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blebJust got my N900! I'm trying to figure out the local IP address (so I can ssh in), and netstat -t is giving me an error - "no kernel support for AF INET6 (tcp)" - is there an easy fix for this? I have never installed/upgraded a kernel let alone on a mobile device. Is there another way of getting the local IP address?07:06
bef0rdI think there is a built-in way to see the local ip07:07
bef0rdcan't remember exactly07:07
bef0rdcheck in the settings stuff for networking07:07
bef0rdalso I think the mad developer app shows the ip and a password to ssh as developer account https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZNTDYvCvtE07:09
bef0rdbleb: ifconfig doesn't work?07:10
bef0rdyou might need to run it as /sbin/ifconfig07:10
blebah /sbin/ifconfig has it07:11
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blebI'm in!07:20
blebthanks person07:20
bef0rdno problemo07:20
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wizbitwhy do the blue keys on a n900 show different characters in the SMS app?13:04
wizbitthey show the next character along13:04
wizbitie. ?  works if i press the the blue key and the up arrow13:05
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zGrrmoin :)15:22
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DocScrutinizer05timeless: ping17:06
DocScrutinizer05timeless: mxr been yours?17:06
DocScrutinizer05it's down :ยด(17:07
DocScrutinizer05wizbit: huh?17:10
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wizbitDocScrutinizer05: hi dude17:14
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wizbitDocScrutinizer05: they keymap on the SMS app uses incorrect blue characters, ie, stuff like: !? etc17:15
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DocScrutinizer05never heard of this17:15
DocScrutinizer05and I for the life of mine couldn't think how this could happen. i mean, the input device stays the same since sms is an X11 app as well17:16
DocScrutinizer05aiui17:16
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timelessDocScrutinizer05: i think that's dns17:42
DocScrutinizer05ooh17:43
DocScrutinizer05that would mean it's easy to 'fix'?17:43
DocScrutinizer05do you have an IP?17:43
DocScrutinizer05sure, Nokia for sure messed up or let bitrot the mxr.maemo.org DNS17:43
timelessdig timeless.justdave.net17:43
timelessif you add its ip address as mxr.maemo.org, it will serve the correct content17:44
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timelessi don't have the energy to chase down whomever owns the nokia side17:44
DocScrutinizer05hmm http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/17:44
timelessyeah, that will work too, but it isn't technically the same frontend17:45
DocScrutinizer05ooh, vhost17:45
timelessthe mxr scripts decide for themselves which content to serve17:45
timelesswhich isn't quite a traditional vhost17:45
DocScrutinizer05:nod:17:45
DocScrutinizer05anyway, how should we proceed?17:46
DocScrutinizer05I'd like to get a backup or mirror or hot-standby or whatever on maemo's infra17:46
DocScrutinizer05and of course we need to solve the DNS issue17:46
DocScrutinizer05*somehow*17:46
timelessfigure out who manages the dns17:47
DocScrutinizer05timeless: I gather that's your box where mxr is running (well, obviously it is).17:48
timelessif they delegate to dreamhost, we can stop playing this game17:48
DocScrutinizer05Nokia dnsmaster :-/17:48
timelesstechnically it's justdave's box.. but roughly i have sufficient access and am allowed to do stuff w/ it17:48
timelessyeah, as i said, i'm not chasing nokia17:48
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DocScrutinizer05we can't manage any of the *.maemo.org domains17:48
DocScrutinizer05could we do a full rsync to maemo.org infra?17:49
timelessit could be arranged, yeah17:49
* timeless shrugs17:49
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timelessi'd have to pull out ssh keys from somewhere :)17:49
DocScrutinizer05our sysops will negotiate that with you17:49
timelessalright17:50
DocScrutinizer05warfare: ^^^^17:50
timelesswhat they could do instead is just run a proxy17:50
timelessit'd be a pretty simple nginx proxy :)17:50
DocScrutinizer05great idea too, for the service. Not though for the backup (mxr scripts)17:50
timelesshave it just request the same thing from <dig @timeless.justdave.net> w/ host: mxr.maemo.org :)17:51
DocScrutinizer05:nod:17:51
timelessthose are technically in vcs and could be cloned17:51
* DocScrutinizer05 wonders why xes not around17:51
timelessiirc hg clone http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/ should work17:51
timelesshrm, nope :)17:51
* timeless wonders where it's hiding17:52
timelesswell, it's theoretically there, i just don't quite remember how to convince it to come out :)17:52
DocScrutinizer05xes is "online" but can't join this chan17:53
DocScrutinizer05he's reading though17:53
timelesstry hg clone http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/source/17:53
timelessyeah, that'll work :)17:53
DocScrutinizer05timeless: (for the background: warfare and xes are our sysops)17:53
* timeless nods17:54
timelessanyway, that clone should succeed (eventually)17:54
timelessthere should be a readme and some files which sort of explain how things work17:54
DocScrutinizer05great! I hope xes will /query you and negotiate all remaining details17:56
DocScrutinizer05please the two of you stay in touch, it would be a pity to lose mxr17:56
* timeless ponders17:59
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: irrelevant, qt apps are also x11 apps but the keyboard layout is fucked regardless18:00
keriore:kbd layouts18:00
DocScrutinizer05kerio: I know18:01
DocScrutinizer05but iirc sms/messaging isn't a qt app18:01
kerioyeah, it's... gtk+gecko?18:01
DocScrutinizer05:nod: prolly18:01
DocScrutinizer05xes, timeless: thanks guys!18:04
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vi__hello18:37
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freemangordonvi__: hi!!!18:44
freemangordonlong time no see18:44
vi__yeah, busy life kills my fun time now.18:45
freemangordon:(18:45
vi__what is better a job or haxxing all day?18:45
vi__you might know...18:46
freemangordona balance in between :)18:46
vi__a job that involves haxxing all day?18:46
freemangordonthough, lately I fail to acheve it18:46
freemangordonyeah18:46
freemangordonesp if it is ell-paid ;)18:47
freemangordon*well18:47
vi__Do you know if there was any program for n900 for gathering data for opencellid database?18:47
freemangordonno idea, sorry18:48
vi__I am setting up 2 of my n900.  One is a home server, running stuff from debian chroot.18:48
vi__the other is a carputer.18:49
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vi__I have managed to get tunneling over dns to work to the n900.18:51
bencohiodine works well on n900 :)18:51
vi__which is nice.18:51
bencohdefinitely18:51
vi__i am using the n900 as the iodined18:51
vi__from squeezy chroot.18:52
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DocScrutinizer05timeless: how comes mxr-maemo-org-dns-0.1/DEBIAN/postinst has the right IP since 2008 and the DNS managed by Nokia points to a bogus IP?19:01
timelessheh19:02
timeless2008 seems a bit early19:02
timelessbut ...19:02
timelessno, it isn't the right ip19:03
timelessthe right ip is 66.33.208.8619:03
timelessthat has 66.33.212.25419:03
timelessroughly the first two bits being constant are because it has always lived in dreamhost19:04
timelesson the bright side, it's easy to fix that file to the current ip address :)19:06
DocScrutinizer05oooh19:07
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timelessyou could even have the thing automatically pick the value from timeless.justdave.net :)19:07
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DocScrutinizer05sure, I know19:11
DocScrutinizer05we rather fix that on a "global" level ;-)19:12
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