IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2014-04-19

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DocScrutinizer05repos no, prolly not. But for cmdline programs you often get away with downloading the .deb pkg and installing it via dpkg -i00:15
DocScrutinizer05given the architecture fits ;-D00:15
DocScrutinizer05you hardly can install ubuntu-x86 packages on a ARM hardware, obviously00:16
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ori553I get it00:47
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ori553Once I download the .deb pkg, what exactly should I type if i'm in the same folder of the downloaded file?00:49
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DocScrutinizer05dpkg -i <da file name>00:50
DocScrutinizer05iirc00:50
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DocScrutinizer05or - even smarter - dpkg --help00:52
DocScrutinizer05;-)00:52
DocScrutinizer05of course after gaining root (cmd 'root' is smarter and shorter than cmd 'sudo gainroot')00:53
DocScrutinizer05--help is the best multi-character sequence of keystrokes you can possibly find in whole linux00:54
DocScrutinizer05the smartest single "char" keystroke is <TAB>00:55
DocScrutinizer05at least in a decent shell00:55
DocScrutinizer05and only when your distro maintainer wasn't lazy with configuring the completion-rules00:57
DocScrutinizer05proper completion configs even know about allowed parameters to commands00:58
DocScrutinizer05most commands00:58
DocScrutinizer05almost as smart as the visualstudio sourcecode editor00:59
DocScrutinizer05;-P00:59
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ori553thanks01:17
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merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: visualstudio sourcecode editor is far more advanced (if you're on ultimate) than anything, but then again moneyz :/ :D01:39
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DocScrutinizer05:-)02:00
DocScrutinizer05I didn't touch it since ~14 years02:00
DocScrutinizer05so yep, it might have improved since then02:01
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Siceloso i have just found that i can apply for a free 'unrestricted apn' from my operator, which allows incoming connections13:55
Sicelonoy sure if i should go for it or not :-/13:55
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Siceloi do have iptables running, allowing onlyincoming ssh traffic. ping is blocked13:59
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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: inbound traffic *always* makes moden answer on layer1 with an ACK (or NAK) aiui. Which means somebody cna keep your TX busy even with hammering on the door of closed ports19:46
Sicelothat's what has stopped me applying for now19:47
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DocScrutinizer05you seriously want to consider if you wanna do this19:47
DocScrutinizer05ideally your carrier allows you to configure the carrier-site NAT remotely, e.g. via uPnP19:48
DocScrutinizer05then it's up to you and your apps to define which inbound traffic is welcome and which shall bounce at NAT already19:49
Sicelonope. they just open up everything19:50
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DocScrutinizer05yeah, I duno of any carrier that offers this service. Unless you become your own carrier ;-), resp POP19:52
DocScrutinizer05VPN to your own server19:52
DocScrutinizer05NAT on server19:52
Siceloanyway, i guess i'll let go of the offer for now19:53
DocScrutinizer05sorry?19:53
DocScrutinizer05go for?19:53
DocScrutinizer05aah let go19:54
DocScrutinizer05yeah, prolly best19:54
DocScrutinizer05though, you can change APNs as you like, unless it's an either-or offer19:54
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DocScrutinizer05I still have to wrap my head around what frals did for fmms alternative APNs19:55
DocScrutinizer05iirc usually a modem offers up to 4 concurrent/alternative AP configs, and you simply switch between them19:56
DocScrutinizer05I bet ISI doesn't support that, or at least libisi doesn't19:56
DocScrutinizer05so I wonder if fmms actually reconfigures the modem each time it needs to access a MMS, and beck to default after it's done19:57
DocScrutinizer05back even19:57
Sicelowhich reminds me to check progress on http://elinux.org/N90019:57
DocScrutinizer05whicj reminds me I planned to have a walk in the big bluebox ~3h ago19:58
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Tekk_is there some way to select multiple messages in the mail app?21:56
Tekk_having to delete each individual message is a massive pain21:57
freemangordonTekk_: ctrl-A22:00
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freemangordonand then start typing to filter22:01
Tekk_hm22:01
Tekk_I tried ctrl+a before and it didn't work22:01
Tekk_just tried again(and ctrl+A), still nothing :/22:02
Tekk_looks like my inbox is refreshing though, I'll try again once that's finished22:02
freemangordonit works (ctrl-A)22:04
freemangordon:)22:04
freemangordonoh, wait22:04
freemangordonyou should first select what you want to do (delete, move, etc)22:04
Tekk_ah22:04
freemangordonand then ctrl-A22:05
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Tekk_thanks freemangordon22:12
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freemangordonnp22:15
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DocScrutinizer05of course deliting the whole damn database file was an alternative way23:55
DocScrutinizer05deleting*23:55
DocScrutinizer05ooh, mail, sorry23:56
Tekk_DocScrutinizer: yes, but deleting the mail db would work as well :)23:56
DocScrutinizer05NFC about modest and its db's and whatnot23:56
DocScrutinizer05all I know is: mail body isn't stored in a db, unlike SMS body23:57
DocScrutinizer05afaik23:57
Tekk_ah23:57
DocScrutinizer05in HARM they allegedly changed that, a terrible idea23:57
DocScrutinizer05poor friggin tracker23:58
Tekk_oh, with all of the neo900 stuff are there any plans to improve maemo itself?23:58
Tekk_maybe a new launcher which actually lets you search your apps23:58
Tekk_(as I understand it the current one is proprietary, isn't it?)23:58
DocScrutinizer05errr, dunno, shouldn't be too hatd to write a new one, this is braindead stuff afzer all23:58
DocScrutinizer05errr, dunno, shouldn't be too hard to write a new one, this is braindead stuff after all23:59
Tekk_okay23:59
* Tekk_ is still torn between jolla and neo90023:59

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