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blebJust got a new N900. Trying to install BlessN900. The fcam-drivers package won't install, probably because it is compiled for a kernel different from mine. Can I figure out my kernel version then install a specific version of the fcam-drivers package to match my kernel?01:33
RiDnew or 2nd hand?01:37
RiDyou probably don't have kernel power, that might be needed01:37
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blebI have root access but is that not kernel power?01:39
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blebwell I figured it out. it was a matter of saving the fcam-driver .deb file, and running dpkg --install. probably not the safest practice but it works!02:17
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niterowhat is maemo02:47
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niterooh, a distro?02:49
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niterobut it has mandatory propietery components?02:54
niteroproprietary *02:54
nox-it run on (now) old nokia smartphones/tablets02:58
nox-i.e. was made before ms took over nokia...02:59
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troulouliou_devok my n900 is officialy dying now ;(13:22
troulouliou_devwon't charge anymore13:22
troulouliou_devguess the game is off for me13:22
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federico3any hope for the future of maemo?15:39
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federico3the neo900 will run maemo? Good. Any other project that might want to keep maemo alive?15:44
ShadowJKthe idea is to port fremantle to neo90015:53
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zGrrmoin :)16:11
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infobotsomebody said fptf was the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see
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brianfergushi i ned to resolder the usb plug on the n900 bioard; i have removed the mobo; can i safely remove the small card with the sd card slot on it ?20:11
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DocScrutinizer05yes, it's attached by doublesided sticky tape20:14
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DocScrutinizer05you know20:14
infobothmm... usbfix is - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or, or you will basically need two irons20:14
ShadowJKWas it the cable that's extremely fragile?20:14
DocScrutinizer05no, this cable is a bit less fragile, but breaking it is a total loss of mobo20:15
DocScrutinizer05nevertheless yes, you should be careful with the flex cable between main and daughter board20:15
DocScrutinizer05brianfergus: you might want to try and keep the ds sticky intact20:16
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DocScrutinizer05or completely remove it prior to reassembly. It's not really mandatory but helps. You could create a new frame of sticky tape when old one breaks, but that's a tedious job20:17
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, ok so not removing the sd  subcard is better ?20:17
DocScrutinizer05brianfergus: no, you defintely should remove it to reach the USB20:18
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DocScrutinizer05carefully pry it off at 'inner' end (opposite of cable)20:18
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brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, ok the resistance is just a double tape then20:19
brianfergusi can slightly pry20:20
DocScrutinizer05 yes20:20
brianfergusadn then just leave it attache by the cable20:20
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brianfergusand then put back with a small double tape too20:20
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, ok thanks20:20
DocScrutinizer05the rubber frame and ds-sticky attached to the main board in this one, and I placed some alu foil on top to protect it20:21
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, nice thanks; i was always looking for alt phone ;(20:22
DocScrutinizer05(sorry for all the dirt, N900 cam boosts the smallest dust to look like terrible gue)20:22
DocScrutinizer05don't forget to protect camera lens with some scotch tape or whatever, so you don't ruin it by soldering iron!20:23
DocScrutinizer05also don't bend the flex cable into opposite direction!20:24
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, there is 2 pin on the left side i see unsildered here20:24
brianfergusit the same ground no ?20:24
DocScrutinizer05plse rephrase20:24
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, the usb plu has 2 pin on the left side ; i guess this is the ground20:25
brianfergusi can short cut both together ?20:25
brianferguslike here :
DocScrutinizer05no, all 5 pins are different signals, none of them may get shorted to any other20:26
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, but those big ones located on both sides20:27
DocScrutinizer05do NOT do this Stuff/USB Fix/DSCN2093.png20:27
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, all are grounded no ?20:27
DocScrutinizer05they are basically only mech support, not electrical20:28
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, ok i hope that soldering thise only will get me back all needed contact20:28
brianfergusit is not completly unsoldered20:28
DocScrutinizer05the electrical contacts are on backside of receptacle20:28
brianfergusif i push on one side i can charge20:29
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, ok figured out thanks20:29
brianfergushope not to lost the phone ;(20:29
DocScrutinizer05you should try to resolder those, but only when you can makes sure you're not shorting one to the other by trying to resolder them20:29
DocScrutinizer05((do NOT do this)) bend daughter board to backside20:30
DocScrutinizer05it is prone to damage the flex cable20:30
DocScrutinizer05probably a pretty good plan would be to apply proper SMT flux to the backside 5 "wires" and solder pads, then use hot air to heat up locally in the gap between the USB and the steel can until solder reflows20:33
brianfergusDocScrutinizer05, yeah thanks trying that20:33
DocScrutinizer05*afer* you properly soldered down to the PCB all the 4 mech posts at both sides of the USB20:34
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DocScrutinizer05push down the USB to the PCB while solder on those mech posts is liquid and cooling/curing20:35
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brianferguslooks like most os us go through this :)20:35
DocScrutinizer05you need a rather "strong" and "heavy" soldering iron for those mech posts to solder them. Like maybe a 60W iron20:35
DocScrutinizer05the PCB sucks away much of the heat, a weak small iron can't do that20:36
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DocScrutinizer05((looks like most os us go through this)) sooner or later, yeah. I been one of the lucky 7 who didn't yet, despite using 2 or sometimes 3 of N900 concurrently20:40
DocScrutinizer05brianfergus: goo luck!20:40
DocScrutinizer05brianfergus: good luck! :-D20:40
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DocScrutinizer05actually with original USB receptacle component it's impossible to even inspect the 5 electrical pins/solderpoints, unless you use your dremel to carefully cut away the steel "roof" that covers them20:42
DocScrutinizer05< Stuff/USB Fix/DSCN2067.png> shows the problem20:44
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DocScrutinizer05refer to http: // jpeg to get an idea what the pads look like and where they are, which size, and so on20:48
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DocScrutinizer05maybe more convenient:
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DocScrutinizer05  is marking in red the area you shall scratch off the green varnish so shiny copper gets exposed to do proper strudy solder joints fixin the USB20:56
DocScrutinizer05then make sure your solder blobs are not too think so they would "collide" with plastic case parts20:57
DocScrutinizer05worst case carefully file off plastic and/or solder until everything fits20:58
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