IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2014-01-06

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Luke-Jranyone want to help me hack http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/nest-rootfs-ext.tbz2? :P01:19
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DocScrutinizer05damn, geeks listen rattus norwegicus01:27
freemangordonLuke-Jr: what needs to be hacked?01:27
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DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: long time no see01:28
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Luke-Jrfreemangordon: the device only accepts signed firmware upgrades :/01:59
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: not that long! ;)01:59
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: I think you were yelling at me for being a n00b a month or so ago..01:59
DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: EEEEEEK01:59
Luke-Jreeek?01:59
DocScrutinizer05device only accepts signed firmware upgrades02:00
Luke-Jryeah, pain02:00
* DocScrutinizer05 goes vomiting02:00
DocScrutinizer05N9?02:00
Luke-JrI'm gently making legal threats, but that's probably slow and futile :/02:00
DocScrutinizer05or andridiot02:00
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: sorry, I guess I wasn't clear on that: it's a Nest Learning Thermostat02:00
Luke-Jrnot entirely on-topic, but I figured people here would be into rooting stuff02:01
DocScrutinizer05a wut?02:01
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: a thermostat with a nice ARM SoC ;p02:01
Luke-Jrruns Linux and BusyBox02:01
DocScrutinizer05*sigh*02:01
Luke-Jrand has wifi02:01
xesand then whatelse?02:01
Luke-Jrbut besides normal thermostat stuff (adjusting temperature), everything is locked down and remotely controlled by Nest Inc02:02
DocScrutinizer05let's see if I can troll some more lusers in #freenode before they kick me XP02:02
Luke-Jrno clue why people pay $250 for this, but hopefully I can make it a nice home automation controller..02:02
xesplease.... dont't try to hunt a fly with a shotgun... :P02:03
Luke-Jrso anyhow, with upgrades needing signatures, I'm hoping someone with rooting skillz can find a buffer overflow or something :D02:05
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DocScrutinizer05xes: when I fire a shotgun, I won't chase away flies that thing the nozzle is a nice airfield02:06
DocScrutinizer05think*02:06
DocScrutinizer05the one who infested my brain with this thing/think issue: FSCK YOU!02:07
DocScrutinizer05never had that virus befor some 6 months ago02:07
xes:)02:08
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: interested in Nest rooting at all? :P02:09
DocScrutinizer05wtf is Nest?02:15
FIQan overengineered thermostat02:16
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FIQthere's a lot of devices that only accept signed updates02:16
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Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: the thermostat with ARM SoC I posted a rootfs for ;)02:23
DocScrutinizer05well, a thermostat with WLAN - - - what can I say02:23
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: "yes, I'd love to help you find a way to root it"? :P02:24
bef0rdthis is the future02:24
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nox-DocScrutinizer05, a thermostat is nothing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-2470733702:27
DocScrutinizer05nox-: sorry, busy in other channels02:27
nox-:)  ok02:28
Luke-JrDocScrutinizer05: ok, maybe I should rephrase: how much of a bounty would interest you in rooting it? :P02:32
xesLuke-Jr: in the detail, what do you want obtain?02:35
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DocScrutinizer05Luke-Jr: 5 digits02:37
DocScrutinizer05sorry, busy02:37
Ashley`5 digits? 0.0000? :D02:37
DocScrutinizer05with real fun stuff, like neo90002:38
DocScrutinizer05~bash Ashley`02:38
* infobot beats Ashley` with ksh02:38
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Luke-Jrxes: hm? I want to build a kernel and run Gentoo on it. or Debian or something.02:56
Luke-Jrxes: even a shell would probably get me far enough for that, I'm guessing02:57
DocScrutinizer05fun times on freenode. Seems we suffer a weird netsplit since 2h and registering with nickserv has weeks of dealy for gmail (and other) accounts02:59
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solofightwhen i do "sudo gainroot" it never asks me for the root password !07:40
solofighti feel insecure with this mode of operation -- how do i change this ?07:41
solofightin linux usually the terminal offers you limited powers and you have to sudo to gain more powers right !07:44
solofighthow do i make the same way for the xterminal ?07:44
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ApicRe.09:43
solofightok i waited for some time now so il repost09:46
solofightwhen i do "sudo gainroot" it never asks me for the root password !09:46
solofighti feel insecure with this mode of operation -- how do i change this ?09:46
solofightin linux usually the terminal offers you limited powers and you have to sudo to gain more powers right !09:46
solofighthow do i make the same way for the xterminal ?09:46
freemangordon_solofight: what? you are user "user" by default09:47
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freemangordon_solofight: remove "rootsh" package and you are ok with "sudo gainroot"09:48
solofightfreemangordon_: ahh ok09:48
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solofightand is it possible to say that without the root password nobody can install or uninstall or do any setting change in my phone ?09:49
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freemangordonsolofight: it can, via application manager (install/uninstall)09:49
freemangordons/it/he09:49
solofighti tried applock applicaiton but when i open the applicaiton via GUI it waits for some time and goes back to the desktop (no appliaction opens)09:50
freemangordonsolofight: did you read what "applock" does?09:50
freemangordonsolofight: just set a lock code to the device, that way noone can access it wihout entering the code09:51
solofightfreemangordon: yes, my understanding was it locks applications.... so that when a user tries to open the application it will ask for password/code and then unlock the app09:51
solofightfreemangordon: say for example if i give the device to my friend/kids/etc to make a call/to play games .....etc - he cannot mess up with the settings09:52
freemangordonsolofight: iirc, applock is a hack that puts itself in place of the real application. and it has some problems, iirc09:52
solofightfreemangordon: problems like  ?09:52
freemangordonsolofight: can't exactly remember, but there were, search on TMO09:53
freemangordonsolofight: I don;t think there is solution to the "friends/kids" problem, I usually solve that by saying - "be careful" :D09:54
solofight:P09:56
freemangordon solofight: check on #maemo-ssu09:58
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solofighthttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock&hl=en10:27
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solofightDocScrutinizer05: tell me this - there seems to be a lack of mainteners for many *good* applications in maemo.... wont this drive away the user base ?11:32
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solofighti mean - people now a days buy smart phones mainly for the apps which can power the phones and help them in everyday activities11:33
solofightwhats planned for maemo in this area ?11:33
DocScrutinizer05solofight: maemo is FOSS. who might "plan" something for it?11:35
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DocScrutinizer05re sudo gainroot, see11:35
DocScrutinizer05~jrtools11:35
infobot[jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools11:35
solofightDocScrutinizer05: not a single person - i am asking whether is there a roadmap for future of maemo ?11:35
DocScrutinizer05no11:36
solofightDocScrutinizer05: can neo900 run android ?11:36
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solofight!11:36
DocScrutinizer05not really, except for porting it to Neo900 (and thus to other similar and further on maybe not so similar platforms)11:36
DocScrutinizer05sure, why shouldn't neo900 be able to run android?11:37
solofightDocScrutinizer05: is that a yes ?11:37
DocScrutinizer05yes, android can get ported to neo90011:37
DocScrutinizer05see11:38
solofightyou mean neo900 can run it ?11:38
DocScrutinizer05neo900.org11:38
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solofightDocScrutinizer05: i understand that its going to be open code.. it supports shr and freesmart phone os - am just asking whether its compatible with ubuntu or android11:45
solofightandroid mainly - because of their active applicaiton base11:45
DocScrutinizer05ooooh, it would be a *brilliant* idea when somebody would implement that applock-function into hildon's applauncher, based on a new tag in .desktop file: X-MAEMO-APPLOCK or whatever11:45
DocScrutinizer05solofight: how can a hardware be compatible to a software?11:46
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: and asking for the device lock code for the restricted applications?11:47
DocScrutinizer05solofight: Neo900 ships with no software, basically. It's up to community to port whatever OS they want to Neo90011:47
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: well, first approach: yes11:47
freemangordonhmm, makes sense11:48
freemangordonwe could ask arcean if he wants to implement that11:48
solofightDocScrutinizer05: reg Applock ++11:48
solofightDocScrutinizer05: reg H/w dependancy on S/w - i understand that it depends on the drivers lying with the S/w right ?11:48
freemangordonshit, lkml is down :(11:50
freemangordonlkml.org that is11:50
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DocScrutinizer05solofight: we provide all docs/specs/datasheets for developing drivers for Neo900 hardware11:53
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DocScrutinizer05solofight: we also will ship a BoardSupportPackage (BSP) that will come with most or even all drivers for the hw, based on a plain debian system11:54
solofightDocScrutinizer05: just an approximate number on users of n900 ?11:54
DocScrutinizer05solofight: we will NOT provide drivers for android11:54
DocScrutinizer05right now? and active?11:55
DocScrutinizer05(users of n900 that is)11:55
DocScrutinizer05a ~one year ago there been ~30k update downloads11:57
DocScrutinizer05didn't count lately, so might be less (or even more) meanwhile11:57
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: seems yesterday some stuff went south in internet at large. Freenode had a allegedly 12h of continuous netsplit, my box sufered the most massive cracking attack ever, and now lkml... :-S12:07
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merlin1991hm I should go check my logs13:06
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DocScrutinizer051.2MB log summary here13:21
DocScrutinizer05usual carp:13:22
DocScrutinizer05 pam_unix(smtp:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty= ruser= rhost=13:22
DocScrutinizer05 pam_succeed_if(smtp:auth): error retrieving information about user aaron13:22
DocScrutinizer05 pam_unix(smtp:auth): check pass; user unknown13:22
DocScrutinizer05I just wonder how to block that with fail2ban or a netfilter rule13:24
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solofightwhoa any idea how to reset smscon password ?15:08
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sixwheeledbeastsolofight: uninstall all packages then 'rm -rf "/opt/smscon" "/opt/smscon-editor"' then reinstall from scratch.18:41
sixwheeledbeastall packages as in smscon and smscon-editor, obviously ;)18:41
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