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| Vajb | now when i set usb mode to host it changed to no data or not calibrated and after changing back to peripheral mode it shows same (wrong) mah value | 07:46 |
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| Nokiabot | ~Pong | 12:08 |
| infobot | ping, or also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_video_game | 12:08 |
| Nokiabot | ~Maemo | 12:09 |
| Nokiabot | ~Dict maemo | 12:09 |
| infobot | could not find definition for maemo | 12:09 |
| Nokiabot | ~Wiki maemo | 12:09 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Use dmy dates|date=July 2012}} {{Infobox OS | name = Maemo | logo = | screenshot = | caption = Screenshot of Maemo 5 | website = {{URL |http://www.maemo.org/}} | author = Nokia | developer = Hildon Foundation | family = Linux | source_model = Largely open source with mandatory proprietary components{{cite web |url = http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages | publisher = Mæmo | ... | 12:09 |
| Nokiabot | ~Nokiabot | 12:10 |
| infobot | you are, like, so damm sexy that doc burns inside out :p | 12:10 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 13:40 |
| MrPingu | Hi | 13:41 |
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| pdanek | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla | 14:19 |
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| teotwaki | ~forget Nokiabot | 15:42 |
| infobot | cannot alter locked factoids, teotwaki | 15:42 |
| teotwaki | ~unlock Nokiabot | 15:43 |
| teotwaki | dafuq | 15:43 |
| teotwaki | how the hell did he get that locked? | 15:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I thought only the creator could unlock locked factoids. | 15:54 |
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| bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: so ... calendar can subscribe to icals and automagically sync ? | 18:46 |
| MrPingu | bencoh, did I miss something? | 18:51 |
| bencoh | 13:36 < sixwheeledbeast> MrPingu: I have imported Ical to calendar. IIRC MicroB will ask if you want to add it to Calendar? | 18:51 |
| bencoh | 13:37 < sixwheeledbeast> MrPingu: I added all the motoGP dates to my calender that way, I could even give them there own colour too. | 18:51 |
| bencoh | (yesterday I think) | 18:51 |
| MrPingu | Ah I missed that :S | 18:51 |
| MrPingu | anyway, I can import ical predefined files | 18:52 |
| MrPingu | but not ical subscription | 18:52 |
| MrPingu | afaik | 18:52 |
| MrPingu | It's webcal://timetable.tudelft.nl/*personal-token* | 18:55 |
| MrPingu | Unable to open, Webtype not supported | 18:56 |
| bencoh | what about ical:// ? | 18:56 |
| bencoh | or cal:// | 18:57 |
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| MrPingu | If I use http:// it gives me an ical file | 19:03 |
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| MrPingu | But it doesn't recognize it as I cal files but I can save it and open it with calendar | 19:06 |
| MrPingu | But that file is not a subscription but my whole timetable for a year, which is not what I want in case of room changes | 19:07 |
| MrPingu | When lecture room changes on my online timetable, it should change on my device too. | 19:09 |
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| Vajb | now i let it reboot wit bq running and after bootup applet shows bit closer to reality 1308 when bq shows 1444 | 19:12 |
| Sicelo | MrPingu: if your calendar cannot be subscribed to using one of the methods in http://wiki.maemo.org/Sync, then no, you can't | 19:17 |
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| Sicelo | i think our SyncEvolution is even old now, and apparently doesn't work for some configurations as a result | 19:17 |
| MrPingu | Sicelo: It's just a normal calendar subscription, don't know what protocol | 19:18 |
| Sicelo | are you able to sync on desktop? | 19:21 |
| MrPingu | On outlook, yes | 19:21 |
| MrPingu | Don't know how much it syncs | 19:21 |
| MrPingu | Though | 19:21 |
| MrPingu | It updates every day I think | 19:22 |
| Sicelo | haha... on a linux desktop then? | 19:23 |
| MrPingu | nfc :P | 19:23 |
| Sicelo | anyway, i think you can focus your efforts on syncevolution.. | 19:24 |
| MrPingu | Have to use windows for various programs at university | 19:24 |
| Sicelo | it's likely to be what you need | 19:24 |
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| Sicelo | try it with current syncevolution, otherwise you might have to get it rebuilt ;) | 19:37 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | MrPingu: here is an example http://wiki.maemo.org/Adding_holidays_to_Calendar | 20:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh and bencoh ^^ | 20:34 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I use Qalendar FWIW. | 20:38 |
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| Sicelo | lool. i got the ics file for South Africa holidays. now calendar crashes non-stop | 20:45 |
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| Sicelo | guess now i've got to find a way to manipulate the calendar and remove the Holidays | 20:51 |
| MrPingu | aaargh, good luck | 21:18 |
| Sicelo | lol | 21:19 |
| Sicelo | MrPingu: it should have worked .. not sure what's wrong with the South Africa calendar there.. i must say i wonder why sixwheeledbeast suggested that for your use case as you've got a 'changing' calendar afaiui | 21:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | er? | 21:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If you setup a separate calendar, just delete that calendar | 21:21 |
| Sicelo | i tried that via sqlite3. anyway, i'm fixed now. i eventually just deleted the whole calendardb and synced from my Outlook.com account (which I only use for calendar) | 21:23 |
| Sicelo | happily i didn't have too many entries at this particular time | 21:23 |
| MrPingu | Yeah, well I think I will check manually for changes | 21:24 |
| Sicelo | your Android & iPhone friends can sync? | 21:28 |
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| MrPingu | Yep | 21:59 |
| MrPingu | Because it's loaded as remote ical file | 21:59 |
| MrPingu | But the n900 instead of using the url to retrieve the data file | 22:00 |
| MrPingu | can only save the file to a local filesystem | 22:00 |
| MrPingu | And *then* retrieve the data in the file | 22:01 |
| Sicelo | i feel that syncevolution would work.. anyway, up to you if you want to play with it | 22:01 |
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| MrPingu | I see, nah I will use it this way. Changes are not regular and more like emergencies. And mostly my friends are kind enough to notify me if sudden changes happen | 22:03 |
| Sicelo | :) | 22:04 |
| gogogogo_ | hello, 2 questions: 1) do you know of any alternative mail client for maemo5 other than the built-in one? 2) Would you expect a different responsiveness after loading a lot of files into /home/MyDoc? My n900 is acting slower now.. | 22:05 |
| kolp | MrPingu: sounds like you could lodge that as an enhancement request for qalendar :) | 22:05 |
| Sicelo | 1) almost endless possibilites. see tmo. i use mutt mostly | 22:05 |
| Sicelo | 2) no, afaik | 22:06 |
| gogogogo_ | thanks Sicelo, I don't seem to be able to find a proper category to find email clients.. I'll look into mutt | 22:06 |
| MrPingu | gogogogo_: claws mail is available on tmo and theres also alpine (cli) | 22:06 |
| MrPingu | kolp: Good one! | 22:07 |
| gogogogo_ | thank you | 22:07 |
| gogogogo_ | as for the second issue: I downloaded a 16gb wikipedia dump to my /home/MyDocs via computer, then unzipped and uploaded to my n900 | 22:08 |
| gogogogo_ | it was just files, dead storage, nothing else.. that is to be read by Evopedia | 22:08 |
| gogogogo_ | how could this slow down my hildon? | 22:09 |
| gogogogo_ | sorry, I mean I downloaded it to my computer and then uploaded to /home/MyDocs after unzipping | 22:09 |
| gogogogo_ | why none of the mail clients you suggested is available through maemo.org/downloads ? | 22:10 |
| erlehmann | i find the default mail client shit | 22:11 |
| gogogogo_ | I haven't tried yet lest my data would be sent over to Nokia.. | 22:12 |
| kolp | erlehmann: why? | 22:12 |
| erlehmann | kolp it cannot load my inbox | 22:13 |
| erlehmann | i would love to have notmuch on my n900 | 22:13 |
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| gogogogo_ | as far as I understand many use easy-debian to be able to use desktop computer applications for their mail | 22:17 |
| gogogogo_ | is that why? | 22:17 |
| erlehmann | probably a part of it | 22:18 |
| gogogogo_ | mmm... I only use yandex and although it provides a light-weight webmail too I'd rather use a proper mail client for writing mails right away | 22:20 |
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| gogogogo_ | webmail will do as always but I bet there is something good to install, I just don't trust Nokia's client | 22:21 |
| erlehmann | gogogogo_ have you installed cssu | 22:21 |
| gogogogo_ | no :\ | 22:21 |
| gogogogo_ | I haven't looked into it yet | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | gogogogo_: i think you can trust the mail client, haha. the code there has been looked at many times by many volunteers.. | 22:22 |
| gogogogo_ | this is good news | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | it's open source .. all of it (afaik) | 22:22 |
| kolp | it is indeed | 22:23 |
| Sicelo | just a few days ago kolp here fixed ssl/tls things or us | 22:23 |
| Sicelo | ah.. the man himself ;) | 22:23 |
| Sicelo | *for | 22:23 |
| erlehmann | kolp how can one fix the stupid message limit | 22:23 |
| kolp | by increasing the relevant buffers, I guess :) | 22:23 |
| gogogogo_ | what about the provider and your prefix being communicated to Nokia though? | 22:23 |
| gogogogo_ | as the first page of the wizard says | 22:24 |
| kolp | gogogogo_: I looke dinto this briefly and couldn#t find it in the version I was looking at. maybe it has been removed, not sure | 22:24 |
| kolp | It's on my list of things to look into | 22:24 |
| kolp | properly | 22:24 |
| gogogogo_ | then you are referring to a client which you update via CSSU? | 22:24 |
| gogogogo_ | sorry for the noobness | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | one more thing gogogogo_ .. as far as Nokia is concerned, the N900 doesn't exist nowadays.. chances they would set aside server resources for 'spying' on it are really low :p | 22:25 |
| gogogogo_ | thanks, I like your answers | 22:25 |
| Sicelo | they are even closing down the one thing which had access to your mail accounts (if you set it) .. Nokia Messaging | 22:25 |
| gogogogo_ | thanks Nokia for leaving us alone, from my point of view ;) | 22:26 |
| gogogogo_ | even though as a noob I can't really contribute to the community work | 22:27 |
| erlehmann | how to make location servers work? | 22:28 |
| gogogogo_ | so, you kolp updated the source itself and these updates are available to cssu users? | 22:28 |
| kolp | modest received a few updates in cssu, yes (my recent fix is only in the -devel branch) | 22:29 |
| Sicelo | erlehmann: cssu .. only nokia's ones, afaik | 22:29 |
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| gogogogo_ | my built-in client doesn't load my mailbox | 22:36 |
| gogogogo_ | darn | 22:36 |
| gogogogo_ | trying via wi-fi | 22:37 |
| gogogogo_ | ok it works! | 22:38 |
| gogogogo_ | it only takes forever C: | 22:39 |
| gogogogo_ | ahahahahaha, can you believe all my emails are dated 1/1/1970? | 22:40 |
| gogogogo_ | and... they're all flagged "Expunged" | 22:40 |
| gogogogo_ | C: nice | 22:40 |
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| Sicelo900 | lol. i would suspect the flags on your mail server | 22:41 |
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| gogogogo_ | well.. you have to admit that if they were using emails in 1970 they're pretty cutting-edge | 22:43 |
| gogogogo_ | oh lord, it works terribly XD | 22:43 |
| gogogogo_ | I'd be better off with putty | 22:44 |
| Sicelo900 | what's the matter? | 22:45 |
| gogogogo_ | it keeps loading forever, in the end a readable list gets broken, every mail "Expunged" and dated 1/1/1970, unreadable | 22:46 |
| gogogogo_ | on and off I can read a few messages | 22:46 |
| Sicelo900 | how many mails you have? | 22:47 |
| gogogogo_ | it depends on each folder | 22:47 |
| gogogogo_ | some have hundreds, other <100 | 22:47 |
| gogogogo_ | sometimes I get "message not available on the server" too | 22:48 |
| gogogogo_ | I mean... isn't it just text? Is that so heavy to load? | 22:49 |
| Sicelo900 | sorry. seems slowness is the biggest complait about modest. myself i've not had problem | 22:51 |
| gogogogo_ | too bad... I hoped I could rely on it for work :S | 22:52 |
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| kolp | modest works well for me, too | 22:53 |
| gogogogo_ | do you believe cssu would help? | 22:54 |
| Vajb | i use gmail with default client and never had any problems. used it with cssu stable and now with testing | 23:01 |
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| Sicelo900 | to be fair .. all complaints seem to be related to large numbers of emails. | 23:04 |
| Sicelo900 | so i don't know if you could try reorganize your mails gogogogo_ and see if it's any better. especially Inbox, which is obviously the busiest folder | 23:05 |
| gogogogo_ | my heaviest folder has 200 emails, while inbox has slightly more than 100 | 23:06 |
| gogogogo_ | is this kind of numbers you're referring to? | 23:06 |
| gogogogo_ | I'm already sorting things into specific folders | 23:06 |
| Sicelo900 | my All Mail folder in Gmail has 7900 mails according to Mutt. modest has no problem with them. | 23:10 |
| gogogogo_ | that's insane | 23:11 |
| Asimov | I have close to ~2k. No problems. | 23:12 |
| gogogogo_ | how fortunate, any suggestions? | 23:12 |
| Asimov | idk, is a reflash worth it? | 23:13 |
| gogogogo_ | might be | 23:14 |
| gogogogo_ | I have other reasons to reflash for | 23:14 |
| Sicelo900 | tbh, i didn't really understand what your exact problem is .. messages saying 1970 or deleted sounds like something on your mail server. try looking at them with a better client, like mutt. you should be able to see weird flags, etc, and prolly fix them. just my 2 cents. | 23:14 |
| gogogogo_ | how can I use mutt? I can't find it anywhere for meamo | 23:15 |
| gogogogo_ | I'm using my mail on thunderbird (windows) and it works flawlessly | 23:15 |
| gogogogo_ | but I know this russian service is a bit strange | 23:15 |
| Sicelo900 | in thunderbird all dates are fine? | 23:16 |
| gogogogo_ | yes | 23:16 |
| gogogogo_ | absolutely | 23:16 |
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| gogogogo_ | never seen anything like that | 23:16 |
| gogogogo_ | (before) | 23:16 |
| Asimov | ~mutt | 23:17 |
| infobot | rumour has it, mutt is the client of choice for now I think. althea for IMAP. | 23:17 |
| gogogogo_ | althea then | 23:17 |
| Asimov | http://wiki.maemo.org/Improving_Modest_email_sync_reliability#Accessing_a_IMAP_GMail_account_using_mutt | 23:17 |
| gogogogo_ | wonderful | 23:18 |
| Sicelo900 | that page.. problem number 5 isn't true :D | 23:18 |
| Sicelo900 | and install mutt from repos.. no need for external debs | 23:19 |
| gogogogo_ | will I need to manually edit config files anyway? | 23:21 |
| Sicelo900 | of course. the muttrc | 23:21 |
| gogogogo_ | thanks, I've never used mutt before | 23:21 |
| gogogogo_ | "your network connection must be fast, because browsing emails will constantly make network connection to the remote IMAP account" | 23:22 |
| gogogogo_ | unfortunately I'm almost always on 2G connections | 23:23 |
| gogogogo_ | so mutt is only good when on WiFi? | 23:23 |
| Sicelo900 | no. | 23:24 |
| Sicelo900 | actually, if you set up cache, should be useable. i also use 2G 80% of the time | 23:25 |
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| Sicelo900 | wow. my gmail headers file is 11MB | 23:27 |
| gogogogo_ | will cache be stored inside MyDocs? | 23:28 |
| Sicelo900 | wherever you set it too | 23:29 |
| Sicelo900 | *to | 23:29 |
| gogogogo_ | okay | 23:29 |
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| Sicelo900 | gogogogo_: http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttGuide/Caching | 23:33 |
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| bencoh | erlehmann: building notmuch for n900 sounds doable | 23:50 |
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| bencoh | it's pure C isnt it ? | 23:50 |
| erlehmann | i don't know | 23:55 |
| erlehmann | ask in #notmuch | 23:55 |
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