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| bleb | Just got a new N900. Trying to install BlessN900. The fcam-drivers package won't install, probably because it is compiled for a kernel different from mine. Can I figure out my kernel version then install a specific version of the fcam-drivers package to match my kernel? | 01:33 |
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| RiD | new or 2nd hand? | 01:37 |
| RiD | you probably don't have kernel power, that might be needed | 01:37 |
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| bleb | new. | 01:39 |
| bleb | I have root access but is that not kernel power? | 01:39 |
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| bleb | well I figured it out. it was a matter of saving the fcam-driver .deb file, and running dpkg --install. probably not the safest practice but it works! | 02:17 |
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| nitero | what is maemo | 02:47 |
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| nitero | oh, a distro? | 02:49 |
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| nitero | but it has mandatory propietery components? | 02:54 |
| nitero | proprietary * | 02:54 |
| nox- | it run on (now) old nokia smartphones/tablets | 02:58 |
| nox- | i.e. was made before ms took over nokia... | 02:59 |
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| troulouliou_dev | ok my n900 is officialy dying now ;( | 13:22 |
| troulouliou_dev | won't charge anymore | 13:22 |
| troulouliou_dev | guess the game is off for me | 13:22 |
| silviof | :-( | 13:23 |
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| federico3 | sigh | 15:38 |
| federico3 | any hope for the future of maemo? | 15:39 |
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| silviof | neo900? | 15:42 |
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| federico3 | the neo900 will run maemo? Good. Any other project that might want to keep maemo alive? | 15:44 |
| ShadowJK | the idea is to port fremantle to neo900 | 15:53 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 16:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fptf | 17:25 |
| infobot | somebody said fptf was the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 | 17:25 |
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| brianfergus | hi i ned to resolder the usb plug on the n900 bioard; i have removed the mobo; can i safely remove the small card with the sd card slot on it ? | 20:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's attached by doublesided sticky tape | 20:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you know | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix | 20:14 |
| infobot | hmm... usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861, or you will basically need two irons | 20:14 |
| ShadowJK | Was it the cable that's extremely fragile? | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, this cable is a bit less fragile, but breaking it is a total loss of mobo | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless yes, you should be careful with the flex cable between main and daughter board | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brianfergus: you might want to try and keep the ds sticky intact | 20:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or completely remove it prior to reassembly. It's not really mandatory but helps. You could create a new frame of sticky tape when old one breaks, but that's a tedious job | 20:17 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, ok so not removing the sd subcard is better ? | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brianfergus: no, you defintely should remove it to reach the USB | 20:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | carefully pry it off at 'inner' end (opposite of cable) | 20:18 |
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| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, ok the resistance is just a double tape then | 20:19 |
| brianfergus | i can slightly pry | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 20:20 |
| brianfergus | adn then just leave it attache by the cable | 20:20 |
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| brianfergus | solder | 20:20 |
| brianfergus | and then put back with a small double tape too | 20:20 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, ok thanks | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20140516_001.jpg | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the rubber frame and ds-sticky attached to the main board in this one, and I placed some alu foil on top to protect it | 20:21 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, nice thanks; i was always looking for alt phone ;( | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (sorry for all the dirt, N900 cam boosts the smallest dust to look like terrible gue) | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't forget to protect camera lens with some scotch tape or whatever, so you don't ruin it by soldering iron! | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also don't bend the flex cable into opposite direction! | 20:24 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, there is 2 pin on the left side i see unsildered here | 20:24 |
| brianfergus | it the same ground no ? | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plse rephrase | 20:24 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, the usb plu has 2 pin on the left side ; i guess this is the ground | 20:25 |
| brianfergus | i can short cut both together ? | 20:25 |
| brianfergus | like here : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, all 5 pins are different signals, none of them may get shorted to any other | 20:26 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, but those big ones located on both sides | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do NOT do this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29047266/N900 Stuff/USB Fix/DSCN2093.png | 20:27 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, all are grounded no ? | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they are basically only mech support, not electrical | 20:28 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, ok i hope that soldering thise only will get me back all needed contact | 20:28 |
| brianfergus | it is not completly unsoldered | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the electrical contacts are on backside of receptacle | 20:28 |
| brianfergus | if i push on one side i can charge | 20:29 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, ok figured out thanks | 20:29 |
| brianfergus | hope not to lost the phone ;( | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should try to resolder those, but only when you can makes sure you're not shorting one to the other by trying to resolder them | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((do NOT do this)) bend daughter board to backside | 20:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it is prone to damage the flex cable | 20:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably a pretty good plan would be to apply proper SMT flux to the backside 5 "wires" and solder pads, then use hot air to heat up locally in the gap between the USB and the steel can until solder reflows | 20:33 |
| brianfergus | DocScrutinizer05, yeah thanks trying that | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *afer* you properly soldered down to the PCB all the 4 mech posts at both sides of the USB | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *after* | 20:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | push down the USB to the PCB while solder on those mech posts is liquid and cooling/curing | 20:35 |
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| brianfergus | looks like most os us go through this :) | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need a rather "strong" and "heavy" soldering iron for those mech posts to solder them. Like maybe a 60W iron | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the PCB sucks away much of the heat, a weak small iron can't do that | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL2862BF3631A5C1AA&feature=player_detailpage&v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1861 | 20:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((looks like most os us go through this)) sooner or later, yeah. I been one of the lucky 7 who didn't yet, despite using 2 or sometimes 3 of N900 concurrently | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brianfergus: goo luck! | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | brianfergus: good luck! :-D | 20:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually with original USB receptacle component it's impossible to even inspect the 5 electrical pins/solderpoints, unless you use your dremel to carefully cut away the steel "roof" that covers them | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/29047266/N900 Stuff/USB Fix/DSCN2067.png> shows the problem | 20:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | refer to http: // maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/platine_02. jpeg to get an idea what the pads look like and where they are, which size, and so on | 20:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe more convenient: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/16/plasma-desktopP31889.png | 20:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/16/plasma-desktopu31889.png is marking in red the area you shall scratch off the green varnish so shiny copper gets exposed to do proper strudy solder joints fixin the USB | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then make sure your solder blobs are not too think so they would "collide" with plastic case parts | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worst case carefully file off plastic and/or solder until everything fits | 20:58 |
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