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Ashley`(offtopic) anyone has experience with pirelli dp-l10? :/15:31
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DocScrutinizer05hah16:51
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weueyiwarning19:33
weueyi you may be  watched19:33
weueyido usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??19:33
weueyido usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??19:33
weueyido they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??19:33
weueyiÊÍÐíÑ19:33
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weueyiwarning19:34
weueyi you may be  watched19:34
weueyido usa&israel use the internet(facebook,youtube,twitter, chat rooms ..ect)to spy??19:34
weueyido usa&israel use the internet 2 collect informations,,can we call that spying??19:34
weueyido they record&analyse everything we do on the internet,,can they harm you using these informations??19:34
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sixwheeledbeastdafuq?20:30
jaska...20:31
sixwheeledbeasthmm20:32
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DocScrutinizer51sixwheeledbeast: usual idiot troll, he changed IP so last ban doesn't catch anymore21:09
DocScrutinizer51he didn't change his trolling text, so once I'm back home I will set up an autoresponder ban21:10
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RzR>;(21:15
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sixwheeledbeastyou would think people have better things to do....21:23
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ShadowJKbought new eabuds, AKG21:43
ShadowJKcame with different detacheable cables for both apple-style and nokia-style 4-pin plug :-)21:44
RiDo that's cool, so I guess it has a mic?21:46
ShadowJKi guess21:47
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ShadowJKI mostly bought them for the noise canceling feature21:49
ShadowJKspeaking of...21:49
* ShadowJK switches on the air conditioner21:50
RiDhehe21:50
RiDi got an AKG K45021:50
ShadowJKoh awesome21:50
ShadowJKNice NC21:50
RiDthe N900 drives them very well, but they don't exactly need a lot of power21:50
ShadowJKthough it doesn't fix objects on desk vibrating and falling off21:50
ShadowJKMost in-ears have so high sensitivity and low impedance, that only volume 1 notch above mute is usable21:51
RiDi measured it and it did around 96dB, if the measurement is accurate21:51
ShadowJKthese are better in that regard21:51
RiDvolume at 100%, not 88%21:51
RiDyour air conditioner vibrates objects in your desk?21:52
RiDyou sure that's not an airplane turbine?21:52
ShadowJKit's a cheap "portable" unit, on woodboard floor21:53
ShadowJKSo the piston compressor is vibrating against the floor21:54
M4rtinKI've seen people using such a portable unit inside a shop in a shopping mall :)21:59
M4rtinKI'm sure the ones running the centralized air conditioning for the mall appreciate people doing this :D22:00
DocScrutinizer05lol22:06
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: how are the AKG?22:06
DocScrutinizer05I might want to get them tomorrow, for a silent flight on monday22:07
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DocScrutinizer05btw apple-style=AHJ, Nokia-style==OMTP22:10
DocScrutinizer05http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/issues/572/22:10
DocScrutinizer05or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)#TRRS_Standards22:12
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DocScrutinizer05It canot get mentioned too often that AHJ is mere brainfuck, invented by Apple to "differentiate" and make it maximum cumbersome for 2nd source equipment suppliers to find matching jacks22:21
DocScrutinizer05from an EE perspective, it's the most idiotic thing you could come up with to have the ultra-sensitive microphone input hot wire on *sleeve*22:22
DocScrutinizer05particularly you canot find any plugs with metal hood where the hood is electrically connected to 2nd Ring instead of Sleeve22:24
DocScrutinizer05thus you only can use plugs with plastic hood for AHJ, and even those are not _really_ compatible to AHJ since they have a crimp lug connected to Sleeve and that inevitably crimps to - you guessed it, the name gives it away - to sleeve/shielding-braid of your cable22:27
DocScrutinizer05see the fine photos on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)22:28
DocScrutinizer05http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jack-plug--socket-switch.jpg (6.3mm but all the same, just more obvious), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2-conductor_male_TS_connectors.jpg (same), and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:3.5mm.jpg (example with plastic hood), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Small_jack_plugs.jpg (TRS, no TRRS, but you can see how even the jacks are problematic for AHJ)22:31
* DocScrutinizer05 sometimes dreams of running into the guy who "invented" AHJ, at night on a lonely path through the forest22:35
DocScrutinizer05>:-S22:35
DocScrutinizer05this guy for sure is a disgrace for whole EE community22:37
* DocScrutinizer05 wonders when apple will come up with AAA cells that have + and - swapped22:38
DocScrutinizer05and the pin on the (now) minus side (which everybody would think is plus, like is on other cells) just 0.5mm smaller diameter than usual, so nobody can insert usual classical AAA into an apple device, but everybody could insert apple AAA into any other device and most certainly kill it instantly by doing so22:41
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ecc3gspeaking of alkaline cells, modern alkaline batteries' case/encapsulation is positive and would be cheaper to have the nib on the negative pole... heh22:52
ShadowJKDocScrutinizer51; (akg) they're excellent23:10
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: type?23:11
DocScrutinizer05ecc3g: there's a reason I came up with this ;-)23:12
ShadowJKK391NC23:12
ShadowJKThere's actually an alkaline shape that has sort of larger pin on minus23:13
ShadowJKYou get them in AAs from Asia alot23:13
ShadowJKNever had AKG before, hearing new things in songs that I didn't know where there :D23:14
DocScrutinizer05dang, I want those23:20
DocScrutinizer05I hope I can find them in a local stroe tomorrow23:21
DocScrutinizer05store23:21
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: I can't find the switch to on/off the NC. where is itß23:21
DocScrutinizer05?23:21
ShadowJKOne end of the "box" has permanently attached wire that goes to earplugs, and on/off switch. Other end of box has miniusb and 3.5mm socket23:23
ShadowJKThey supply 2 different 3.5mm plug-plug cables23:23
ShadowJKThis review made me pick the akg over some other I was considering http://www.head-fi.org/t/658308/akg-k391-nc-in-ear-noise-cancelling-headphones-first-impression-review23:24
ShadowJKAs for treble, I disagree a little bit with the review. It's to me, kinda like the Sennheiser treble, with less harshness23:26
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DocScrutinizer05I had AKG K340 - a damn epiphany23:33
ShadowJKin-ear are a bit different from cans, some people don't like in-ear23:34
ShadowJKfor me, the first shitty in-ear I got (Koss), was an epiphany :)23:34
Sicelo<sorry to disturb .. steady amber when charging (device off) means what?>23:35
M4rtinKDocScrutinizer05: it is called Web these days :)23:35
M4rtinKDocScrutinizer05: https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.4/23:35
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo:23:35
DocScrutinizer05~flatbatrecover23:35
infobotRemove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no ~bootloop)!.23:36
DocScrutinizer05M4rtinK: you lost me23:37
Sicelohe meant Epiphany :p23:37
DocScrutinizer05ooh23:37
M4rtinKnot a very good joke attempt I agree :)23:37
Sicelosteady amber going off .. 'going off' meaning coming on? lol.. English can be wonky sometiems23:38
DocScrutinizer05no, it means "steady amber discontinued"23:41
DocScrutinizer05err, I meant that when I wrote that factoid23:41
DocScrutinizer05"going off" actually been an unfortunate wording. Sorry23:42
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, flatbatrecover is <reply>Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no ~bootloop)!.23:43
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay23:44
DocScrutinizer05~flatbatrecover23:44
infobotRemove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no ~bootloop)!.23:44
Sicelothanks :)23:44
DocScrutinizer05yw23:44
DocScrutinizer05thanks for pointing me to the ambiguity23:44
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, flatbatrecover is <reply>Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is23:47
DocScrutinizer05OK (no ~bootloop)!.23:47
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0523:47
DocScrutinizer05damn!23:47
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, flatbatrecover is <reply>Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off -> start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs is OK (no23:47
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay23:48
DocScrutinizer05~bootloop)!.23:48
DocScrutinizer05grr23:48
DocScrutinizer05infobot: no, flatbatrecover is <reply>Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off -> start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs OK (no ~bootloop)23:48
DocScrutinizer05!23:48
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay23:48
DocScrutinizer05~flatbatrecover23:49
infobotRemove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered ***NOKIA WALLCHARGER*** to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber shut off -> start over again with ~flatbatrecover while already searching for a new battery. CAVEAT! Only works when ~rootfs OK (no ~bootloop)23:49
kerioM4rtinK: did they seriously call it Gnome Web23:53
kerionot even /apple/ called its web browser "web browser"23:53
M4rtinKkerio: they do call it Web now :)23:53
kerioare they going to rename "empathy" to "instant messenger"?23:54
M4rtinKkerio: not really sure if anyone is using it, but it looks like they recently added process-per-tab support23:54
M4rtinKwell, who knows :)23:54
keriooh god they renamed totem to Videos23:54
dos1another sign of gnome devs going mad23:58
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