IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2014-01-04

ShadowJKquestion is, is the battery protection circuit on high side or low side :-)00:04
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sixwheeledbeastIt's ok I have a copy for myself. Would a mass complaint to nokiasoft actually do anything?00:16
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FIQhaven't N900 reached EOL according to nokia anyway?00:40
FIQ(i.e. end of life, end of support)00:40
FIQthough I wonder if they would be willing to suggest mirrors00:40
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sixwheeledbeastthis isn't about N900. Maemo has been passed over to HiFo.00:49
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infobotmethinks beasttweaks is
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sixwheeledbeastseems this thread got bumped
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r00t|eeepc<DocScrutinizer05> seems he's pretty ignorant about what's electricity and how it works07:21
r00t|eeepcthe battery isn't dangerous, at least compared to the vacuum cleaner... and it shorting the battery to the spring would cause problems, those would have happened already before i noticed the plastic was missing07:22
r00t|eeepcplus i would assume the spring simply has no electric connection to anything07:24
r00t|eeepcplus, if isolation by the plastic was critcal to safety, nokia should have used better glue... AND isolated the spring... else, just sue them into oblivion if it causes damage...07:27
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DocScrutinizer05plus a lot of untenable assumptions10:37
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DocScrutinizer05shall we put "but he jad the right of way" on your epitaph?10:39
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: shall we put "but he had the right of way" on your epitaph?10:39
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DocScrutinizer05what a giant netsplit11:36
DocScrutinizer05more like a net-fractal11:36
infobotSince Wed Jan  1 20:57:14 2014, there have been 0 modifications, 35 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 5 commands.  I have been awake for 2d 12h 40m 4s this session, and currently reference 119218 factoids.  I'm using about 23612 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 521.81/6.67 child 0/011:37
infobot125/125 channels, 3668 users, 2709 unique: #debian/1154, #kde/311, #maemo/180, #gsoc/174, #asterisk/136, #cubieboard/106, #wowuidev/105, #oe/100, #harmattan/94, #wowace/85, #meego/71, #arm-netbook/70, #utah/60, #openmoko/56, #webos-internals/55, #maemo-ssu/55, #openmoko-cdevel/53, #wowhead/51, #bzflag/50, #edev/46, #neo900/38, #curseforge/34, #asterisk-dev/33, #uphpu/27, #slug/26, #gllug/24, #elinux/24, #sc2mapster/20, ##kierra/20, #brlcad/19, ...11:37
DocScrutinizer05why I can't believe that?11:37
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DocScrutinizer05welcome back, gals 'n guys12:21
joerg_maemoand byebye12:22
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DocScrutinizer05>>("Konversation terminated!").<< well, not really12:22
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FIQwhere can I configure user agent of microB?12:30
FIQor any way in general to prevent sites from redirecting me to silly mobile versions unless I go there myself12:31
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FIQuntil just now, I was unaware that shift+space switches from landscape/portrait/landscape in xterm12:46
FIQbut 2 issues12:46
FIQ1: it still writes a space12:46
FIQ2: it completely ignore the fact that I locked orientation, and even ignores the fact that my keyboard is out12:46
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DocScrutinizer05FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P13:00
DocScrutinizer05and I never knew about that, and doubt it somewhat13:00
DocScrutinizer05standard old xterm doesn't do any such stuff13:00
DocScrutinizer05not even CSSU-T7.2 does13:00
DocScrutinizer05I know microB had a "secret" hotkey-combo to allow portrait and text-wrapping13:00
DocScrutinizer05never heard about similar stuff in xterm, it would kinda be silly and mad13:00
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jdolesIs there something which has the function of https, but works via a web of trust?13:51
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SAiFmy xtrem doesnt change orientation14:07
DocScrutinizer05errr, like httpgp?14:07
DocScrutinizer05(xterm orientation) I guess FIQ's short of the battery burned away the mounting of xterm screen, now it dangles and when you press a few keys on kbd it comes completely loose and rotates ;-)14:09
DocScrutinizer05on a less joking note, I probably should check CSSU changelogs to learn if or if not such xterm orientation rotation function came since CSSU-T7.214:14
DocScrutinizer05I'd not be too surprised when somebody thought it would be a cute idea to hardcode a special kbd shortcut into xterm - sth you obviously want to avoid by all means, for a *shell*14:15
DocScrutinizer05all key shortcuts are per default available to map them to arbitrary functions in the shell. *IF* any shortcuts are working on xterm level before even reaching the shell, then they frequently are SHIFT+CTRL+<key>14:18
DocScrutinizer05never something ordinary like shift+space :-o14:18
DocScrutinizer05heck, my xchat uses shift+space for nick completion. I'd expect that to work as well for irssi in a shell in xterm, if I ever were to use irssi14:20
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jdolesHow do I upgrade to a newer CSSU when I clicked on ignore when it was offered? (I didn't but functionally, that's what happened)14:39
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sixwheeledbeast Shift+Space does nothing here. I doubt it should be doing that.14:40
sixwheeledbeastjdoles: in HAM click update. Then if nothing try Refresh14:41
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jdolessixwheeledbeast: thanks14:43
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sixwheeledbeastit will remind you again every 24 hours if you haven't disabled that manually.14:44
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MrPingushift space is defined in xbindkeys if easy debian installed14:47
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r00t^home<DocScrutinizer05> FIQ: how the heck would you press shift-space when kbd is slide-in? ;-P15:11
r00t^homethe slide sensor only detects when the keyboard is 100% out... you can even type on it in portrait mode if you just leave it at 90% (top row is a bit hard to reach)15:11
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DocScrutinizer05r00t^home: and that's a valid usecase and justification for shift-space to rotate xterm?15:34
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iDontanyone else experiencing trouble pushing commits to
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freemangordoniDont: did you try to pull before push?15:56
freemangordongit pull --rebase that is15:56
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iDontI tried recloning the repo from, reapply my commit, and push. Same error.15:58
iDontI'll try with git pull --rebase, one sec15:58
iDontgit pull --rebase: Current branch master is up to date.15:58
freemangordontry to push now15:59
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: you can look into it?15:59
freemangordonI am afraid I can't help there15:59
iDontNope, still MOVE <SHA1> failed15:59
freemangordonPali knows more about how that works15:59
DocScrutinizer05I gather it's not a problem native to vcs VM?16:00
freemangordonmaybe something with the user righst16:00
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: is it NFS mount?16:00
freemangordoniDont: try it once again :D16:02
freemangordoniDont: and pastebin the output16:03
iDont~/.netrc contains the right credentials (just checked by manually logging in to Pushing stills fails with the same error :/16:03
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iDontnew paste:
freemangordonhmm, didn't help16:04
freemangordonanyway, something with your authentication is not OK16:04
DocScrutinizer05damn, doesn't that git stuff have a -DDDD option?16:05
freemangordoniDont: BTW why do you use HTTP, but not ssh?16:05
freemangordonanyway, I need to find something to eat, I'am starving, bbl16:06
DocScrutinizer05HAH! xes on vcs (unrelated)16:06
iDontfreemangordon: no particular reason, git push over http was easy and always worked. I do upload to the autobuilder via ssh though16:06
xeshello guys!16:07
DocScrutinizer05hi xes! :-) how's life?16:07
xesDocScrutinizer05:  rainy? ...not too bad anyway16:07
DocScrutinizer05dang git. Never heard of "debug"16:09
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DocScrutinizer05 /mnt/homedirs_users/i/idont/.ssh/authorized_key2 change date ~2minutes ago16:17
iDontDocScrutinizer05: I don't recall changing it :/. Anyhow, it has been a long time since last git push and I've distro-switched my laptop after the last successful commit16:19
DocScrutinizer05please keep in mind that autorized-key is supposed to get propagated from garage to all other machines, and that can take qute a while (up to eternal, until done manually, when thinks act up)16:19
iDontI'll try git push via ssh with a new keypair later today16:20
DocScrutinizer054SbcVk60b1sIPipsYiqw3L3BuZmGyD/dIwsHlfOsqTh8=  is tail of your ssh key16:20
DocScrutinizer05as of above, since 4min16:20
DocScrutinizer05is it normal that even root can't cd into a rwx------ dir ?? :-o16:22
DocScrutinizer05root@vcs:/mnt/homedirs_groups# ll bus*er16:24
DocScrutinizer05ls: cannot open directory busybox-power: Permission denied16:24
DocScrutinizer05meh, sorry. I need FOOOOOD16:24
xesDocScrutinizer05:  :) in that case everything is possible16:25
DocScrutinizer05xes: could you check the NFS mounts please?16:25
DocScrutinizer05root@vcs:/mnt/homedirs_groups# ll -d bus*er16:26
DocScrutinizer05drwx------ 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jul  5  2011 busybox-power/16:26
xesalready doing it. Anyway, concerning the git troubles i can't find anything usefule in the logs.16:26
iDontThanks for all the help, but I g2g now.  I've created a new keypair and updated my public key at I'll try pushing over ssh (instead of http) later today.16:27
DocScrutinizer05iDont: propagating new key from garage takes ages16:28
DocScrutinizer05may take ages16:28
iDonttomorrow it is, then :)16:28
iDonthmm, well, git push over http should still work. Will check out GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 and GIT_TRACE=1 then16:28
iDont*should still work without correct ssh key16:29
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DocScrutinizer05no idea, I'm a bloody noob regarding git16:30
DocScrutinizer05why the heck I'm +o?16:30
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iDontanyway, thanks for the help, appreciated. Bye!16:31
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xesDocScrutinizer05: i have checked the NFS share. All seems right.    Probably it's be a choice to avoid permission escalatation between servers16:38
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DocScrutinizer05su - wwwdata should do nevertheless ;-P16:40
DocScrutinizer05is my brain already that much on hypoglyc mode?16:41
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r00t^homeDocScrutinizer05: does xterm really do that? has the one responsible been found and taken care of yet?19:45
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ShadowJKMine does nothing on shift-space or whatever it was20:40
freemangordonShadowJK: do you have second HW keyboard set up?20:46
freemangordonthen nothing can happen on shift-space :)20:47
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MrPingufreemangordon: isn't that ctrl + space?21:07
MrPinguI switch keyboard languages with ctrl + space21:07
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DocScrutinizer05  LOL23:02
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HumpelstilzchenDocScrutinizer05: something new to install on the n900?23:08
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DocScrutinizer05rather someting old to uninstall on your regular router23:09
DocScrutinizer05though, seems the exploit-POC is written in python, you could most likely run it on N900 to root quite a list of vulnerable routers23:10
HumpelstilzchenI keep some tools on my n900 to check the security in friendly environments23:10
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DocScrutinizer05or just use telnet ;-)   `telnet 32764`23:11
DocScrutinizer05to at least check23:11
DocScrutinizer05netcat or socat to access23:11
Humpelstilzchenhmpf needs python2.623:15
Humpelstilzchenoh not really, thats python323:16
DocScrutinizer05 (german!)23:16
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Humpelstilzchenwow really ugly23:32
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