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DocScrutinizer05so the problem would be CANbus02:35
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Gearhas anyone used SHR06:31
DocScrutinizer05yes, dos106:32
DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI06:32
Gearwhat?06:32
DocScrutinizer05do you ask that every day at this time? :-)06:33
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GearI don't think so06:34
DocScrutinizer05[2014-05-27 Tue 05:20:08] <Gear> has anyone here tried SHR?06:34
DocScrutinizer05[2014-05-27 Tue 06:50:20] <DocScrutinizer05> yes, dos106:34
DocScrutinizer05[2014-05-27 Tue 06:51:19] <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkWbb_BetI06:34
Gearthat was a different time06:34
Gear:D06:34
DocScrutinizer05yeah, you're not very precise06:35
Gearalso I left, it seemed like you were talking to dos106:36
Gearthat video doesn't show it making calls or doing any phone stuff06:36
DocScrutinizer05indeed06:36
DocScrutinizer05err, yep. But it does06:37
DocScrutinizer05at least supposed to do06:37
DocScrutinizer05dos1: ^^^06:37
DocScrutinizer05when you're lucky, he will answer in a few hours06:38
DocScrutinizer05said n8 a 2h ago06:39
DocScrutinizer05anywy SHR is supposed to be one of the supported OS for Neo90006:40
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Gearbut also the n900 which is the only phone I have?06:57
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DocScrutinizer05I don't know about current status of phonecall audio07:05
DocScrutinizer05searchword: cmtspeech07:06
DocScrutinizer05a tad tricky07:06
DocScrutinizer05the CPU is master for the audio PCM, but modem sends timing messages to CPU so the actually PCM clock speed stays in sync with the GSM voice datarate07:08
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DocScrutinizer05last time I looked into it was when I helped design the double-headed buffer for that, to plumb the linux land audio clock domain to the modem audio timing07:10
DocScrutinizer05and that's been quite some time ago, dunno the results of that07:11
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Maxdamantus"recalculating pi"?08:18
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blebIf I want audio files copied from my computer to show up in Media Player, where do I copy them on the N900? There's .sounds/ and .video/ but no .music/08:23
MaxdamantusI think you're meant to be able to put them anywhere.08:23
Maxdamantusthen the indexer thing's meant to find them.08:24
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blebhmm well Media Player is showing08:25
blebhmm well Media Player is showing "no songs" after copying some songs and restarting the application08:26
MaxdamantusAh. Look at ~/.config/tracker/tracker.cfg08:28
MaxdamantusThat has the paths it searches in.08:28
blebok thats illuminating... still not working though. Looking at my MyDocs folder via xterm on my N900, I don't see anything (just DCIM). But in /media/Nokia\ N900/ on my computer, there's quite a lot of stuff, including the music I'm trying to load on. Any idea where this descrepency is coming from?08:38
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Maxdamantusbleb: is it still plugged in using USB?08:51
Maxdamantusbleb: only one of the N900 or your computer can use the MyDocs filesystem at a time.08:52
Maxdamantusbleb: when you plug it into USB, the N900 unmounts it from itself so the computer can use it.08:52
* Maxdamantus wonders when there's going to be a proper mainstream general-purpose filesystem suitable for USB.08:54
Maxdamantuswell, when there's going to be one in use.08:54
Maxdamantus(MTP doesn't count)08:55
MaxdamantusYou'd think at least Google would be interested in promoting something.08:56
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ApicA wonderful splendid good Morning (UGT)!09:43
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arvutthe game super tux, as ported to the maemo5 OS, does tux actually say "TUXONICE!" when starting every level?14:09
arvutI just realized that might be what tux is saying14:09
arvutworking on a tuxonice-kernel for my gentoo machine. would be awesome to have a nokia n900 with tuxonice on14:10
arvutcould be possible14:10
chem|starvut: you might be better off in #maemo-ssu14:12
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DocScrutinizer05why #maemo-ssu? this is not exactly CSSU related, no?16:42
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blebMaxdamantus: sorry I left you hanging - had to go to bed. Anyways disconnecting the N900 from the USB port seems to work, allowing me to transfer data/songs to my N900 at last. (I thought I had tried it already but maybe I just unmounted it and didn't physically disconnect my N900). Thanks a lot!18:03
Maxdamantusnp18:03
* Maxdamantus has g_ether always loaded so it doesn't unmount anything.18:04
* Maxdamantus has everything on a single partition anyway.18:05
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Defiantso neo900 has been canceled?18:50
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keriowait what18:57
keriowhy?18:57
ApicWTF?18:59
florianI don't think so...18:59
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federico3huh?19:13
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DefiantI got a mail19:37
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Defiantthey want to refund my money19:38
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kerioperhaps you should read your emails19:46
DefiantI did19:47
DefiantThe orders Golden Delicious Computers (GDC) has received have to19:47
Defiantbe "rolled back". Since the "roll back" voids your agreement with GDC,19:47
Defiantall those who sent 100 EUR or more get a refund.19:47
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bef0rdDefiant: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9319719:57
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thedead1440so another stick to beat Doc with? the F/OSS community certainly seems to have a self-destruct button ready for every small disagreement in viewpoints; see fk_lx vs jolla for another ongoing "mountain out of molehill"19:59
Defiantsorry I don't get it, the mail speaks only about refund20:00
bef0rdhttp://neo900.org/news-0011-progress-update-may20:04
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ant_hi20:49
ant_any1 online?20:50
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freemangordon~ask20:51
infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.20:51
honestlymy n900 only charges when it's connected to a computer, not from a power only usb connection. is that normal / can it be fixed?20:51
freemangordonhonestly: what is "power only usb connection"?20:52
honestlyusb power adapters20:52
honestlylike the wall wart that comes with most android phones20:53
ant_i've restored rootfs and optfs from pwnphone backups, also installed it correctly (not from the mmc tho). I've created a symlink /media/mmc1/pwnimage -> /home/user/MyDocs/pwnimage. That was my error. Now the phone wont boot up, ir rebbots on Nokia screen constantly. Do I have to reflash the phone?20:53
ant_boot menu wont start also20:54
freemangordonhonestly: two possible things - either d+/d- are not shortened or n900 tries to draw more current than the charger can provide20:54
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freemangordonso overcurrent protection cicks in20:54
freemangordon*kicks20:54
honestlythis one is rated 2A20:54
honestlyand it has never worked on anything i tried20:55
honestlyi guess i should try taking a usb cable and shorting those pins?20:55
ant_the phone also tries to boot up after connecting to any power source. but it fails every time.20:55
freemangordonant_: what kernel is supposed that "pwnphone backups" to boot?20:56
honestly(do you mean shortcircuiting when you say shortening?)20:56
freemangordonhonestly: did you try with Nokia ac100 adapter?20:56
ant_that might be it. I have installed powerkernel before installing pwnphone. Althought I believe it installs it owns kernel with packet injection etc.20:57
honestlyi don't have a nokia adapter20:57
honestlyso no.20:57
freemangordonant_: but what kernel is flashed? does it have the needed modules in the rootfs you've restored?20:57
ant_How should I check it If Iam not able to do anything with the phone?20:58
freemangordonhonestly: you'd better find some original nokia charger20:59
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honestlyfreemangordon: i need a car charger, when i have mains power i also have a running computer to plug it into (:21:00
freemangordonant_: I guess you can somehow mount the rootfs image and check what is in /lib/modules. and flash the appropriate kernel with flasher3.521:00
honestlyare there chargers from nokia for that?21:00
freemangordonyes21:00
freemangordonac35??? lemme check21:00
ant_freemangordon: I can only see whats in the package I have on my hdd. I cant mount the n900 anyhow (or please tell me how)21:02
honestlythanks, i'll find it myself whenever i'm back from this vacation :D21:02
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ecc3ghaving a good cable and supply is paramount... so many bad cables around...21:03
honestly"good cable"?21:03
ecc3gI had like 4 different microusb cables that simply doesn't charge quickly... and found three or four that will charge at high rate to the same USB port21:04
honestlyokay21:04
freemangordonant_:21:05
freemangordon~rescueos21:05
infobotrumour has it, rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/21:05
freemangordonant_: you can mount rootfs within it21:06
ecc3gthose $1 store wall plug to USB adaptors are miserable.  The $1 store car chargers work fine however.21:06
freemangordonecc3g: they provide 1200+ mA?21:07
honestlyyeah i think i'll build myself an adapter with shorted pins21:07
honestly19:54:46 < honestly> this one is rated 2A21:07
honestly(:21:07
ecc3gI think if it will supply at least 700mA, I'm happy... and they do...21:07
ecc3gthe trouble are the ones that can't even do 500mA21:08
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honestlywell it's just a direct connection to the car's 12V bus, with a fuse or two inbetween if you're lucky.21:08
ecc3galso what's printed is nowhere near what it actually provides...21:08
honestlyand a step-down converter.21:08
ant_ok so should i rip the im on the pendrive/cd and boot whole machine from the image?21:08
ant_img*21:09
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ant_ok the documentation says everything I hope21:09
ant_thanks21:09
honestlythere aren't many ways to do that wrong unless you use a really bad voltage converter21:09
freemangordonant_: no, you just boot rescueos with flsher21:10
ecc3gI have exactly one wall wart that charges my n900 at high speed. ANd it's not even my AC10C21:10
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honestlythat said i'd love to pull this thing apart, look at the circuit, and maybe look up the specs of the converter21:11
freemangordonecc3g: 700 mA is simply not enough, n900 easily jumps above 1A while charging21:11
freemangordonwhile being used ofc21:12
ecc3g700mA is good enough to maintain charging.  As long as you're not using it at the same time21:12
freemangordonyeah21:12
freemangordonhmm, wait21:12
freemangordonfastcharge is ~800 mA IIRC21:13
honestlythere's no reason to stop charging if the charge current is small, unless of course the charge current is less than the phone draws.21:13
ecc3git's close enough.21:13
bef0rdI think the official charger is 1A21:13
freemangordon1.2A21:13
ant_any trusted sites for newest flasher for mac os then?21:13
honestlyand my usb port is loose ):21:13
ecc3gthe official charger is 1.2A.  My "official" charger won't do more than 400mA or so... it's broken.21:14
ant_http://maemo.org/news/announcements/maemo_flasher-3-5_tool_beta_for_fremantle_and_diablo_released/ this?21:14
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ant_does not work21:14
bef0rdI had issues trying to flash with OSX ant_, can't remember if I was flashing n9/n900, had better luck with the windows/linux flasher21:15
ant_ill try with windows when I get home then. thank you all21:15
freemangordonant_: try to google for the flasher21:17
freemangordon~flasher21:17
infobot[flasher] at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/21:17
ant_yeah sure running utrusted execs is ro really cool21:19
ant_dont ever do that. but thanks :-)21:20
bef0rdthere are mirrors for the flasher, you can check md5sums21:21
bef0rdbut when I tried it on a recent OSX it didn't work21:21
freemangordonant_: as bef0rd said - you can check md5 sums21:23
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bef0rdant_: http://blog.omgmog.net/post/factory-reset-nokia-n900-from-a-mac/21:25
ant_I've seen it, have mavericks thought :-)21:25
ant_thats the page where I have found #mameo info :-)21:26
ant_just didnt know thats the only way, I thought its possible to boot with some special key or smth21:26
ant_i will try in 2-3h bbl :-) thanks again21:29
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bef0rdsure21:35
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ecc3gtrouble with maemo, there is no company behind it anymore... have to trust community...21:48
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freemangordonecc3g: isn't it better?21:52
ant_haha macos may have problems with converting hfs to ext21:57
ant_ok so reinstalling rootfs from flasher is not a problem right?21:58
freemangordonsure21:59
freemangordonor rather "flashing"21:59
ant_yeah ok21:59
ant_my archive might be corrupted21:59
freemangordonant_: oh, you were afraid your device is bricked?21:59
ant_but the boot menu said it was completed succesfully22:00
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freemangordonant_: there is no way to brick n900 given the USB port is intact22:00
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ant_more like I was pissed of I will miss some time till I finish ;/22:00
ant_loose*22:01
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ant_/wi/window 822:33
ant_whops22:33
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