was already rejected | 15:35 |
| Pali | and other previous versions too... | 15:36 |
| jaska | theyre trying to sneak outside the network stack now :) | 15:36 |
| Pali | so some piece of shit will not hit mainline kernel | 15:36 |
| Pali | and why not to fork debian or maintain systemd less version of debian? | 15:38 |
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| Pali | guy who broke 1/3 of all computers should not continue to do this disaster... | 15:39 |
| * kolp likes the idea of Qubes OS | 15:40 | |
| sec | Pali really hates systemd :P | 15:40 |
| sec | Or Lennart or w/e | 15:40 |
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| bencoh | meanwhile, I'm fighting with sysvinit because this is truly a shitty piece of code .... | 15:41 |
| bencoh | INIT: /etc/inittab[43]: process field too long | 15:41 |
| bencoh | line was something like 160chars | 15:41 |
| Pali | openrc? | 15:41 |
| bencoh | harcoded limit at 127, with magicnums in code | 15:43 |
| bencoh | (and hardcoded if (strlen(bleh) > 127) ) | 15:43 |
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| Luke-Jr | sec: who *doesn't* hate systemd? :P | 15:48 |
| sec | I don't hate it. I don't love it either :/ | 15:49 |
| sec | I really don't care at this point | 15:50 |
| zGrr | I am still hoping that systemd quality might be biggest obstacle preventing widespread implementation | 15:53 |
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| dreamer | sixwheeledbeast: that's for the directory-name? | 16:02 |
| dreamer | or you have to put that in the id3? | 16:02 |
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| dreamer | hmm, I have a couple applications that won't upgrade. recently did a reinstall from a backup .. might be because I used some other repositories and those haven't been set? | 16:07 |
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| dreamer | some qt-libraries that are conflicting | 16:09 |
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| sec | I think the GPS chip on mine is fried or something | 16:54 |
| sec | ._. | 16:54 |
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| Sicelo | sec: that would be unfortunate. what leads you to that conclusion? | 17:27 |
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| jaska | ~calibration | 17:28 |
| jaska | hmmh | 17:28 |
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| jaska | hmh, there is a script to do it.. but what was it | 17:30 |
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| sec | Sicelo: not getting a GPS lock forever | 17:31 |
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| Sicelo | tried location-test gui? | 17:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | dreamer: directory or file names, were my examples. yes | 17:46 |
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| Sicelo | lock can take long usually, esp. if you aren't using a supl server. note that supl.google hasn't worked for a long time on N900 (or did the situation change?) | 17:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sec: If you leave device outside for a good hour on a clear day and get no fix there is something broken. | 17:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | supl.nokia.com is now the only working server for our devices I believe. You need the fix from CSSU tho. | 17:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: Did you work it out? | 17:49 |
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| * sixwheeledbeast hopes ubuntu will come to there senses and just carry on using upstart. | 17:50 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~slay systemd | 17:50 |
| * infobot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!" apt lops off systemd's head. | 17:50 | |
| sec | sixwheeledbeast: I'll try again when it's clear outside. Thanks | 17:51 |
| Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: yes. I used ur scripts to use camera button while locked and then installed shortcutd | 17:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sec: You can get a fix without A-GPS, it takes time to get the almanac data and if the signal is blocked it can take forever. | 17:53 |
| Vajb | also disabled camera coming up when pressing the button and now it seems to work | 17:53 |
| Vajb | will see next week how usable it is but so far it seems superb. Thanks a lot | 17:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I used camera _focus and don't press too hard. | 17:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | also you can have long press for skip track and short press for play/resume | 17:55 |
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| Vajb | yeah i saw that from menu | 17:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: You shouldn't need to block the camera as the camera key button will still be locked. Only cam_focus is unlock with the script. | 17:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/unlock/unlocked | 17:56 |
| Vajb | oh i thought i should block it coz it was coming up when i tried without locked screen | 17:57 |
| Vajb | and it's kinda hard to estimate pressure strenght since im pressing it through pocket so there is fabric inbetween | 17:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: If the screen is locked you can press the camera key and nothing will happen as the key is locked. | 17:58 |
| dreamer | sixwheeledbeast: well, in my case the albums are in different subdirs. disc1/ and disc2/ but in the mediaplayer they are all jumbled up | 17:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It takes practice to get cam_focus press perfect, but after a while it's second nature | 17:59 |
| Vajb | yeah will start trying it next week | 17:59 |
| Vajb | is there easy way to make same setting for panucci or nqapp? | 17:59 |
| Vajb | they r audiobook players | 18:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | dreamer: that makes no sense, if they are in different dirs I can't see how they are getting mixed up. | 18:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: You will have to edit the D-Bus command | 18:00 |
| dreamer | sixwheeledbeast: well, subdirs. so maybe it takes the top-level and puts them in there? they have a 'Disc: 1/2' in the id3 | 18:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: So instead of selecting the preset "mediaplayer play/pause", you can use custom and type the command for it. | 18:02 |
| Vajb | drop me a line for solution to panucci when u have time since i have no idea how to make stuff work without tutorials :) | 18:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~phonecontrol | 18:02 |
| infobot | somebody said phonecontrol was http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control | 18:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I don't use panucci but see above for how dbus calls work | 18:03 |
| Vajb | yeah im looking | 18:03 |
| Vajb | but as i understand i will have to change setting according to program i use? Or i can keep both settings under same setting and they get enabled only when that program is active? | 18:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Other | 18:04 |
| Vajb | meaning that camera key will play pause which ever player is active | 18:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | You will hae to edit the setting unfortunately. | 18:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Unless you can make a clever script to do everything and call that instead. | 18:05 |
| Vajb | well it's not big hussle after i master the commands | 18:05 |
| Vajb | i can always save setting as text file and just copypaste it there as needed | 18:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | that is another option I suppose. | 18:06 |
| Vajb | just to make things clear. I found a section which says panucci pause. So i just paste that as a custom command and it should work yes? | 18:08 |
| raccoon_ | dreamer: what id3 tag is that? and is the value exactly like you pasted: 'Disc: 1/2'? i think the "disc" tag is supposed to have integer values not strings... | 18:12 |
| Vajb | hah success | 18:13 |
| raccoon_ | if the two albums have the same 'album' tag but unparseable 'disc' tags they will surely get mixed up. | 18:13 |
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| Vajb | custom command for panucci is now under short press and for mediaplayer under longpress | 18:13 |
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| Vajb | maybe to just add cd1 and cd2 to album names. | 18:17 |
| Vajb | hmm actually needed to change the order since panucci is bouncing up when it's dbus command is triggered and media player does not | 18:21 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: I was afk, yes. | 18:22 |
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| Vajb | heh cant wait to get back to work and test this setup lol | 18:25 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I imagine a script could be made and called as a custom command, so (if, panucci is running, do panucci_pause, else call mafw_pause) Would need to play about and work it out. Be a good script to learn on. | 18:26 |
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| Vajb | hmm true | 18:31 |
| Vajb | i'll see how it goes and maybe one day i try some scripting | 18:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh well have fun at work ;) | 18:32 |
| Vajb | haha thanks | 18:32 |
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| Vajb | tho i have to struggle through weekend first | 18:32 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Vajb: My plan is to make a plug in adapter for my headphones. so a male 4-pin connector to a switch and then a female 3-pin connector for my standard headphones. Then the switch will be my pause/play and the cam_focus can be skip track (or vice-versa). | 18:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I may get round to it one day.... | 18:36 |
| Vajb | cool idea | 18:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | For now the WH-205 headset works fine and is cheap so not worth the time. | 18:37 |
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| Vajb | i customixed my maxell sport headset with in ear plugs | 18:38 |
| Vajb | u know that ear thingy which protects ur hearing | 18:38 |
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| Vajb | so i just punched hole through it and put some heat moldable plastic over headset speakers and voila | 18:39 |
| Vajb | much lower external noise plus better bass | 18:40 |
| Vajb | planning to use koss plugs next time for even better sound quality | 18:41 |
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| Vajb | how many of j use yappari? | 22:06 |
| Vajb | and how many faces the problem that from time to time n900 starts asking if it should connect to somewhere or disconnect? | 22:07 |
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| Vajb | j=u* | 22:07 |
| Vajb | im asking because mine does | 22:08 |
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| Vajb | im mostly connected but from time to time my phone starts popping up network connection dialog even though network is still connected | 22:09 |
| Vajb | it seems to me that it just starts asking for the joy of asking... | 22:09 |
| Sicelo | Vajb: i use Yappari daily | 22:10 |
| Vajb | im not sure if it's related to yappari, but i didn't got it before yappari so im feeling kinda suspicious | 22:10 |
| Vajb | have u faced anything what i just descriped? | 22:11 |
| Sicelo | that shouldn't be yappari. it does not ask fo connection. will only connect when there is already an active connection | 22:11 |
| Sicelo | it never opens it | 22:11 |
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| Vajb | hmm | 22:15 |
| Vajb | then what it is? | 22:16 |
| Vajb | i have yappari facebook chat and irssi which use gprs | 22:16 |
| Vajb | and from time to time my phone starts asking whether or not is hould disconnect from here and reconnect there | 22:17 |
| Vajb | and that started after i used yappari like few weeks | 22:17 |
| Vajb | problem disappears if i just agree to disconnect and reconnect. (to same network or connection type that is) | 22:18 |
| sec | ~irssi | 22:19 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, irssi is a modular IRC client for UNIX. See http://irssi.org/, or the door to the 1337 | 22:19 |
| Vajb | it's not big of a problem, but strange behaviour | 22:19 |
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| sec | Anyone have a deb for a recent irssi? | 22:19 |
| Vajb | i installed that build from forums | 22:19 |
| Vajb | .17 or something | 22:19 |
| Humpelstilzchen | the point of irssi is to ssh into an always on server where irssi resides in a screen ;) | 22:20 |
| Vajb | supports perl scripts | 22:20 |
| sec | Erm, Humpelstilzchen, my N900 is a portable always on server | 22:20 |
| Humpelstilzchen | how do you mange that? | 22:20 |
| sec | Temporarily atleast | 22:21 |
| Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: my n900 is always on gprs so im on irc always without any special gadgets ;) | 22:21 |
| sec | ^ | 22:21 |
| Sicelo | possibly facebook Vajb? it is the one thing i don't have in your list | 22:21 |
| sec | I have free data, might as well use it | 22:21 |
| Humpelstilzchen | Vajb: and it doesn't change its IP adress when you move? | 22:21 |
| Humpelstilzchen | tunnel free country? | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | sec: recent irssi -- http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1443068#post1443068 | 22:22 |
| Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: well no to know exactly what u mean i try to be funny and say "well i live in finland, not much tunnels in my area" eh? | 22:23 |
| sec | Thanks Sicelo! | 22:23 |
| sec | I checked that out a while back, but the link wasn't working then | 22:23 |
| Humpelstilzchen | Vajb: probably one of the few countrys with nearly 100% coverage.. | 22:23 |
| Vajb | Sicelo: hmm maybe, but mostly it starts askig for connection when something happens in yappari | 22:24 |
| Sicelo | sec: hmm, really? probably your side. that's my dropbox account btw, and i haven't moved the file at all | 22:24 |
| sec | Cheers, thanks | 22:24 |
| Sicelo | strange then Vajb. you might want to check /home/user/.config/scorpius/yappari.log to see if you find anything | 22:25 |
| Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: agreed. Pretty good coverage alround where i move | 22:25 |
| sec | Erm I have pretty much 100% coverage too | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | you can even past that log on the Yappari thread. Scorpius is still active in fixing bugs | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | *post | 22:27 |
| Humpelstilzchen | Vajb: but won't a always on irssi dry up the battery very fast? | 22:27 |
| Vajb | Sicelo: pff log longer than my life so far. Will take some time to crawl it through | 22:27 |
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| Vajb | Humpelstilzchen: as a matter of fact it does, but as i live in finland we have sockets laying all over the place ;) | 22:28 |
| Humpelstilzchen | wtf | 22:28 |
| Humpelstilzchen | where can I sign in | 22:29 |
| Vajb | dunno | 22:29 |
| Vajb | at finnish embassy? | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | delete the log :) | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | a new one will be opened | 22:30 |
| Vajb | can u give me an example of what to look? | 22:30 |
| Vajb | i could use leafpad search... | 22:30 |
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| Vajb | ok i feel like i've had it with this log. Can i just delete it from hamsterfiler? | 22:32 |
| Sicelo | yes | 22:32 |
| Sicelo | delete exististng log. next time you get unexpected connection dialog, just go into the log to see .. | 22:33 |
| Vajb | ok | 22:33 |
| sec | Thanks Sicelo :) | 22:35 |
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| Sicelo | but Scorpius will help better, but of course, log becomes necessary | 22:35 |
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| Vajb | i guess :) | 22:36 |
| sec | What's the package for the CA Certs? | 22:39 |
| sec | I have maemosec-certman-common-ca installed, but no certificates in /etc/ssl/certs | 22:40 |
| sec | Oh nvm, they're lying around in /etc/certs | 22:41 |
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| HtheB | guys, is there any way we can get .pnd files to run for the N900? | 23:01 |
| HtheB | (open pandora files) | 23:02 |
| HtheB | since it uses similair hardware and debian based os. | 23:02 |
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| anYc | does anyone know why the emmc image "central europe" is >200mb larger than the vanilla emmc image? | 23:20 |
| anYc | http://galif.eu/nokia/N900/ | 23:20 |
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| anYc | I'm unsure which I should choose as I live in central europe :) | 23:21 |
| anYc | oh, it's >400mb larger | 23:22 |
| Vajb | yep so it seems | 23:23 |
| Vajb | maybe u have 400mb worth of special characters lol | 23:23 |
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| anYc | maybe all the surveillance tools are preinstalled so our governments don't have to hack the devices | 23:26 |
| anYc | well, I guess I try vanilla first | 23:26 |
| Vajb | yes | 23:26 |
| Vajb | "nsa inside" | 23:27 |
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| kerio | anYc: emmc image is useless anyway | 23:50 |
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