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zGrrmoin :)14:37
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freemangordon_hmm, interesting https://pypi.python.org/pypi/hangups/0.115:09
freemangordon_might worth it to port that to Qt15:10
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kerio"Because of this, hangouts must be implemented by reverse-engineering."15:34
keriono, because of this we should stop using that shit15:34
bencoh+115:34
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freemangordon_kerio: I am not using it, but it may become inevitable at some point of time16:34
freemangordon_*in time16:34
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sixwheeledbeast~seen M4rtinK20:11
infobotm4rtink <~M4rtinK@ip-78-102-146-131.net.upcbroadband.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 20d 17h 41m 39s ago, saying: 'and the number of tiles increases exponentially by zoom level (1-4-16-64-256-1024-...)'.20:11
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sixwheeledbeastah, hi M4rtinK :)20:54
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M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: hi! :)21:00
sixwheeledbeastI have a question about ModRana if that's ok :)21:00
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M4rtinKsure, go ahead :)21:03
sixwheeledbeastM4rtinK: If I have downloaded tiles with modrana on a desktop how can I get the tiles on my N900?21:03
sixwheeledbeastubuntu BTW21:03
M4rtinKjust transfer the appropriate folders to ~/MyDocs/.maps21:03
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M4rtinKon desktop linux the tiles should be in21:04
M4rtinK~/.modrana/maps21:05
M4rtinKand make sure you are downloading to "files"21:05
sixwheeledbeastso I have a OSM folder in .modrana/maps I copy that to /MyDocs/.maps21:06
M4rtinKbasically21:06
M4rtinKjust check the folder structure21:06
sixwheeledbeastI see I was looking in .modrana on the N90021:06
M4rtinKit should be easy to see how it works21:06
M4rtinKthat would place it in internal storage, which would be an issue :)21:07
M4rtinKbut there would be less problems with many small files due to a better FS21:07
sixwheeledbeastYep I understand. I didn't realise the .maps folder was for modrana21:08
M4rtinKBTW, you can set the path where the tiles should go in the ~/.modrana/user_config.conf file21:08
M4rtinKwell, it is a kind of de-facto standard on Maemo21:08
sixwheeledbeastcan you do that with the GUI too?21:08
M4rtinKI think Maemo Mapper/Mappero or Maep might be the first one using it21:08
M4rtinKnot at the moment21:09
M4rtinKbut I guess it could be a RFE :)21:09
M4rtinKBTW, you can also import the tiles to your sqlite tile database21:09
M4rtinKif you are using that to store tiles on your N900: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN21:09
sixwheeledbeastimport? I have both desktop and N900 set to sqlite.21:10
M4rtinKwell, then you have a problem :)21:11
sixwheeledbeastoh21:11
M4rtinKas there is no way to either export or merge two sqlite tile databases21:12
M4rtinKthere are no technical limitations preventing this, but no one did that just yet21:12
M4rtinKeither as modRana functionality or as an external program, like that above mentioned Perl script21:13
M4rtinKbut it is perfectly doable and quite easy to do (hint hint ;-) )21:14
sixwheeledbeastI was hoping to just overwrite the N900's existing db21:15
M4rtinKoh, that works of course21:15
M4rtinKif you replace the database file, there is no issue21:15
M4rtinKyou of course loose any tiles that were in the file on the N90021:16
sixwheeledbeastI still have the odd crash batch downloading tiles with the N900 so I thought I'd DL large amounts with a desktop and copy over.21:16
M4rtinKthe format is just a simple sqlite database, sou there should transfer from PC just fine21:17
sixwheeledbeastgreat I'll try that now21:17
M4rtinKsure, I know many people do that21:17
M4rtinKlet me know if you have any issues :)21:18
M4rtinKand maybe you can write about your experience on the Maemo wiki or somewhere else ? ;-)21:18
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sixwheeledbeastis there a full globe sqlite download somewhere?21:28
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M4rtinKI don't think anyone is hosting modRana compatible datbases anywhere :)21:39
M4rtinKBTW, don't forget to the transfer both the lookup & storage databases21:39
M4rtinK(it is like this to work around the 3.7 GB limit on file size on FAT32, there could be multiple storage databases, each up to 3.7 GB big)21:40
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M4rtinKBTW, this is the "specification": http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteStorageDescriptionEN21:41
bencohby "modrana databases" you mean "tiles" ?21:42
bencohor sqlite tiles storage ?21:42
M4rtinKyeah, I mean the sqlite database modRana uses to store map tiles21:43
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M4rtinKBTW, there is another unrelated sqlite database used to store POI21:43
M4rtinKAFK, back in about an hour21:46
kerioM4rtinK: is there a guiless program to pregenerate a database?21:52
keriopossibly something for recent systems21:53
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sixwheeledbeastI copied lookup and store files all seems to work fine.21:57
sixwheeledbeastI have *-journal files which I haven't copied over.21:59
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M4rtinKsixwheeledbeast: you can safely ignore the journal files23:18
M4rtinKAFAIK they are some temporary files created by sqlite that are sometimes left behind23:18
sixwheeledbeast:) thanks M4rtinK23:18
M4rtinKkerio: how do you mean pregenerate ?23:19
M4rtinKlike create an empty tile database file, just with the schema ?23:19
M4rtinKI guess the already mentioned batch import script could be used for something like that: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN23:20
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